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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old July 10th, 2003, 13:58 Thread Starter
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Artim Sakiri can't go to WBA !

АРТИМ ШАЌИРИ НЕ МОЖЕ ДА ЗАМИНЕ ВО ВЕСТ БРОМВИЧ

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Министерството за внатрешни работи на Англија вчера го одби барањето на Вест Бромвич Албион, клуб кој остана без работна воза за Артим Шаќири. И покрај тоа што членот на Првата дивизија има право на жалба, шансите на македонскиот репрезентативец да направи трансфер се минимални. Според ова, Артим Шаќири треба да бара нов клуб затоа што за него понудите од Англија не можат да се реализираат.

Ова е вторпат како Шаќири останува без работна виза. Пред точно 18 месеци Болтон не успеа да го купи Шаќири, кој во тоа време ги бранеше боите на словенечкиот тим Горица. Причината поради која македонските фудбалери не можат да играат во Англија е слабиот рејтинг на националниот тим. Македонија треба да биде до 60. место на ФИФА листата па тогаш државните власти на Англија да издаваат работни визи за нашите фудбалери. Ако добиеше работна виза Шаќири ќе потпишеше тригодишен договор со Вест Бромвич, а годишно ќе добиваше по 250.000 евра.

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things look bad. he has to find a new club quickly... it's always the same thing in england they buy us as players and their authorities consider us as refugees !
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old July 11th, 2003, 20:06
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They stink anyway, they were very lucky the even get to the Premiership. In the first division a 4-5 game unbeaten run can make you go up 7-8 spots on the table! They just had one good year in Div.1 and went to the premiership without buying any new players and had no chance, but thier fans were the best in the league still singing when losing to Liverpool 6-0.
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Dont you think thats a bit of generalisation?

We weren't lucky we wee a cracking team in Div , but the gap between the two leagues is skill and we didn't have much of that.

Megson signed 7 new players for life in the Prem, however none of them were really well known, bar maybe Koumas.

If you recall the WBA story under Megson was he saved us from relegation on the last day after taking over about 8 games before.
Then the following season we reached the play offs, and lost to Bolton. Then we won promotion STRAIGHT by finishing second with a very solid defensive unit. Trouble is the quality was not there to play like that in the Prem, and we all knew it! But he continued doing it anyway. The dreaded 5-3-2.

Now it seems he wants to play 4-4-2 (hurrah!)
we have just signed Rob Hulse from Crewe, Bernt Haas (Swiss international) will be joining him shortly. James O'Connor from Stoke. I really fancy us for auto promotion again next season.

Sakiri has failed a WP hearing.
However the club is up in arms about it and the Manager and directors are meeting government officials on Monday to hear complints by the club about an unfair hearing.

Megson caused annoyance in the FA last season, claiming that a lot of the refereeing decisions were not beig given to us. (And to be fair there were some SHOCKING decisions against us by corrupt refs!)

We never really got completely outclassed apart from that Liverpool game, when we had no (thats zero, nil) fit centre backs to select from and ended up playing 2 midfielders and a left back there. So it wasn't that surprising.

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From local press in Birmingham

From today's express & Star....

Albion's tortuous transfer experiences have continued following the rejection of a work permit for Artim Sakiri.
But it is the reasons behind this latest setback that will today dominate Baggies debate.

Just why has the Macedonian skipper being denied a chance to ply his trade in England? Is the man who made a monkey out of David Seaman last year during an eye-catching performance for his country really not good enough for the First Division?

Or are the whispers coming out of The Hawthorns last night correct? Has manager Gary Megson been the victim of the settling of a few old scores? Understandably, Albion are keeping their counsel with regard to the identities of the men who made up the Appeals panel as they prepare to take their fight to the Home Office.

The six wise men who decided Sakiri was not good enough for the Nationwide included representatives from the FA, PFA and Football League and three football "experts." They are, more often than not, out-of-work managers - and it's at this point
where suggestions of 'foul play' have cropped up.

Conspiracy theories abound these days and suggesting a few old scores against Albion's combative, fiery manager were settled by rejecting Sakiri could be viewed as another one. But it takes a lot to rile highly-respected and mild-mannered Albion secretary Dr John Evans. In 30 years of football administration he has seen it all but the outcome of his club's Appeal last night clearly incensed him.

