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Just noticed it has some 127,000 pages in latin.

https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegyptus

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old December 3rd, 2015, 15:21
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I sometimes lament not having read vergil or indead the death of virgil, but then i shake myself, it's useless knowledge, it can even make you dumber, much like XT.

I heard someone suggest the British focus on the classics as opposed to the German focus on technical sciences is what almost got the brits defeated twice (a participant in melvyn bragg's in our time, i believe).
She even may be right, now more than ever, what with asian century, the western canon buried.
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I must add, not having read Virgil is a flaw of character, even if you can only read the crapest translation around. See what it did to Ezra Pound.

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I sometimes lament not having read vergil or indead the death of virgil, but then i shake myself, it's useless knowledge, it can even make you dumber, much like XT.

I heard someone suggest the British focus on the classics as opposed to the German focus on technical sciences is what almost got the brits defeated twice (a participant in melvyn bragg's in our time, i believe).
She even may be right, now more than ever, what with asian century, the western canon buried.
You're not necessary an average Brit or German, and you spend some time on XT which you could use for other studies, so no one is asking to study one thing at the exclusion of the other.
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Well, since I'm over 30, any new study would only be a hobby at best anyway.

I used to believe translations of classics were better and truer the older they were (e.g. the recent 1990s translation of the Odysse uses the good Danish words "grill" and "kebab" ). But at some point I was convinced by conventional wisdom, that a classic must be translated every 40 years. First "wave" of translations happened in the 19th century by Romantics and post-romantics and it's really just like reading Danish literature from that period, not sure Pound would've liked those anyway.

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Pound would probally prefer them to Virgil, as he always said Virgil was a bad poet saved by the translators.

Anyways, classics translations is a matter of choice. Some modern translations may give you something new to chew. There is also the matter of a give country actually developing a decent translation tradition. Until thr 50s, for example, Homer translations are made in portugal or too similar to portuguese versions. I like George Chapman translations, mostly because the english style, close to Shakespeare, in the middle of Milton blank verse translation, pre-romantic. I also like to compare the translations of classic authors, like Elizabeth Barret translation of Prometheus, but it is just because i like her poems overall.

At any rate, new translations means more chances for reading a classic, in a new way.

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Recent New Yorker cartoon.



Good idea, not the best/funniest execution.

There is only one "poet" in all of Denmark (sic) who can actually read Latin these days, not sure about his Greek. Small country. Luckily, the guy who did the kebab translation was actully quite awesome, and did all of Ovid + Homer + the Aeneid + a some Greek dramas before he died a few years back, so that's enough classics for me for the next 30 years. And he came up with (or may have been Ovid) one of my most often used lines.. asked whether he'd rather be handsome/boring or ugly/funny he said the latter, since you can keep being funny as you get old.

But yes, I must improve my fascism and read the Aeneid instead of XT.

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Virgil will save you.

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