Originally Posted by Fangio
I'm just generous
Another way to be atleticano, be generous, specially with things you do not have.
People get married, Bioy got married "a la Bioy"...a more elastic situation...
that only means he was civilian aristocratic and Borges a militar aristocratic... there is of course another reason why Bioy was a bit less aristocratic than Borges, which is the fact Borges was so close, his friend and partner. There is no much space for two suns, Bioy probally knew it, probally a less blind person than Borges was, that is why he was more able to portrait characters in his books than Borges, who was only able to use ideas as characters (or himself of course, but then Borges is an idea to himself), but of course it is not saying he was not aristrocratic (Cortazar was very ariostocratic also, but in a different way).
What you are saying is partly correct (even more than partly at some extent), more than anything you are telling the Europe and many argie intelligentzia self congratulate witty conception and very own auto projection form both writers, but at some point is closer to the Di Stefano is spanniard, Sivori italian and Messi is Catalan, notion..
Yes, but then, it make sense 100, 200 (or more sense if no sense at all) to not be anything from Latin America and be French, English, maybe italian and spanish, or german.
Is more like both were thinking "I'm an argie wanting to be recognize by the metropoli to show how much argie I am anyway, even if I know there is no such thing as being argie and if exists it doesn't matter that much at all, even when matters to me"...
Could be, altough in Borges case he was after all educated in europe, and have those roots and the strong prejudice against anything not european, save for the few exceptions. He would make Bastin proud, with all the misconceptions of the great Empire and that was probally the greatest joke of all, when the century turned, the most knowledable english writer was not english at all.
As Cortazar, everyone goes to Paris, who can blame him? But how much of his options I wonder are a way to not walk the path Borges walked, it suits him so well, almost as If both of them combined "Lets mock the europeans and their petty rivalirities. I will pretend to be English and you will pretend to be french and we are both going to deal with the same universe but lets pretend you do not like me and I will still like you just like the british empire liked every people they conquered?"
Also never forget that Borges and Cortazar are perhaps monsters of marketing, they knew what was need to slowly and in a solid way consolidate an image, an stereotype of the "non-stereotype" and weird, mysterious fella, wht the world might need of them...mainly in such battles, the field was a literature one...
Trully, Borges only became good with his marketing late in his life, when he was too blind and too tired. Then all he did was to polish the same texts that would increase the image of literary icon he had and his inclination for the pathetic intelectual prisioner of his own wit.
Bioy fought in other field, life...
Life allways imposed to Bioy, even with him being radically a vouyear, a literature personna, even being lost in his nationality identity like any argie.
As Bioy, I said, I did not read much of him as I read about Borges. For once I think he enjoyed a gamble as much as Borges, allowing him to be Borges's Watson and wating for a quite generous crumb left by his "master", just like Borges claiming Bioy teached him to be a classical writer. Watever Borges is claiming about the meaning of classic, nothing of that made any sense, if Borges had really learnt anything from Bioy he would have find ways to write more long texts because since day one Borges was a classical writer. Perhaps was deluded to think he was not, but certainly this shows a bit like how their relation should be. And I think it would not be an easy think to be a friend of Borges because all the humbleness and modesty of Borges seems something he crafted for the public.
That is why I would like to see the non-fictional texts of Bioy, he seems to me to enjoy the position of distance, the observer, as you said, a vouyer, even in those literary matters. This kind of mind may not bring up revolutions but usually discovers one or another great truth.
Is his life, and how life exudes from him in a classic literature stylish writing, what makes him appealing...Borges knew it, Cortazar knew it, almost every writer after him knows it...once the pretentions of nationalities are blown, the desires of fame, metropoli and homeland recognition too...who doesn't want to be Bioy conquering with ease the only land that is worth conquering...the female skin and their moody mind...
His life under the shadow of other writers, his admiration for other writers and desire of being a great writer himself, are only things that allows us (the rest of humanity) to sleep in peace.
You know, that could be the description of Borges or Cortazar as well
After all Bioy had his demons too, he wasn't all that "perfect", full and so IN life like we thougth, but damn he was closer than us...pretentious bastard...