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The rules have been updated

The current set of rules hasn't been reviewed in years. So we decided to take a closer look at and below you'll find the results. This updated version of the rules will be used from now on. It can take a while before VS get off their ass and remove the old ones from the site though

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The aim of the Xtratime Community is to enable and promote global communication between different people from around the world sharing the same interests and passions. To enable this we have to have rules as any community has.

The rules are basically insights into getting the most out of your stay here; ease in and deepen the interaction across the forums and, very importantly, make sure YOU have as good a time here as you possibly can without ruining it for others.

Violation of any of these rules can resort in counter measures varying from posts being deleted, threads being closed, being blocked from a specific forum to a permanent ban from XT as a whole.

We hope you will help us in maintaining a positive atmosphere in the community.

1. Do not engage in an argument with any member in a topic that may pertain to race, religion, sex, disputable historic talk or politics. Sexually harassing others is also forbidden.

2. Do not post any flame threads in another forum. Friendly rivalry and banter is acceptable. XT Management wants discussions to flow, unless it generates into a useless, name calling thread that is going nowhere. Be passionate about a team in whatever means you would like to, but as far as possible, refrain from using vulgar language. Remember, do onto others what you want others to do onto you.

3. Topics that do not serve any purpose other than personal attacks against members and clubs will be edited, posts will be deleted and topics closed if necessary. Several threads of a similar if not identical theme will be merged so that opinions are not censored and etiquette is maintained.

4. Be considerate to the feelings of all members. What may seem humorous to some may be offensive to others. Be flexible and be ready to compromise. Try not to insult any member, Forum Manager, Community Manager or Administrator. When you encounter problems with other posters, refrain from using offending words in arguments, alert a FM, CM or Admin in stead or try and work it out via pm.

5. If you see a link that points to political sites, porn sites or fellow football forum sites, use the report button to report it. or ask a FM, CM or Admin.

6. Avatars, signatures and profile information have to be complicit with XT rules. Nothing pornographic, racist, disputable historical or political can be used. Anything even remotely close to that kind of stuff, or anything that can be seen as something like that will be removed. In the case of flags, flags of states recognized international organizations such as FIFA, UN or other sports organizations such as the Olympic Committee will be accepted, recognized flags of regions within these states are also acceptable. So for example the flag for the State of California is acceptable, however flags of regions not recognized internationally will not be accepted.

7. Private Messages are not moderated by the XT administration team and only the owners have access to this facility. However, if you feel harassed by the content of the PMs you have received you can inform management about the content, which will be judged, if there is a case of misconduct on the senders behalf and or if the privacy of a poster is in danger, then relative action will be taken by the CM/Admin team.

8. XT is an English forum and posts should be made in English. There is nothing wrong with a few posts in other languages here and there and also in specific language threads. But when it gets to the point English speakers cannot follow threads FMs will ask you proceed in English.

Also, insults and personal attacks in other languages will be treated the same as an English insult, so don't think you can use another language to insult and get away with it!

9. Using proxy servers to connect to XT is forbidden and will get you permanently banned. However, if you have a genuine reason why you cannot access Xtratime without a proxy then please contact a CM or Admin and they'll decide if you'll be allowed to use one.

10. Forum Managers are there to ensure the forums are staying within the community atmosphere and should be treated with respect. Any disputes should be dealt with via PMs. If outside assistance is required, contact a Community Manager or Administrator for help with the resolution. Community Managers and Administrators have the last say. period. The Administrators reserve the right to amend user account settings should the need arise.

11. We will not tolerate any form of advertising without prior approval of at least one Administrator. We have to pay our bills and if we allow advertising for free it follows that no one would want to pay for the same privileges.

12. When creating a new topic, please take care to create your topic in the appropriate forum. Sometimes a topic might logically be located in two or even three different places. Choose the one forum that you think most closely fits your topic. Never create a topic in more than one forum! Instead, place a short post in the second one and refer to the first via a link. If you create a new topic in a forum that is not the best choice, your topic may be moved to a better suited forum. However, this should only occur when your topic has obviously been misplaced. In most cases, you should see your topic in its previous forum with the word "Moved: " in front of it. Simply click on the topic name and you will be in the new forum.

