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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old March 24th, 2011, 22:04 Thread Starter
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Ok, so let's have a thread about this game.

We're playing against the midfield which is even slower than the one Inter has. We should win this one.
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old March 24th, 2011, 22:05 Thread Starter
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post #3 of 25 (permalink) Old March 24th, 2011, 22:09 Thread Starter
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Unfortunately Zahović's mindgames weakened Rannochia's knees. He won't be playing.
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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old March 24th, 2011, 22:12
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LOL.

But seriously, we should win this one.

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Maybe the next one.

nkm jinxing one of his teams once more.
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post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old March 26th, 2011, 00:01 Thread Starter
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I didn't say Slovenia will win, I said that we have to win. But the other time you didn't understand what figure of speech is, so...

Anyway, Kek playing his good old 4-4-2 FLAT, Iličić and Bačinović on the bench... What else could we expect than another 0:1 home loss...

The only good thing I've seen on the match was that fight between different Slovenian ultras, so it was worth going to the match after all. 5 minutes of pure fight before the police came, pure pleasure to watch.
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Maybe the next one.

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Great, now politely, fv ck off.

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sad to see you lose this match! Good luck for the rest of the qual!

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We're playing against the midfield which is even slower than the one Inter has. We should win this one.
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Meh!

BTW it looks like your midfielder is even slower than the one of Italy.
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Motta had to score aswell that damn slow player.

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Motta plays both for Inter and Italy so he has to be a kind of bradypus playing football.
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post #14 of 25 (permalink) Old March 26th, 2011, 12:52 Thread Starter
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Italy is much better than Slovenia right now, this is a fact. I said that we needed to win, but it was obvious that it would be hard.

The reason why Slovenia is so weak in this qualifications is the coach Matjaž Kek and his decisions. I'm not one of those fans who attack the coach after first dissapointment, but we have to accept the facts here. I respect him and I respect what he has done so far. He qualified on WC 2010 and that was an amazing achievement. I don't know if ANY other coach could have done that with the team he had. He built an amazing athmosphere and took the best out of players like Koren, Novaković, Birsa, Brečko etc. He built a team that reached its peak in 2010 but is now getting old and predictable. Also, it seems that the fighting spirit is not the same as it was before. Perhaps this is because most of the players have important roles in their clubs now, while in the previous years (especially in Katanec years) they were usually mostly sitting on the bench and had to show everything on national team matches. For example, yesterday, one of the players who actually fought was Kirm, who doesn't have a spot in first 11 in his club.

Midfield is getting old and is not ready to produce anything. But we do have alternatives which Kek is not using: Bačinović and Iličić. Kek is relying on the guys who brought us the WC 2010 and it looks like he wants to share his destiny with them. He doesn't accept the fact that 2008-10 was the highlight of this generation and significant changes are needed now. There is a new generation coming up with Iličić, Bačinović and Matavž and they have to get a chance. But I'm sure that Kek will be doing what he has been doing until now: put the usual first 11 in the team, play 4-4-2 and don't call anyone from Slovenian league. This worked extremely well for 2 years but now it's getting extremely hard for us to beat even teams like Estonia, let alone Italy or Serbia.

I think that Kek has to stay until 2012 whatever happens now (either it's total defeat or qualification for Euro, he has to go in 2012), then we need a new coach who would be ready to open a way for a new generation of Slovenian players. Kek is IMO the best NT coach so far but he shares the destiny with the generation of WC '10 which is getting older and older.

We were lucky with other results and with all the problems Serbia has had so far, so we are still in the race. We need that win in Belfast and then we need to win both of our matches at home. We certainly can't afford to lose to Serbia if we want that 2nd place.

In Belfast we should play like Maribor has played against Hibernian this summer, but knowing Kek it won't happen.

I think that 2010-12 will be remembered as transitional years for our NT, while from 2012 on the beforementioned 3 players will start a new history.
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sad to see you lose this match! Good luck for the rest of the qual!
Thanks man, good luck to you too, despite the loss today, I think you still have good chances to qualify.

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So is your mother, now sod off.

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Midfield is getting old and is not ready to produce anything. But we do have alternatives which Kek is not using: Bačinović and Iličić. Kek is relying on the guys who brought us the WC 2010 and it looks like he wants to share his destiny with them. He doesn't accept the fact that 2008-10 was the highlight of this generation and significant changes are needed now. There is a new generation coming up with Iličić, Bačinović and Matavž and they have to get a chance. But I'm sure that Kek will be doing what he has been doing until now: put the usual first 11 in the team, play 4-4-2 and don't call anyone from Slovenian league. This worked extremely well for 2 years but now it's getting extremely hard for us to beat even teams like Estonia, let alone Italy or Serbia.

I think that Kek has to stay until 2012 whatever happens now (either it's total defeat or qualification for Euro, he has to go in 2012), then we need a new coach who would be ready to open a way for a new generation of Slovenian players. Kek is IMO the best NT coach so far but he shares the destiny with the generation of WC '10 which is getting older and older.

We were lucky with other results and with all the problems Serbia has had so far, so we are still in the race. We need that win in Belfast and then we need to win both of our matches at home. We certainly can't afford to lose to Serbia if we want that 2nd place.

In Belfast we should play like Maribor has played against Hibernian this summer, but knowing Kek it won't happen.

I think that 2010-12 will be remembered as transitional years for our NT, while from 2012 on the beforementioned 3 players will start a new history.
I agree, first of all, Koren has to go. And maybe also Dedič, Radosavljevič and even Birsa for a while.

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post #19 of 25 (permalink) Old March 26th, 2011, 22:09 Thread Starter
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It won't happen under Kek. Radosavljevič and Dedič would perhaps be dropped out of first 11 for a game or two, but Koren always plays in first 11 when he's fit... And Bačinovič sits on the bench...

Some people were against replacing Koren with Bačinovič saying that we can't play with two DM... But realistically speaking, what does Koren play in last matches if not a DM? He didn't help the attack much, he didn't hold the ball and create space like Iličič does. So I'm all for replacing Koren with Iličič on that CM position. Koren is too passive during attack and when in defence he also doesn't help much. So he's not even playing a DM - he is not playing anything. Yesterday I watched him for few minutes and he didn't do anything. Just walked/ran cluelessly near that circle in the middle of the field. Bačinovič would have at least been tackling Italian players.

Birsa IMO is good player for 30-60 minutes, but certainly isn't some kind of key player on which the team can rely for 90 minutes.

Dedič could have been a great player but is unfortunately wasting his career in Bochum.

P.S.: Don't mind those Italian clowns. They are always behaving like children when they actually win something. Just look at Deano for example. He experienced so many defeats in Roma he has to support Inter in CL.
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P.S.: Don't mind those Italian clowns. They are always behaving like children when they actually win something. Just look at Deano for example. He experienced so many defeats in Roma he has to support Inter in CL.
No worries, I just hope WalterBC comes online soon and cleans their shit.

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