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post #1 of 119 (permalink) Old January 16th, 2007, 18:50 Thread Starter
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Is it time to clean house and get rid of FFM including Katanec?

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Јас не сакам да работам со други луѓе. Ако има проблем, ако се обидат да ги сменат претседателот и генералниот секретар, тоа значи дека во тој момент ме смениле и мене. Тие новите што ќе дојдат нека си стават нивен селектор, јас не сакам да работам така. Ќе ми биде жал, ама така ќе биде. Мене на оваа функција ме доведоа Хари и Лазе (Хаџи-Ристески и Лазар Митровски - н.з.), па јас и ќе си заминам со нив. За сево ова го информирав и претседателот Хаџи-Ристески, кому му го реков истото - дека ќе си одам ако ги сменат нив - вели Катанец.
Like Fanatico wrote in the off topic thread that if Laze and Hari are replaced in FFM then Katanec has said that he will resign and leave... IMO even if it means Katanec leaving i think its time to clean house and get rid of everyone!! its time for a fresh new start and all criminals should be put behind bars, its time once and for all to make an example and clean out the football in our country enough of the scandals and match fixing!!!
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Solun did hit the nail ! its very logical what Solun told.... I dont belive that Katanec signed for only 120.000 euros a year, 240.000 euros for two years e,t,c...

I too also feel that Katanec gett money who are not taxed, he gett black money from Lazar and Hari, if i wouild estimate i would say 100.000 in black for one year... They did not register they whole sallery so it will gett cheaper.....

Katanec cant be this stupid with out any reasons, he can not support a man when peole, have evidence againt some, he cant not be so stupid and support crime...

Its simpel, he have an private money deal with Lazar and Hari and if they go in prison he know that he will never gett the money so for his own private intrest he support them,, its very logical is it not ?
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yes its logical..
if lazo and hari leave the ffm katanec wouldnt get his black money also 100 000you say.
I so disapointed
I hope really we could make the euro 2008
But all over yet.
we should clean our federation tohave areal chance to qualify for the WC 2010 thats all I cn say about this scandal.
Im sure everyone knows that deep in his mind everyone knows that hari and lazo are criminals and that the NT will never Q. for a tourny if this Two bandits are on the top of our federation.
the year 2007 will be dark one for our NT i feel

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I'm very surprised ... it's very rare case that the coach of NT is talking about affairs inside the football federation. Coach is from coaching and such proffesionalist as Katanec who was on World Cup and Euro should know it.

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Wow they've even manipulated with Katanec. I can't believe this

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Welcome to the Balkans my friend. lol Other Federations are not as clean. But in the Balkans theyt ake it over the top. lol
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For me the most important thing now is to have some new people come in that we can really trust basically honesty is the #1 thing. Where is Ilija Najdoski?? he was always a straight up honest person and is one guy i can honestly trust to not favor anyone and bring the trust back to our domestic league. What about Pancev? can we really trust him? i mean i love the guy but when it comes to our domestic league you know someone like him who has been a part of the Vardar uprava would favor his own team. For someone who follows other leagues around us closely i want to know who is in charge in Croatia or the Serbian footbal federations? do they have people who are neutral and not guys who would set up certain teams to be champs like Hari did with Pobeda or Dzingo with Sileks?
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Vlatko Markovic, he doesn't care about the HNL, so yes he is neutral. His focus is on the NT, and my only argument against him is ignoring the bid and focusing way too much on this Euro 2012 bid, on our board it is 50/50, he has done great things but our league is declining and sometimes he is not strict enough (don't know how to say it exactly, but basically in 2004 he was bitched around by Ciro who did not want Katanec to be the manager despite most people wanting him)

but we are like the 3rd most profitable FA in all of Europe somehow, I think the sponsorship with Nike helps

also I read a few days ago that the majority of the players in the Macedonian league aren't even professional
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I wouldn't take comments seriously considering that he would of left this year any way. He knows his leaving so I wasn't that surprised he would say these things.


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FIFA Could Dismiss Macedonia Because of Rows with Football Federation

17 January 2007 | 11:18 | FOCUS News Agency

Skopje. FIFA could dismiss Macedonia from participation in matches because of the last rows in the football federation of the country, the press announced in Macedonia. Police sealed the building of the federation late on Monday evening and last night the secretary general Lazar Mitrovski was arrested. The situation in Skopje is monitored by UEFA, Utrinksi Vesnik reports. The Macedonian Football Federation chairman Hari Hadjiristevski said that there will be serious reaction directly from the Macedonian cabinet, the newspaper adds.

