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post #61 of 659 (permalink) Old March 14th, 2007, 14:04
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What if one replied to an old PM? It happens all the time!
Surely the Milan community doesn't have such absent minded members.

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Can we atleast try it for the ticketing thing? One of the CMs could be in the group as an observer, and if he/she come to conclusion that is does contradict CT community's values, then we can stop it.
It doesn't quite work that way. We can't just turn it on for the Milan forum alone. It would be on for everyone.

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post #62 of 659 (permalink) Old March 14th, 2007, 14:09 Thread Starter
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Surely the Milan community doesn't have such absent minded members.
Han nothing to do with mental health But it happens all the time; not only at XT, but everywhere!




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It doesn't quite work that way. We can't just turn it on for the Milan forum alone. It would be on for everyone.
I don't see any harm if it is going to be on a trial basis. Let the community decide whether it wants some privacy or not. After 1 or 2 month trial, we can have a public poll; upon which, a decision to shut down or continue such groups will be taken.

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And the added value of that would be?

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imagine if we had public groups when the XTLA were about :eekani:

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I don't see any harm if it is going to be on a trial basis. Let the community decide whether it wants some privacy or not. After 1 or 2 month trial, we can have a public poll; upon which, a decision to shut down or continue such groups will be taken.
XT just isn't the place for privacy, dab

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post #67 of 659 (permalink) Old March 14th, 2007, 15:55
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No one ever used this silly function (its a yahoo kinda function anyway) here in XT. Maybe you guys need it for this(though there are many other ways you can contact eachother), but XT on a whole doesnt. Its a useless function.

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u could just make a subforum under milan and maybe make it password protected which is possible.
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Is this like a Lenin version of the Internet?!! Let the community decide the value of such a feature. All I am asking for is a trial period upon which an informed decision would be taken.

If you fear that members will contribute more to the groups and post less in the public forums; then you have a valid point, but how can you make such a judgment? You can only do it, when you activate the feature and have some stat about average number of posts before and after activating the feature.

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XT just isn't the place for privacy, dab
Why then there is a PM service at XT? Shouldn't it be disabled too?

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No one ever used this silly function (its a yahoo kinda function anyway) here in XT.
How would anyone at XT use it when it is disabled you moron

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u could just make a subforum under milan and maybe make it password protected which is possible.
What's the difference between this and a public group?

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Is this like a Lenin version of the Internet?!! Let the community decide the value of such a feature. All I am asking for is a trial period upon which an informed decision would be taken.
There's no need for any such trial periods. I already know that it won't work. And don't pretend that you're doing this for the 'good of the community', as you only want it for the benefit for yourself and of a couple of other Milan fans.

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If you fear that members will contribute more to the groups and post less in the public forums; then you have a valid point, but how can you make such a judgment? You can only do it, when you activate the feature and have some stat about average number of posts before and after activating the feature.
I don't have to stick my hand in fire to know that it's hot. For the same reason, I don't have to enable the group function to know that it's a bad idea.

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There's no need for any such trial periods. Ialready know that it won't work. And don't pretend that you're doing this for the 'good of the community', as you only want it for the benefit for yourself and of a couple of other Milan fans.
I applaud your authority and experience

And I am not doing it for the community, I am doing it for myself, as you said, but I was not the one who dragged the community into the discussion in the first place!



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I don't have to stick my hand in fire to know that it's hot. For the same reason, I don't have to enable the group function to know that it's a bad idea.

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How would anyone at XT use it when it is disabled you moron
Because I have been a member for 6 and half years and never saw anyone use it. It was diasbled due to that proberly.

No one in XT used it, hence a useless function. And taking it back wouldnt do anything, serve any purpose. Amusing you try to make it sound like you are doing this for the sake of XT (leninist remark, like the community is being oppressed by disabling a useless function), while its for your own only. Just say so instead of twisting your words for nothing.

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i don't really know about this public groups and stuff but Boyo can you make a Milan forum without Inter fans and Osman

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Because I have been a member for 6 and half years and never saw anyone use it. It was diasbled due to that proberly.
Wrong! Here is why. https://www.xtratime.org/forum/showpo...42&postcount=2

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No one in XT used it, hence a useless function. And taking it back wouldnt do anything, serve any purpose. Amusing you try to make it sound like you are doing this for the sake of XT, while its for your own only. Just say so instead of twisting your words for nothing.
I've been direct since the begining. Please go back, read, then think twice before writing idiotic posts :thmbdown:

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i don't really know about this public groups and stuff but Boyo can you make a Milan forum without Inter fans and Osman
I couldn't even make Xtratime be aligned in the center.

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I was not the one who dragged the community into the discussion in the first place!
Funny. I seem to recall you saying something about having the community decide such things. Must be my imagination.

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