13. Attempting to access another poster's account is considered hacking and will not be tolerated. Perpetrators will be banned.

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What are considered Problem Posts?
Posts/threads that have the following:
  • Ethnic/racial slurs
  • Political and/or religious conversations of any type, no matter whether it is a “clean” debate or a slanging match, there is zero tolerance to any political or religious talk, regardless the nature of the conversation.
  • Gender harassment
  • Explicit sexual talk
  • Excessive use of bad language for the purposes of insults and provocation

What should I do in the event a member of another forum enters my “home” forum with the sole intention of causing problems?

First of all, define “problem” or if there really is a problem. An outside observer sharing an honest opinion in a diplomatic and respectful way, and asking the opinion of the members of your forum is NOT a problem. Sometimes outsiders can see things or might make observations about a team that the team's fans may not have thought about. However, what IS a problem is when outsiders come to curse at or taunt the fans in your team's forum, to bash (totally destructive and rude criticism) the team in order to provoke members into equally nasty replies, etc. You can usually tell by the tone of such posts immediately.

It is suggested that you PM the moderator(s) of the instigator's forum (if unsure of home forum, try looking at the post history to see if that gives any clues) and ask them to PM the troublemaker. Also contact one or more of the CMs and ask them to look into the situation. You may also find that a CM may step in earlier if they spot the problem themselves.

What is the difference between a ban, bar and a block?

A ban is the procedure when a poster is permanently prevented access to the entire forum. Whilst a bar is when a user has their access to the entire forum prevented for a designated period of time. A Forum Block is when a users access rights to a specific forum is withdrawn, so that they cannot view or post in that individual forum.

What if someone who was banned or barred re-registers with a new name and continues to cause problems?

There has been situations where a poster who has been barred for a set amount of time has re-registered whilst still barred, when such a situation occurs the original bar of the poster is doubled and the alternate account is banned permanently. Also the use of alternate accounts to overcome a block in a specific forum or to troll/insult and provocate the boards results in a permanent ban for the alternate account and relative action taken against the poster, depedent on factors such as the repetition of these acts and past reputation.

My bar/ban was unfair, what should I do to defend myself?

You should contact a FM or CM and explain yourself. They will discuss the subject with the Administrators and you will have to wait. Just demanding a solution is not enough: we acknowledge the possibility of errors and the necessary amends for both sides.

Two members have been in the same heated argument, but each received a different punishment? Why?

Sometimes members are in the same argument, but do not use the same language or insults. But more important: the punishment in XT is progressive. Someone with a clean past will not suffer the same amount of punishment that a member with a past of troubles will receive. Obviously, a member who behaves for a long time after being a trouble maker, will also have the chance to receive a softer punishment.

How are FMs, CMs and Admins chosen?

There are different methods for choosing FMs:
1. Either the management team notices the need of a FM in a forum and seek out candidates among the regular members of that forum or
2. the members or FMs of that forum point out the necessity and do some suggestions.
The management team still can approve or not the names suggested based on the contribution of the member and his disciplinary record. CMs are chosen by the management among the more active FMs, Admins are picked from the current crop of CMs.

I want to change my name, how is it done?

You must post a request in this thread. Once it is changed, you can only request another change in 6 months. And to make sure everyone still knows who you are, it is required that your add something along the lines of "Formerly known as previous user name" to your sig for a while.

Why do I have to read all that crap? This guy knows nothing about football and his writing style is awful.

If the member is not breaking any rule, there is nothing we can do about it. XT is a place for everyone, not an academy which membership demands a particular degree of knowledge, including the English language. A regular member can however use the ignore function to not have to read what an annoying poster has to say. This is the way to add someone to your ignore list: Click on his user name, select "View public profile" and then click "Add this user to your ignore list".

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You seriously think that somebody is going to read that?
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That's what we're counting on. So we can do whatever the **** we want and just say "hey it's the rules!"
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High time the rules were updated. I think they were originally written by Bonita and Glen, back in 2001.