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FIFA Could Dismiss Macedonia Because of Rows with Football Federation

17 January 2007 | 11:18 | FOCUS News Agency

Skopje. FIFA could dismiss Macedonia from participation in matches because of the last rows in the football federation of the country, the press announced in Macedonia. Police sealed the building of the federation late on Monday evening and last night the secretary general Lazar Mitrovski was arrested. The situation in Skopje is monitored by UEFA, Utrinksi Vesnik reports. The Macedonian Football Federation chairman Hari Hadjiristevski said that there will be serious reaction directly from the Macedonian cabinet, the newspaper adds.
I wouldn't take it seriously, they threated like that to Portugal, Greece and Poland but finally nothing happened.

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If its not affecting player payments Uefa cannot do shite! Anyways were doing Uefa a favor in reducing corruption!

PS Anyways I wouldn't take anything that is said in Focus considering the problems were having with Bulgaria!


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The news are finaly in Swedish media as well... I dont think Uefa will start to investigate before the Uefa president elections are over who will soon be held.. Fifa will start very soon i think...

Everything in the raticel are true, Police have sealed the building and Lazar Mitrovski is arested..
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I wouldn't take it seriously, they threated like that to Portugal, Greece and Poland but finally nothing happened.
This could very well happend and with our bord we have we dont deserve to send our NT for games and clubbs in europ.. But on the other hand thing tsrats to happen and the bord will change anyway.

People have bigg evidence against this poeple, what you think Fifa will say when they see that this bord have send teams to euro cups with false licence ?

Still the biggest crime they have made is the betting fixing but is very hard to faind evidence since its more people involved who bet for this people.

All this mess will be solved very soon anyway since this federation people days are finaly over...


Alos P-C Portugal and Greece are not Macedonia, Macedonia is no loss for Fifa so they can realize a threat like this..

Azerbaijan is a nation who dont mean anything to FIFA and the threat wos realized against Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan wos banned for some months untill the soccer mess in Azerbaijan wos solved..

But as i told we are about to fix this by our selfs..
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Катанец: "Си одам, ако си оди Хари"

* "Не сакам ова да се сфати како мој ултиматум или револт, меѓутоа мислам дека и во секоја друга фирма, институција, или најилустративно фудбалски клуб, нормално е вашето заминување ако го нема човекот со кого сте се договориле на соработка", вели нашиот селектор.

Македонскиот селектор Среќко Катанец од својот дом во Љубљана за "Македонски спорт" вчера најави дека реално е неговото заминување од челната функција на нашата "А" репрезентација доколку дојде до смена на претседателот на ФФМ, Хари Хаџи-Ристески. Словенецот како што истакна навистина ништо или сосема малку знае околу последните случувања во ФФМ, меѓутоа прецизно образложува зошто би се решил на овој чекор...

"Мојот договор е со Хари. Па, доколку го нема човекот со кого сум се договорил логично е и јас да ја напуштам функцијата, од едноставно причина што еве хипотетички не знам дали би била искрена таа соработка со новите луѓе, дали тие сметаат на мене или сигурно си имаат свој селектор како дел од размислувањата за промени во фудбалот", ни изјави Катанец притоа веднаш надополнувајќи:

"Не сакам ова да се сфати како мој ултиматум или некаков револт, меѓутоа мислам дека и во секоја друга фирма, институција, или најилустративно фудбалски клуб, нормално е вашето заминување ако го нема човекот со кого сте се договориле на соработка. Според хиерархијата во ФФМ на прво место е претседателот, а потоа е селекторот на сениорската репрезентација. Значи, за секоја останата функција не е важно дали таа ќе биде испразнета, меѓутоа ако го нема претседателот кој е над мене во овој случај и со кого сум се договорил на соработка сметам дека ќе нема место и за мене во македонскиот фудбал. Ќе ми биде многу жал меѓутоа најверојатно ќе биде така".

Според Катанец, неможноста за продолжување на водењето на нашиот фудбал лежи во (не)искреноста на желбата за соработка со евентуалните нови работодавци.

