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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old September 3rd, 2015, 16:29 Thread Starter
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Is English football in a sad state?

The days the transfer window is one of the biggest parts of English football is the day that it has officially become a circus. Transfer window has come and gone, yet still several fans over the country are talking about it, with either optimism or regret.

These are the same fans that ask to 'save grass roots football' yet when it comes to the transfer window they contradict themselves by asking for more money to be spent and splashing out on expensive foreign players from abroad.

The more and more foreign players come over, at over the odds prices nowhere near their real value, the more and more young academy English players get left out in the cold, mostly ending up in Non-League or prison for possession of drugs once released from their club at the ages between 16 and 19.

Obviously I may be overstating this, and I know the saying goes 'If they are good enough, they will make it'. This however is never further from the truth, some players get better with age, some with experience at the top level, both of which we can never see if players are consistently get loaned out to lower divisions or as I stated before, released at a young age because there is no way into an oversized squad.

This whole sorry state of affairs is a vicious cycle which will only lead to England and perhaps other countries in a similar state (Italy) getting worse year on year. The transfer market is a huge attraction, with big stores for the papers to sell, and fans getting sucked in to the whole furore. In the long run though it is just a circus in what many would see as a ultimately predictable end. Money rules the world, and it now rules the heads of the fans who support the clubs. National team football now comes second, but that does no good for this beautiful sport in this now modern country.

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It is. But not for the reasons you posted. I mean the transfer window always remained exciting. But the biggest problem is, that people just won't acknowledge that there are problems. Just bang on "best in the world this and best in the world that".

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Yeah and the English are not wanted anywhere.

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Except everyone wants to be in England

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Except everyone wants to be in England
They wanna get paid, be it Italy or Spain.

But English players are unwanted in England, probably the lowest percentage of local players at the top level. The are unwanted abroad, lowest level of players abroad(?) among the top countries. Their coaches aren't wanted in England, just 5 English managers at the top level and I can't think of any English managers abroad in a top league.

EDIT: 16 of 20 Liga managers Spanish.
17 of 20 in Serie A managers Italian.
11 of 18 Bundesliga managers German.

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English players don't go abroad primarily because championship wages are better than most top divisions. Same reason players from the top leagues in other countries are willing to come and play in the English second tier.
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English players don't go abroad primarily because championship wages are better than most top divisions. Same reason players from the top leagues in other countries are willing to come and play in the English second tier.
Or their not good enough to be paid those kind of wages abroad. Where a local guy will provide the same quality for less money.

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English players don't go abroad primarily because championship wages are better than most top divisions. Same reason players from the top leagues in other countries are willing to come and play in the English second tier.
Or their not good enough to be paid those kind of wages abroad. Where a local guy will provide the same quality for less money.
Which is pretty much a different way of saying exactly the same thing.
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Which is pretty much a different way of saying exactly the same thing.
It's basically comes down to they aren't good enough. If they were they would be getting chances abroad. If the English players were good enough, there wouldn't be so many foreigners in the league at all.

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There's no need for a chance abroad though, why should they move when they can get paid in their own country?

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English football is absolutely the best and anybody who thinks so is a Robin from the Wood.
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There's no need for a chance abroad though, why should they move when they can get paid in their own country?
Why is that most of the top level clubs in England are playing with foreigners instead?

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Because every English club can afford to pay top wages whilst most Spnish and Italian clubs don't have a pot to piss in? There's a lad on my Saturday team who played in the Portuguese second division and he makes more money here working in a kitchen.

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Because every English club can afford to pay top wages whilst most Spnish and Italian clubs don't have a pot to piss in? There's a lad on my Saturday team who played in the Portuguese second division and he makes more money here working in a kitchen.
Got nothing to do with the foreigners being better?

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My mate's dad is in that video, right near the end. Annoyingly I'm slightly out of frame.

Also Henry's presence in that video adds **** all, just stands there acting French.

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Got nothing to do with the foreigners being better?
Of course they're better, that is not the point being made. The point I am making is Spanish sides would pack their teams with foreigners if they could afford to, but they cannot. They make do on inferior local players out of necessity. Outside of Madrid, Atleti, Barca, Athletic, Valencia, Erreala and Sevilla the other teams are too poor to attract anybody but the cheapest foreign players.

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Of course they're better, that is not the point being made. The point I am making is Spanish sides would pack their teams with foreigners if they could afford to, but they cannot. They make do on inferior local players out of necessity. Outside of Madrid, Atleti, Barca, Athletic, Valencia, Erreala and Sevilla the other teams are too poor to attract anybody but the cheapest foreign players.
Most likely they would pack their sides with the Spaniards that are going abroad for the money.

But this isn't about club and leagues, this is about how the foreigners are better than the English footballers.

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