What about a thread for Japanese writers. - Xtratime Community
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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old February 18th, 2011, 15:27 Thread Starter
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What about a thread for Japanese writers.

This is probably a woeful list, I've thrown together some authors whom I like and others with some notable works:

Natsume Soseki
Junichiro Tanizaki
Yasunari Kawabata
Ryunosuke Akutagawa
Kenzaburo Oe
Yukio Mishima
Kobo Abe
Shusaku Endo
Masuji Ibuse
Fumiko Enchi
Shohei Ooka
Osamu Dazai

Can I include... Haruki Murakami

OK, who can help me with this list.

By the way, I really like Tanizaki [Some Prefer Nettles, Makioka Sisters], Endo [Wonderful Fool, The Sea and Poison], Soseki [Kokoro, wonderful!], Dazai [No Longer Human], etc. Endo seems underrated to me compared to the other names but he was nominated multiple times for the Noble and he was lauded by Graham Greene. He wrote from the interesting perspective as a Japanese Catholic and won the Akutagawa prize for The Sea and The Poison.

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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old February 18th, 2011, 15:40
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A simple list is boring. I'd like to read something about them and their work. It should be some kind of introduction to Japanese literature. Now that would be interesting. I don't know anybody from the list yet.

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I'm sorry to go against your wish, Jeff, of undeleting this thread. It's a perfectly good topic and it's time for us to know a little more about the unfamiliar.

Folks, if you want to know more about the writers mentioned, you may:
1. Look them up in wikipedia
2. Borrow or buy their books, and read them.
3. Ask your fellow forumers


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Well, we can think what we will ask here, but the best novelist of Japan or China is tricky, their prose-novel tradition is older and more steady than european. Also, I think the literary form from japan with greatest international influence is the short poetry, specially hai-kais.

Rahzel, Tanizaki has a short book, a treatise, Defense of Shadow, Elougy... cannt tell the english name, but it is a great simplification of the concerns of Japanese modernism. If you want to start, I would go with him, Soseki and Akutugawa.

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Kobo Abe is the only one from whom I've read more than 1-2 books. Excellent writer. Kawabata is good too.

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Apart from Murakami, I think I only ever read a Danish collection of poems by Shuntaro Tanikawa that someone recommended.

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Apart from Murakami's works, I've read:

Strangers by Yamada Taichi
Battle Royale by Takami Koshun
Out, Grotesque and Real World by Kirino Natsuo
Ring and Spiral by Suzuki Koji

And I know Ishiguro Kazuo is a British citizen, but I've always preferred to consider him as a Japanese writer (who writes in English).

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Jeff, what's your favourite non-Japanese thing?

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And I know Ishiguro Kazuo is a British citizen, but I've always preferred to consider him as a Japanese writer (who writes in English).
this only applies about his first two novels...after this he's definitely a British (or maybe an European) writer.

The Unconsoled is maybe my favourite book of all time, brilliant work.

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this only applies about his first two novels...after this he's definitely a British (or maybe an European) writer.
I mean the fact that he's ethnic Japanese, not the nature of his novels.

I consider A Pale View of Hills his best work.

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It's not easy as I have a lot of interests and they're constantly shifting which can be frustrating in a way.

I read about The Unconsoled and it sounds brilliant. It seems difficult, though, a book where you either realise the genius behind it all or remain completely lost while passing through the labyrinth.

I haven't read any books by Kobo Abe but The Box Man, The Face of Another and Woman in the Dunes all sound excellent.

Definitely some of the next authors and books I'd like to check out.

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Been wanting to read Kobo Abe after I saw the excellent movie adaptation of Woman in the Dunes (which he also wrote the screenplay for).

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I know this may not be the exact place for this but fellow *bookies* please join me in mourning for those who lost their lives; their loved ones; and those injured in the 8.9 earthquake that hit Japan earlier today.

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Anyone read the book: Cloud of sparrows by Takashi Matsuoka? Its a samurai book in the style of Clavells Shogun but much better Imo. One of.my.favorite books of all time

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Anyone read the book: Cloud of sparrows by Takashi Matsuoka? Its a samurai book in the style of Clavells Shogun but much better Imo. One of.my.favorite books of all time
Yes, I've read it and I enjoyed it as well. You should also read "The Last Samurai - The Life and Battles of Saigo Takamori" by Mark Ravina.

Shuichi Yoshida deserves a mention as well in this thread. He has written 9 books, but only one of them has been translated into English, which is the one titled "Villain". It's definitely worth reading.

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Yes, I've read it and I enjoyed it as well. You should also read "The Last Samurai - The Life and Battles of Saigo Takamori" by Mark Ravina.

Shuichi Yoshida deserves a mention as well in this thread. He has written 9 books, but only one of them has been translated into English, which is the one titled "Villain". It's definitely worth reading.
Thnx I shall see if I can find the book you mentioned allways love reading books bout Samurai

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I read Dazai's No Longer Human last month...can't say i enjoyed it but it was a powerful book and very different in its self-deprecation from anything else I've read.

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I enjoyed it, weirdly enough. Well, maybe 'enjoy' is the wrong word. But it totally engrossed me.

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I enjoyed it, weirdly enough. Well, maybe 'enjoy' is the wrong word. But it totally engrossed me.
it was largely autobiographical apparently and soon after he killed himself...he might've been one of the most extraordinary writers ever in the way his mind worked. I don't think he was mentally ill as such but he was definitely "out of it" when it came to fitting into society and enjoying human relations.

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