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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old October 13th, 2013, 16:34 Thread Starter
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da best buk[z] on wrld history

witch is da best buk u hv red nd wud recommend fr world history?

i m plannin on readin all of hobsbawm'z bukz [i hv red his buk frm 1789-1848] butt i feel like i shud read a buk dat gives me da factual history properly as well and then delve in2 hobsbawm.any suggestionz fr this?

butt really i jst wana no wat r da best bukz out there on wrld history and i guess startin frm da 1700s wud b good enough


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Don't lament the treachery of time;
long have dogs danced over the carcasses of lions.

Don't suppose that their dancing raises them above their masters;
for dogs remain dogs, and lions remain lions.

Insult me as you wish;
For my silence to the depraved is a response.

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fatso, why are you reading this far-left, Socialist/Communist re-imagination of history?


i m into sadistik porn 2 mang i guess i jst need 2 go da extra mile 2 feel anythng these dayz

temme da bukz i shud read


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I havent read many books on world history, not in English anyway. I don't know what the standard works are.

Perhaps the most famous book isnt written by a historian..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel

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I havent read many books on world history, not in English anyway. I don't know what the standard works are.

Perhaps the most famous book isnt written by a historian..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel

ye iv herd lotz bout it.i recently red a buk called "y nationz fail" where they wer discussin certain theoriez given by jared diamond in gunz,germz nd steel.

i hated da book though although jared diamond said he red it in 1 go and it was a page turner

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I prefer Niall Ferguson's books too.

Stop complaining and help fatso out.

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niall fergie also praised y nationz fail :shakepalm:


da ascent of money den?i m thinkin perhapz i shud jst watch da u tube vid of it instead of reading it or empire rise nd fall of ze brits?

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Yes, Fats, the youtube will be almost just as good. The jest of his arguments can be gotten from those... there are some lectures and talks out there he did about his Civilisation: The West and the Rest too. The book which wass sort of a criticism of JAred Diamond. He focuses on ideas and institutions (the "killer apps") rather than geography.

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ah dats wat acemoglu and robinson were criticising as well in y nationz fail.they said dat it wasnt geography like diamond suggstz butt inclusiv institutionz, ideaz nd creative destruction dat make countriez/empires fail


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nobdy bean readin no history den



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@fats: Let me go through my collection and start recommending books in the next couple of days. You might also wanna divert El Wolf's attention here too, he's got a pretty sick reading list as well.
Help this man out, he must be trapped inside the labyrinth of his library.

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Help this man out, he must be trapped inside the labyrinth of his library.
and he likes Crespo a lot...this opens the possibility of being a blind like Borges.

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cmon nacka firdy fangio wat r sum gud bukz on history uv red lately geis ..... cud b anythang as well

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I have three Robert Fisk books, and I'm trying to get thru them.

My anxiety doesn't let me read properly.

Don't lament the treachery of time;
long have dogs danced over the carcasses of lions.

Don't suppose that their dancing raises them above their masters;
for dogs remain dogs, and lions remain lions.

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I've read the 4 Hobsbawm books mentioned by fats in the OP &, while it's been about 6 years, I thoroughly enjoyed them. I'll also point out that I hadn't actually heard of Hobsbawm at the time & had no idea he was a Marxist, seeing as that seems to bother some folk. Actually, I could be inspired to re-read them if I haven't put them into the charity shop.

As for other broad world history books, don't think I've really read much on that topic, certainly not for that time period. Sorry fats, cannae help.

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Icebreaker and other books by Viktor Suvorov (for those who want to learn the true history of World War II and how Hitler saved Europe from Stalin's invasion by launching Operation Barbarossa)

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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I need to read that. Sounds properly mental.

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It's actually based on extensive (although somewhat cherry-picked) written accounts, mostly from the memoirs and other public accounts of high-ranking Russian military officers.

He might be wrong in his assessment that it was only a question of couple of weeks by which Hitler beat the start of Stalin's offensive (which was in reality probably supposed to happen later, in 1942-43) but there's little doubt that Stalin did view Hitler as "icebreaker" who hopefully concentrates on the Western front and allows him to come up the rear and take Europe. Hence the huge military output of USSR's military-industrial complex which wasn't really geared to the interests of defensive war but rather to a continental-scale offensive campaign.

The reason why the general idea behind Suvorov's work has been largely ignored or discredited is obvious if you take into account the political climate...it was out of fashion by the late 80s to go after the historical crimes of Soviet Union. With the perestroika and new openness towards the West etc.

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