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post #1 of 76 (permalink) Old February 19th, 2005, 04:49 Thread Starter
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Macedonia-Andorra match fixed !!!

СПОРЕД ШПАНСКИОТ "ЕЛ МУНДО ДЕПОРТИВО"
Македонија одиграла наместен меч со Андора?!

Според шпанскиот весник "Ел мундо депортиво" постојат сериозни индиции дека квалификацискиот натпревар за СП-2006, Андора - Македонија (1-0), кој се одигра на 13 октомври минатата година, е наместен. "Постојат индиции дека одредени влијателни кругови на Балканот им дале инструкции на селекторот Канатларовски, еден играч на македонската репрезентација и членови на ФФМ да го загубат натпреварот", се вели во текстот на весникот наменет за аферата со наместени резултати во Европа. Сомневањата станале сериозни по објавувањето на податокот дека во Португалија имало многу играчи во обложувачниците што типувале победа на Андора од 1-0.

Well if this doesnt prove that the first match was fixed then
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post #2 of 76 (permalink) Old February 19th, 2005, 05:08
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I knew something wasn't right, when Kanatlarovski said during an interview that we were playing for repect. This even before the Andorra game. What coach would give up, when the NT yet had played against Andorra and Finland.
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post #5 of 76 (permalink) Old February 19th, 2005, 11:43
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Anyone know Spanish????? her is the artical i think they talk about in makedonska media today..... Jeses Dragan was involved and one in FFM,presumably Hazi-Ristevski and one players the spanish newspaper say in el mundo deportivo say this macedonian newspaper..... Bets in Spain on the result 1-0..... I don't give a **** about this anymore,this is not sport......


http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20050...192019193.html

Aceptada la dimisión de Kanatlarovski

El seleccionador macedonio renunció el domingo tras el 0-0 del día 9 ante Andorra

Agencias / SKOPJE (MACEDONIA)


18/02/05 03:00 h.La Federación de Macedonia aceptó ayer la dimisión que el seleccionador Dragan Kanatlarovski presentó el domingo tras el 0-0 cosechado el pasado día 9 ante Andorra en partido clasificatorio para el Mundial-2006 disputado en Skopje. El técnico ya había anunciado su renuncia en octubre de 2004 como consecuencia de la derrota que encajó en el estadio Comunal del Principado (1-0), pero entonces los directivos le convencieron para seguir en el cargo.

Aquella derrota, que representó el primer triunfo en competición oficial de la modesta selección andorrana, ha generado sospechas ante los rumores de que el propio Kanatlarovski, algunos jugadores e incluso ciertos directivos de la Federación habría amañado el resultado en conexión con una casa de apuestas.

Kanatlarovski accedió al cargo de seleccionador en agosto de 2004 y Macedonia ha ganado cinco y perdido cinco delos 14 partidos que ha disputado bajo su dirección. Ahora pone fin a su segundo periplo al frente del equipo tras ser destituido en 2001 por su decepcionante trayectoria en la fase clasificatoria para el Mundial-2002
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I know some Spanish..this is a basic translation

The Macedonian manager resigned Sunday after the 0-0 of Andorra of the 9th.

The Federation of Macedonia accepted the resignation of the manager Dragan Kanatlarovski after the display of 0-0 on the 9th day of February against Andorra for a qualfying match for the World Cup-2006, the match was disputed in Skopje. The manager had already announced his resignation in October of 2004 as a result of the defeat in Comunal del Principado (1-0) but then the directors convinced him to continue with the job.

That defeat, that represented the first official victory in a competitive match for the Andorran selection has generated suspicisions before the rumours that before the match, Kanatlarovski, some players and the federation would have fixed the result in connection with bets.

Kanatlarovski accended to the manager in August of 2004 and Macedonia has gained five wins, five losses and four draws, in 14 matches
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Thanks for the translation.