However, when it comes to this:

"Do not engage in an argument with any member in a topic that may pertain to race, religion, sex, disputable historic talk or politics"

I think it's going to be rather difficult to enforce, as it would imply that members cannot discuss racism in football (is a subject that may pertain to race), anything in the love and dating forum (may pertain to sex), or anything involving history, as that by its nature is often disputed. The history of a club such as Juventus, for example, has quite a lot of disputed claims about the manner in which they have emerged as scudetto winners.

I understand of course that is not what is intended, but strictly speaking it would be in violation of the rules. And if an exception is made, it could lead to trouble down the road, and could open the door for accusations about double standards.

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"What is “The Administrator has decided for X to be quiet” (ghosting)?

Occasionally you may see a deleted post which states “The Administrator has decided for X to be quiet” this is a ghosted post whereby a user is placed on the ignore list of every member by the Administrator, this is used primarily when a user has accumulated a long record of misdemeanours, its is primarily used as a lost port of call when a user who has been banned on several occasions but persists with re-registering and creating trouble. It is essential that this information is kept away from the public boards."

Regular members don't get to see the "The Administrator has decided for X to be quiet" message. A ghosted person's posts simply do not show up at all for them.

And if it is essential that this information is kept away from the public boards, it's probably not a good idea to post about it here in the announcement forum.

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You expect us to read all that? Give us the diff already.

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Maybe it's the same rules and they just changed the dates.

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You have a good point with the 2nd post Boyo chan Though generally the idiots that are ghosted generally dont read the rules, heck, who does?

Though the first post, football related exceptions are obvious (with clear discretions), and dont think anyone will complain of inconsistency when discussing issues relating to footie in a reasonable manner, like one would political stuff etc (way more heated and antagonistic).

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Maybe it's the same rules and they just changed the dates.
We would have done that If it wasnt for Styggy who did a brill job with updating the rules

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We all know what ghosting is anyway. No (further) harm, no foul.

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These rules are stupid. Any half decent competition law will ban them, alongside kissing. In free markets, they'll fall and turn to ashes in a matter of seconds.

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You expect us to read all that? Give us the diff already.
You'll notice the difference when we ban your sorry ass for violating one of the updated rules

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"What is “The Administrator has decided for X to be quiet” (ghosting)?

Occasionally you may see a deleted post which states “The Administrator has decided for X to be quiet” this is a ghosted post whereby a user is placed on the ignore list of every member by the Administrator, this is used primarily when a user has accumulated a long record of misdemeanours, its is primarily used as a lost port of call when a user who has been banned on several occasions but persists with re-registering and creating trouble. It is essential that this information is kept away from the public boards."

Regular members don't get to see the "The Administrator has decided for X to be quiet" message. A ghosted person's posts simply do not show up at all for them.

And if it is essential that this information is kept away from the public boards, it's probably not a good idea to post about it here in the announcement forum.
argh lol how could I overlook that. Thanks
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As long as my special rules still apply I've got now issue with these (possible) new rules.

Ghosting shouldn't be done though, at least not as long as the mystery page bug is still present.

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I'm afraid when I registered the rules were different, and as I agreed to those I only need to follow those.

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Are you sure you got it all?

Few things.
1. What's a proxy server?
2. I don't see CM's or Admins emails. When a person is barred or banned, you can't get an explanation via pm since you don't have access anymore.
3. What's ghosting?
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1. A proxy server is an internet server that you can connect to. You then can browse the internet using that server's ip in stead of your own, "anonymously" if you like. Logging on to XT using a proxy server is forbidden because it gives banned users the chance to come back without us noticing. But we know when someone's using a proxy so that person will be banned on the spot.

2. When you're barred/banned and try to log on to XT you see a message saying why you were banned. There's also the contact form if you want to talk to admins or cm's if you're banned.

3. Ghosting is when someone's posts are automatically made invisible. Only admins, cms and fms can see them. This is used to silence trolls. They think they can post but no one will respond to them because their posts are invisible.
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There should be. There's some pretty stiff rule violating going on there at the moment. People arguing about a topic that may pertain to sex.

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