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post #661 of 684 (permalink) Old October 22nd, 2015, 13:39
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Well not too many details are out but it seems more accidental than a case of cheating which might spare him a long ban. Dinamo say he was tested six times in the past and had no issues. They are blaming it on some injection he got from a private doctor
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post #662 of 684 (permalink) Old October 23rd, 2015, 17:47
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actually today Zoran Mamic says its probably something the Macedonian team doctors gave him
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Squad vs Montenegro & Lebanon

Angelovski has named a 16-man squad for the friendlies vs Montenegro and Lebanon, both to be played in Skopje

Goalkeepers
Stole Dimitrievski - Granada B (Spain)
Marko Jovanovski Shkėndija (Macedonia)

Defenders
Stefan Ristovski - Rijeka (Croatia)
Vladica Brdarovski - Vardar (Macedonia)
Vanche Shikov - Austria Wien (Austria)
Daniel Mojsov - Adana Demirspor (Turkey)
Leonard Zuta - Rijeka (Croatia)

Midfielders
Milovan Petrovic - Rabotnichki (Macedonia)
Nikola Gligorov - Vardar (Macedonia)
Ostoja Stjepanovic - OFK Beograd (Serbia)
Agim Ibraimi - Maribor (Slovenia)
Ivan Trichkovski - Legia (Poland)
Aleksandar Trajkovski - Palermo (Italy)

Strikers
Ilija Nestorovski - Inter Zaprešić (Croatia)
Bazhe Ilijoski - Rabotnichki (Macedonia)
Krste Velkoski - Sarajevo (BiH)

Injuries to Mitov-Nilsson, Hasani, Pandev and Kostovski mean that our squad is quite depleted, especially in an attacking sense

A number of U21 players will be called up for the second friendly vs Lebanon after they play their qualifier vs France

Nothing exciting about this squad apart from the presence of Ilija Nestorovski who is the top scorer in the Croatian league and who should finally get a proper chance in the NT shirt

I expect a loss to Montenegro and i'm not sure what to expect against Lebanon
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Unexpected 4-1 win over Montenegro - who are obviously a stronger side

Then again it is a friendly so i'm not reading much into it. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't win against Lebanon next week

Macedonia Line-up: Dimitrievski, Ristovski, Shikov, Mojsov, Zuta, Stjepanovic (72' Brdarovski), Gligorov, Ibraimi, Trichkovski (57' Petrovic), Velkoski (58' Nestorovski), Trajkovski (83' Ilijoski).
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Highlights from the game

Scorers were Shikov and Trajkovski with the hat-trick
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For how long is Arian Ademi suspended?
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post #668 of 684 (permalink) Old November 14th, 2015, 04:33
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For how long is Arian Ademi suspended?
That is still unknown

UEFA have postponed the hearing to November 16th so we won't know until then

I've heard rumours of between 2-4 years though so it does not look good at this stage

It's a real shame for our NT because he is clearly head and shoulders above our current CDM's, especially with Uros Matic still not being cleared by FIFA, but if Arijan is found guilty then there is not much one can say - rules are rules.
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We have a friendly vs Lebanon today at 13:00 CET

Agim Ibraimi has gone back to Maribor but apart from that everyone is ready + four U21 players have been called up: Aleksovski (GK), Zajkov (CB), Bardhi (CM) and Angelov (ST)

Unfortunately Angelovski has said that he will start the same players as he did against Montenegro, which means only Ibraimi will be replaced. I would have liked to of seen full games for Nestorovski, Zajkov and Bardhi.
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Unexpected 4-1 win over Montenegro - who are obviously a stronger side

Then again it is a friendly so i'm not reading much into it. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't win against Lebanon next week
Lebanon close to claiming a 1-0 win.

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Lebanon close to claiming a 1-0 win.
They did end up winning 1-0 and as I said - i'm not surprised

Typical case of our players playing with no energy and looking like they don't want to be out there. I knew that even after the Montenegro win that Angelovski has a lot of work to do and a few personnel changes to make and this result proves it.

Line-Up: Dimitrievski, Ristovski (70' Brdarovski), Shikov, Mojsov, Zuta, Stjepanovic (46' Bardhi), Gligorov (63' Petrovic), Trichkovski, Velkoski (78' Angelov), Nestorovski (46' Ilijoski), Trajkovski.
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I'm not sure if there is any chance of an appeal. I heard that Dinamo will try and fight it somehow. Maybe CAS?

There are quite a lot of conflicting reports on this issue so who knows what actually happened

If the ban stays at 4 years his professional career is over
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Yes Dinamo will probably go to CAS but in all reality a ban will stay, the best hope is to reduce it
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Vecernji List reports Ademi took stanozolol, a performance enhancing steroid. So even if he took it by "accident" he'll be lucky to get any leniency, though I have a hard time believing you can take this by accident
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Vecernji List reports Ademi took stanozolol, a performance enhancing steroid. So even if he took it by "accident" he'll be lucky to get any leniency, though I have a hard time believing you can take this by accident
The whole situation seems very suspect

Dinamo claim that the FFM doctors gave him the steroid

The FFM have largely avoided the situation altogether

Ademi claims that he took it by "accident"

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Hopefully the truth comes out very soon but atm it looks like it is unlikely that he will get his ban reduced/overturned
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We finally have a response from the Macedonian NT doctor - Dr.Viktor Kamilovski

The main points are:
  1. He denies giving Ademi the drug, which is confirmed to be Stanosolol - an anabolic steriod mainly used by bodybuilders
  2. He questions whether the suspension would have been lighter if the player had played for a bigger club/NT
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Најпрвин сакам да го изразам моето жалење за целокупната ситуација во врска со допинг контролата за Аријан Адеми, инаку мој добар пријател и одличен фудбалер. Моментите се навистина тешки и Аријан ја има мојата максимална поддршка да издржи до крај.

Како долгогодишен доктор на македонската фудбалска репрезентација под секаква кривична и морална одговорност изјавувам дека јас и мојот медицински тим работиме, а во иднина така и ќе биде, согласно строгите и прецизни пропозиции на ВАДА, УЕФА и Правилникот на ФФМ. Тоа е вистината, се друго е во доменот на шпекулациите и можност за зголемување на публицитетот како во Македонија така и во Хрватска и сето тоа за жал врз судбината на еден многу добар и надежен играч кој ги брани боите на нашата фудбалска репрезентација.

Исто така, сакам да кажам дека пронајдената супстанца во крвта на Адеми е Stanosolol, синтетски анаболен стероид. Истата супстанца е 35 пати појака од другите (како methyltestosteron) ја користат главно билдерите како стимуланс за подобрување на физичките перформанси и тоа со зголемување на продукцијата на еритроцитите како и мускулната маса. Во медицината се користи за лекување на некои видови на анемија и за хередитарен ангиоедем.

Но, за мене како спортски трауматолог останува отворено прашањето дали можеби суспензијата не е превисока знаејќи дека во исти случаи, но во различни големи клубови казната била многу поумерена.

Уште еднаш официјално изјавувам дека во мојата пракса ниту сум дал, ниту под било каков притисок ќе дадам недозволена допинг супстанца на спортист.

Секое понатамошно неоправдано користење на моето име ќе го сметам директно како клевета и нарушување на угледот и честа на мојата личност како високо рангиран професионалец за што ќе имам необорливи докази за било кој суд во земјата и на интернационално ниво.

Др. Камиловски

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hahaha it is eerily accurate

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Friendly vs Slovenia has been confirmed to be played on 23rd of March in Koper
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