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Bets in Spain on the result 1-0..... I don't give a **** about this anymore,this is not sport......
Well you are right now we know that FFM is all about putting money in there own pockets first it was Pobeda vs Puynik and now this, **** you Hari !!!!!!!
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post #8 of 76 (permalink) Old February 20th, 2005, 11:21
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Hajduk Split thanks!!!!! I have to ask you for one more translate of the latest articel!!!!
here is the link:

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20050...191979965.html

Lanzan sospechas sobre la Liga española

En Alemania dudan de la limpieza de un partido de 2001 y el histórico Andorra-Macedonia, otro en entredicho

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17/02/05 03:00 h.Joseph Blatter, presidente de la FIFA, manifestó el sábado que el escándalo de corrupción destapado en Alemania “es un disparo de alerta” para el deporte mundial y no se puede abordar “como un problema nacional”. Las sospechas acerca de la manipulación de partidos a cargo de redes de apuestas se extiende cada vez más.

Muy sensibles por el tema, en Alemania incluso implican a la Liga española. Según asegura hoy el diario Frankfurter Allgemeine, una persona ganó en 2001 cerca de 13 millones de marcos en una sospechosa apuesta que incluía un partido de la Primera División española y cuatro de la Serie A italiana, éstos sin ninguna trascendencia pero con triunfos de los equipos que no eran favoritos.

La agencia de apuestas Oddset recibió la apuesta de un hombre conocido como 'El gran jugador', pero no ve ningún motivo para sospechar que esos partidos fueran manipulados para favorecer al apostador.

Mientras, el escándalo también puede salpicar al Andorra-Macedonia, clasificatorio para el Mundial-2006, disputado el 13 de octubre de 2004 en el estadio Comunal. Aquel encuentro supuso un hito para la modesta selección andorrana ya que el gol de Marc Bernaus significó su primer triunfo en competición oficial. Cuatro meses después, con motivo de la devolución de visita saldada por los jugadores del Principado el pasado día 9 con un no menos meritorio 0-0, en Macedonia, según ha podido saber MD, existe la sospecha de que el histórico 1-0 estaba amañado.

Aunque parezca poco creíble, la versión que circula en el país balcánico apunta a que el propio seleccionador macedonio, Dragan Kanatlarovski, algún jugador y miembros de la Federación recibieron órdenes de dejarse perder. El rumor surgió al detectarse un inusual número de apuestas portuguesas por el resultado.

Hubiera amaño o no, Kanatlarovski, ex defensa del Depor, dimitió inmediatamente después de la, para él, humillante derrota ante Andorra, pero la Federación no la aceptó. Curiosamente, tras el 0-0 del miércoles, el técnico ha vuelto a presentar la renuncia y los dirigentes deben anunciar si esta vez la acatan

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post #9 of 76 (permalink) Old February 20th, 2005, 12:24
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Look at this
http://www.sport.com.mk/WBStorage/Fi...0Fudbal%203.pd

As you can see from the pics in the link makedonski sport have publish all webpages from el mundo,DSF,Gazzeta and many more big wb pages and TV channel who have publish this.. Makedonski sport say that tjis have to bee the end for FFM no FA in the world can stay on the post after this......

A just wait for UEFA and FIFA to also put pressure now and go to the bottom with this, It's starting to be hard for MR idiot Hazi, This can be the saving for maco soccer or the death, we will see what happen.....

Picka im maternina cela vreme pisuvame za ovije lajna a so nasite nadeshi tie se zaebavat, i badila sto gubime vreme za ovije lajna!!!!!! kako sto velat na makedonski sport gore!!! cela evropa pluka po nas!!!!!! edino cigani moze da go prodava nationalniot pride...... UUUUU mrsssssssssss gubrina u picku materina, kako ne im e stram da se zastramat igraci i uprava i sve!!!!!! uste pak pisuvame za ovije lajna igraci i sve!!!! ma jok u picku materina, kakov pandev vishe kakvi bakraci makedonija ja prodavat......site se krivi samo zatvor za niv pa makar ako treba so igraci od napredok ke igrame...


Naslovot na makedonski sport sve kazivat!!!!! NAMESTANE,MESTACI!!!!!!! nemam povejke komentari za ovije lajna.......

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Don't expect too much from FIFA, they're corrupt themselves. Also, if anyone were to fire the people in your FA who wasn't from that organization, FIFA would pull your teams out of every tournament. In short they're bastards.

