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post #661 of 894 (permalink) Old April 18th, 2019, 09:47
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Yes, but it was intentionally deflected.
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I genuinely think this Liverpool is more inspired and better then Barca. Not sure if its enough to stop Messi tho, but Liverpool are better unit defensively, more energetic midfield, more potent attack etc.

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Everyone said the same about Real Madrid last season. But superior quality and experience paid off in the end.

Granted that didn't help Juve against Ajax, and Karius isn't there to gift 2 goals this time around, but Barca have had their own share of blind luck over the years.

I also think people underestimate Rakitic and Busquets, just because they are part of the furniture. They are both far superior to any midfielder Liverpool have. Arthur is also a superb player IMO.

Although Inter are not the barometer for anything in Europe, I watched them get so comphrenensively outplayed by Barca in the autumn that is was almost like watching two teams from different sports or age groups....

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Yes, but it was intentionally deflected.
Sure, but not intentionally directed where it went. The player tried to block Eriksen's pass and had no control at all where the ball went from the tip of his foot.

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I don't mind Spurs and I didn't mind Man City either, but I'm firmly rooting for Ajax at this point. And an Ajax - Barça or Ajax - Liverpool would be a classic Champions League affair.

Ajax v Barca would be orgasmic football...

I think Barca v Liverpool is evenly balanced, this Barca team in my view is vulnerable to being mauled especially if they go 1-0 down, look at the Man U game in camp nou how Rashford was 1on1 within 65 seconds, so in Anfield will be hell for them and can go 2-0 down easily especially they are shit in defending set pieces...

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Yeah, but this applies: A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.

Eriksen intentionally passed the ball back and it was only deflected, not intentionally passed by the City player.
It does not apply. Eriksen didnt pass/touch the ball to Aguero, who is the player in offside position. As the rule says, the deflection already counts and nowhere in the rule there is expressions such "not intentionally passed". What matter is the intention to play the ball, not to direct, control, pass, etc.

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It does not apply. Eriksen didnt pass/touch the ball to Aguero, who is the player in offside position. As the rule says, the deflection already counts and nowhere in the rule there is expressions such "not intentionally passed". What matter is the intention to play the ball, not to direct, control, pass, etc.
I disagree and so do experts in various football shows. Btw, there are also pundits saying it was correctly disallowed, just to be clear here. I am not sure the rule is clear on this situation.

Eriksen definitely passed the ball back (which was stupid and out of panic but no way unintentional). So the pass came from a Tottenham player. The fact that it got deflected does not mean the pass came from a Man City player suddenly.

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It seems though that the touch alone is enough to make it offside. I still remember scenes when it was not given in the same situations, but apparently it is the correct call.

I am still not sure I like the rule but it is what it is then...

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But then you have the Greatest Player of All Time in fine form upfront, but Hemderson-Milner could kick the hell out of him and frustrate him.
lol.
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It seems though that the touch alone is enough to make it offside. I still remember scenes when it was not given in the same situations, but apparently it is the correct call.

I am still not sure I like the rule but it is what it is then...
There is nothing to disagree or not, the text of the rule do not mention intention to pass, but to play the ball and distinctly mentions played and touched. The ball was touched by the city player between Erikson and Aguero? Yes.

But really, this kind of interpretation was somehow recently. perhaps 3 years or so.
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lol.
Liverpool defense as most defenses in the world are not something to be proud of.

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How much did Laporte cost City?

Last night he gifted Spurs the first 2 goals and was also involved in Llorente's decisive goal (though it was a lucky one, admittedly. Ball bounced off Llorente)

Pep failing to win the CL post Barca and Messi failing to win outside of Barca is really a testament for Barca's greatness tbh.

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I think the winner of the Barca-Liverpool tie will lift the trophy. Ajax/Spurs will feel more tension in a final, while Liverpool were there last season and Barca have the know how in CL. So either Salah or Messi will win CL. And one of them will win ballon d'Or.

On a separate note, I wasn't really impressed with Ederson in the City-Spurs tie.

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How much did Laporte cost City?

Last night he gifted Spurs the first 2 goals and was also involved in Llorente's decisive goal (though it was a lucky one, admittedly. Ball bounced off Llorente)

Pep failing to win the CL post Barca and Messi failing to win outside of Barca is really a testament for Barca's greatness tbh.
It really is a very small sample size for that, considering how small the national team tournaments are and how there isn't really anytime nowadays to build cycles for national teams.

But Messi does need to win without Xavi and Iniesta to put to rest the Xaviniesta dependency debates to rest. If he can carry this team to the CL glory, with a cadaverous Suarez and pretty much on the downhill Busquets and Rakitic, it will be his finest achievement in a Barca shirt.

And about Barcas testament, we will see what happens after Messi retires. But the stats so far without Messi- 1 CL/Champions Cup, with Messi - 4 CLs.

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The 2006 one counts as non-Messi obviously.

He played 1 leg in that run, in the Round of 16 tie.
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And Xavi wasn't a factor in the 2015 CL win either.
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The 2006 one counts as non-Messi obviously.

He played 1 leg in that run, in the Round of 16 tie.
But a very important leg in that run, one could argue he was decisice against one of the best teams in the world that year and was very good in the group stages as well.

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And Xavi wasn't a factor in the 2015 CL win either.
Yup, but Iniesta was sensational and Suarez was running on all cylinders in that one as well. MSN + Iniesta were too much for anyone to handle that year.

Iniesta in the two legs against PSG was as close to perfection as one could get.

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But it is PSG, even Valencia is bigger than PSG. We should consider achivements against PSG on the same scale as achivements against Basel and even bellow Roma.
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How much did Laporte cost City?

Last night he gifted Spurs the first 2 goals and was also involved in Llorente's decisive goal (though it was a lucky one, admittedly. Ball bounced off Llorente)

Pep failing to win the CL post Barca and Messi failing to win outside of Barca is really a testament for Barca's greatness tbh.

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Liverpool defense as most defenses in the world are not something to be proud of.

As in conceded 1 goal in 180 minutes against Bayern Munich....lol

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