"Јас целиот овој период имав навистина убава соработка со Хаџи-Ристески, па мислам дека истото тоа би го немало со евентуален нов претседател кој сигурно би си имал свои кандидати, па и за селекторската функција. Не сакам постојано да виси моето селекторско место поради некаква недоверба... Мислам дека ме разбирате. Не се работи за никаков инает, или можеби дека сакам да бранам некого, меѓутоа тоа е моето размислување и принцип", истакнува Словенецот.(dobra sorabotka so Har )

Катанец деновиве се очекуваше да пристигне во Скопје за последните договори пред пријателскиот натпревар со Албанија, меѓутоа неговото доаѓање е одложено...

"Сега не доаѓам затоа што доколку ете, колку што знам го нема Лазе или Хари, ќе нема со кого да се сретнам и да ги договарам деталите... Меѓутоа јас сосема нормално се подготвувам за натпреварот со Албанија, па потоа и за со Хрватска. Што ќе биде, ќе видиме понатаму, затоа што сега не можам ништо друго да кажам", го завршивме вчерашниот телефонски разговор со македонскиот селектор.

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СЛОВЕНЕЦОТ МОРА ДА ЗНАЕ...

Цела македонска јавност е зад Катанец.......jas vise ne

Со оглед на очигледната несигурност на Среќко Катанец за неговата искрена соработка со некое ново раководство на ФФМ што би било причина за евентуално негово заминување од селекторската клупа, неизбежно е истакнувањето на еден факт: Словенецот ја има подршката од целата македонската јавност.

Факт е дека во "црнилото" на македонскиот фудбал изминатава година Катанец и нашата репрезентација беа единствената светла точка. Факт е дека Катанец има договор со Фудбалската федерација на Македонија а не со поединци. Факт е дека Катанец на селекторската клупа го одржуваат само резултатите а не некакви договори со Хари. Веруваме дека и било кој друг да дојде на чело на ФФМ искрено ќе го посакува Катанец на селекторската клупа затоа што дефинитивно потврди дека многу што може да му понуди на нашиот фудбал.

Не сакам да заземам никаква страна

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Da Katanec napravi mnogu za nasiot fudball sega sme na 54th posicija na svetot. No so ovaj Skandal se rasturi
Naum znam deka sega go mrzis katanec ali on ipak ne dovedi do uspesi kako
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satoa on ja ima od mnogu nas podrska.
Menen mije najvazno da gi smenat hari i laze pa ako saka i katanec bega nema da mu se molime da ostane ako ne saka od sam

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FIFA Could Dismiss Macedonia Because of Rows with Football Federation

17 January 2007 | 11:18 | FOCUS News Agency

Skopje. FIFA could dismiss Macedonia from participation in matches because of the last rows in the football federation of the country, the press announced in Macedonia. Police sealed the building of the federation late on Monday evening and last night the secretary general Lazar Mitrovski was arrested. The situation in Skopje is monitored by UEFA, Utrinksi Vesnik reports. The Macedonian Football Federation chairman Hari Hadjiristevski said that there will be serious reaction directly from the Macedonian cabinet, the newspaper adds.
Looks like things are finally becoming serious. have they shown any footage of his arrest on the news?
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People have bigg evidence against this poeple, what you think Fifa will say when they see that this bord have send teams to euro cups with false licence ?
I don't really think that they have a lot of evidence now, and I have my doubts about Laze's diploma, he looks pretty cool about it and not really worried, could you imagine what would happen if MS was wrong!!!
Plus very bad move be MVR storming the offices with out a warrant, they really should have had one.
If they find out that they have been really corrupt they should get canned, but the general Macedonian public has always hated the people in charge of FFM, everyone was spitting on Zingo when he was the president, now everyone is saying what a great job he was doing back then. So until I see some hard evidence, I will have my doubts.

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This is just ridiculous that Katanec wants to quit if FFM is thrown out. Why is Katanec getting involved with the FFM's politics, they hired him a coach not as lawyer etc...

This is a stupid quote he said about "IF they change the FFM then they will change me to".......

Why would we change him, unless he was involved some how aswell... They are maybe all in on the deal and backing each other up...

IF Katanec wants to leave then leave, seiously. FFM is fuvking long over due of being kicked out and when they finally are we should declare it as a national holiday.

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Katanec will use this situation as an excuse to leave our NT sooner. I bet he has many bigger offers

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