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View Poll Results: Greatest German-language novelist?
Franz Kafka 3 20.00%
Thomas Mann 2 13.33%
Heinrich Böll 1 6.67%
Lion Feuchtwanger 0 0%
Alfred Döblin 0 0%
Erich Maria Remarque 1 6.67%
Günther Grass 0 0%
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 6 40.00%
Elfriede Jelinek 0 0%
Hermann Hesse 1 6.67%
Elias Canetti 0 0%
Robert Musil 0 0%
Robert Walser 0 0%
Joseph Roth 0 0%
Arno Schmidt 1 6.67%
Hermann Broch 0 0%
Anna Seghers 0 0%
Max Frisch 0 0%
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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old March 11th, 2012, 10:12 Thread Starter
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Who is the best German-language novelist of all time?

So here we go again...managed to came up with the list of 18 names but I must say I have not read many of these people and I'm sure I've missed a ton of names so admins and mods feel free to add new options.

Personally I voted for Böll...I guess Kafka has been more important for me but will get a lot of votes anyway and Böll is my favourite humanist voice in fiction after Vonnegut.

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1. Messi
2. Herta Müller
3. Ernst Jünger

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Morierinho have you actually read Arno Schmidt? he sounds like an interesting writer but I haven't gotten around to read him yet.

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wtf is this forum completely dead now?

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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Kafka is the only one I've read. Like a lot.

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Andy, you should try something from Bernhard.
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never heard of him before...one of his novels (Frost) has been translated to Estonian, maybe I'll give it a try

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When it comes to writing Stefan Zweig should be the winner. He's simply outstanding. You should read the Chess Novel.

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I hate Kafka. I don't get what is so good about him. I am sure that some authors can do the same as Kafka but more subtly, within a larger story.
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Morierinho have you actually read Arno Schmidt? he sounds like an interesting writer but I haven't gotten around to read him yet.

Some of it.. not that big monster thing, but i suspect it's the same. Simple James Joyce = Flann O'brien. In German (i read danish translations).

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I hate Kafka. I don't get what is so good about him. I am sure that some authors can do the same as Kafka but more subtly, within a larger story.

He's good at syntax.

But I guess his themes have been abused and left in a parking lot.. outside of a Depeche Mode concert.. countless times.

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Kafka is the only one I've read. Like a lot.
What a surprise! You should get some Kerouac novels. Won't harm you! Or to stick to German writers, maybe Hesse?

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Wha- no WG Sebald? Rings of Saturn, bitchez!

And didn't Elias Canetti write in Ladino, which was then translated into German? (Granted I was told this by someone who is descended from Salonika Sephardim and thus has a dog in this particular hunt, so to speak, but this is what I've heard.)

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hard to vote when you can't read German... Remarque is a bit lucky to be on that list no? all told, I'm sure most of his audience never read his original version.

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I have read on wikipedia that Goethe is the most celebrated German author of all time. I have gotten the Ebook for Faust. I might try a few pages. Any comments on this?
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Well, of course Goethe is the most celebrated author. He's the Superman of German literature. You didn't know that? Most of the guys on this list grew up learning about Goethe's achievements.

I just noticed that one guy is missing on that list, it's Schiller. He was Goethe's friend and is very often mentioned alongside him.

Bertold Brecht is missing as well.

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I don't think that's true.

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I just noticed that one guy is missing on that list, it's Schiller. He was Goethe's friend and is very often mentioned alongside him.

Bertold Brecht is missing as well.
they're not novelists

had i included poets and playwrights it would've been too much really

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Right!

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Article about A Sokurov's recent Faust movie.
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/review/68330

I found Goethes Faust rather boring when I tried reading it. In late teens I thought one was supposed to read Goethe stuff, so I did get through Elective Affinities and The Sorrows of Werther. Wilhelm Meister is another famous novel by him.

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