Such was the depth of his anger, you sensed Albion are adamant this was not a decision based solely on Sakiri's merits as a footballer. "I feel the vote did not go accoring to the series of arguments we put forward," said Evans. "I'm convinced - and it's a personal conviction - that at least two members of the panel had decided to vote against Artim Sakiri before hearing a shred of evidence." The language is polite but the inference is clear - Albion feel they have been victims of a pre-set agenda which has blown a huge hole in Megson's team planning for the First Division. All football men have their 'little black books' - it's inevitable in such a competitive industry. And over the years Megson has rubbed a few people up the wrong way. Maybe, just maybe, it was pay-back time for someone in Sheffield yesterday.
Having turned down Albion's initial application, the key issue yesterday was to decide whether Sakiri would add anything to English football.

On that basis the decision becomes even more baffling. Macedonia may not be one of world football's heavy-weights, but they are certainly no mugs as their performances against England and Turkey in the Euro 2004 qualifiers prove. Sakiri is by some way their finest player and could well be a hit in the Premiership never mind the First Division. What is beyond doubt is that the present appeal system is flawed.

Albion and Evans already knew that having suffered a similar rejection three years ago. Clint Marcelle - remember him? - was the player at the centre of the appeal. Having already been handed a permit to sign for Barnsley, Marcelle was
blocked from joining Albion during the early days of Megson's reign. Three months later he was granted a permit and given the go-ahead to join former Baggies boss Brian Little at Hull.

Back to Dr John.
"The vote ended three - three yesterday which meant our appeal was rejected," he explained. "We will be sending a letter to overseas labour to tell them of our disappointment. "The chairman of the panel told me every member confirmed to him our
presentation could not have been better. "That was borne out by the fact the committee only asked two questions. We had clearly covered everything and everyone was very polite. "I feel the vote did not go accoring to the series of arguments we put
forward. "You have to get used to disappointments in professional sport, but occasionally you get a disappointment that is unfair and unjustified." We perhaps will never know if, indeed, someone had it in for Megson but what Albion fans will want now is a swift response.

Time is pressing and the strengthening programme, of which Sakiri was a key figure, is spluttering rather than firing on all cylinders. This all adds to the perception that no club dawdles and dithers in the transfer market quite like the Baggies.
Jason Koumas, Danny Dichio, even Big Dave himself . . . all three took time and enormous patience to be recruited. Albion are stressing they want a good start and Megson is hinting at an attempt to expand the dimensions of his team's game.
For that he needs new players and now it looks as if Sakiri will not be one of them. Megson will be fuming at all the time and effort wasted on this protracted and ultimately doomed deal. It may well be that for once, Albion's transfer troubles sprang from events beyond their control.

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simply as stupid as scandalous... any other transfer news about him guys ?
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he is having another hearing tomorrow (Wed) in Sheffield, after WBA successfully complained to the foreign office that there was an injustice done.

I hope we will be successful in it.

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Well the hearing was today not Wednesday.

West Brom have finally been given the go-ahead by the Home Office to complete the signing of CSKA Sofia's Artim Sakiri.

The Baggies were granted a second appeal against a decision by the Department of Overseas Labour not to give the Macedonian captain a work permit, and the initial decision has been overturned.

The 29-year-old midfielder has already agreed to sign a two-year deal with the First Division club, although the deal is still subject to a medical.

If the final details of the switch can be ironed out, the Baggies will pay the Bulgarian club a nominal fee for Sakiri's services.

"We're really pleased with the outcome," Baggies boss Gary Megson told the club's official website.

"It's been a long haul since Artim first came over to train with us for a week last November, but we're delighted to have finally got him."

The Baggies first appeal for Sakiri was turned down at a hearing on 9 July.

But the matter was reported back to Home Office minister Beverley Hughes, who handed Gary Megson's side a lifeline.

Sakiri, the most capped player in his country's history, famously scored directly from a corner against England in a Euro 2004 qualifier at Southampton last year.



So good news for all, he'll be playing with us next season.
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great! i'm really happy for you anb all wba fans balis. it will be good to see a macedonian in your league. i hope he'll draw plenty of attention and it will highlight our players a bit more.
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I cant wait to see him the blue and white stripes of Albion

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How nice! I hadn't seen this thread before, and now I got to read the whole story, from top to bottom. After hearing so many nice things about WBA, I hope they only lose with one goal against Crystal Palace, and win most of the other matches.
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