Hopefully though, this is the end for these bastards and you can start fresh from here on.
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Don't expect too much from FIFA, they're corrupt themselves. Also, if anyone were to fire the people in your FA who wasn't from that organization, FIFA would pull your teams out of every tournament. In short they're bastards.

Hopefully though, this is the end for these bastards and you can start fresh from here on.

Drulo is something to fix and play with a team but to sell your national pride? don't you understand man????? tehy should be killed. Players(players are involved too) and all of them.....
U PICKU MATER :frustrat: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.sport.com.mk/WBStorage/Fi...slovna%201.pdf
http://www.sport.com.mk/WBStorage/Fi...Fudbal%203.pdf

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Can you even read?

I just said that FIFA is also corrupt, like those idiots in your FA. Of course the coaches and players involved should never again be called IMO and that's being nice since they actually deserve a beating.
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Can you even read?

I just said that FIFA is also corrupt, like those idiots in your FA. Of course the coaches and players involved should never again be called IMO and that's being nice since they actually deserve a beating.
wHAT HAVE THE SERBS REPORT abou this?????? have they made any coment on the media today are yesterday??????

Hajduk split!!!!! I have read on DSF but can you translate that spanish???? please i can not spanish only german.... I don't know italian but I don't think any here know.
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20050...191979965.html
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I just checked Sportskacentrala and b92, but no mention of it so far. I'm sure they'll pick up on the story though.
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Hahhaha, hilarious..

If your players was involved in this I feel sorry for them because if this comes out to the bigger newspaper imagine what kind of reputation your players will get...
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Igor Mitreski would never do such a thing!
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post #17 of 76 (permalink) Old February 20th, 2005, 13:16
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Hahhaha, hilarious..

If your players was involved in this I feel sorry for them because if this comes out to the bigger newspaper imagine what kind of reputation your players will get...

So know it is hilarious??? but you made me to an idiot when i tray to explain to you before......

It's allready out in bigg newspapers in spain,germany,russia,italia(Also TV DSF Germany) and soon Uefa.com will post....... gazzeta have trayd to get pandev for an comment but he refuse.

The spanish was first with this 1 day ago!!!! when they not strange huge bet not only on andorra win but also the result 1-0......

I still wait for Hajduk Split for spanish translate.......

But I don't care about tjis idiots anymore!!!!! I feel ashamed to bee macedonian after this.

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In Germany they doubt the fixing of a 2001 match and the historical Andorra - Macedonia.
Blatter, president of FIFA, showed on Saturday that the scandal of corruption in Germany is an alert for the world-wide sport and that it can't be approached as only a national problem. The suspicions about the manipulation of parties in charge of networks of bets extend even more.
Very sensible by subject in Germany, they even apply to the Spanish Liga. According to the newspaper in Frankfurt today, a person won in 2001 near 13 million marks in a suspicious bet that included a team from the Spanish First Division and four Serie A clubs who had no importance but won a match that they were not favorite in.
The agency of oddest bets received the bet of a man known like a player but it does not expect that the teams manipulated the matches.
While, the scandal also can sprinkle to the Andorra - Macedonia, qualifier for World Cup 2006, played on the 13th of October, 2004 in the Communal stadium.That encounter brought a landmark for the modest Andorra team since the goal of Marc Bernues meant its first official victory in competition. Four months later, in the occasion of the return visit settled by the players of the principality the past ninth day of this month with a 0-0 draw in Macedonia. In Macedonia, there exists a suspiscion that the historical 1-0 defeat was fixed.
Although it seems credible, the version circulates that in the Balkan country, the manager Dragan Kanatlarovski, the Macedonia FA and even players recieved orders to lose the match. The rumours arose when an unusual number of bets in Portugal got the correct result.
There was skill or no, Kanatlarovski, ex defender of Deportivo resigned immediately after, for him a humilating defeat to Andorra but the federation did not accept it. After the 0-0 on Wednesday the manager has again offered resignation and the leaders this time accept it
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Thanx HS.
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Hahhaha, hilarious..

If your players was involved in this I feel sorry for them because if this comes out to the bigger newspaper imagine what kind of reputation your players will get...
Sorry!? I hope they rotten in hell!
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