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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old October 11th, 2006, 16:29 Thread Starter
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So, Who Gets The Nobel?

The question should probably be phrased as "Who's been lobbying hardest for it this year?" Who's been sending out nice gift baskets?


Actually, they bet on this in the UK (I think they'll lay a fiver on just about anything there) and Syrian poet Adonis is the front runner. Well, there have been troubles in the middle east.

I predict a South Korean winner, however.
Or Phillip Roth.

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Actually, they bet on this in the UK (I think they'll lay a fiver on just about anything there) and Syrian poet Adonis is the front runner. Well, there have been troubles in the middle east.
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I predict a South Korean winner, however.
Or Phillip Roth.
This being the litterature award, peeps might be inclined to think that enough political gifts have been bestowed on South Korea though, and as every single winner in science have been American - one could imagine that the lit folks would not go Roth - irrespective of the themes in The Plot Against America (and really... when I see Don DeLillo and Pynchon on that list I find Roth an UNACCEPTABLE candidate, but that's never been an obstacle of course ) .

Weird to see a Dane (Inger Christensen, 71 years old) on the list who I never really read... but she's supposed to be amazing. Unfortunately I don't really get poetry.

Sentimental choice: Murakami.
Rational choice: Orhan Pamuk.

...and no, I have no.. absolutely no idea who this Adonis-poet is. Quite the name for a poet though. If he plays the sax too I imagine he's human pheromone.

Then again - perhaps not.
http://www.aucegypt.edu/News/images/adonis_lg.jpg

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Orhan Pamuk is my guess as well.
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Aha the Adonis guy really exists. Honestly, I thought Heather had made that name up
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Glen, we should have made that bet. It's Orhan Pamuk

I only red two books of his 'Snow' and 'My name is Red' and I adored them both.
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Yep - read the same two, and I feel the same.

However - he's getting it because of his comments on the Armenian genocide and the legal threats he's receiving, and I cannot help but think that others were more deserving.

Still - good for him.

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Aha the Adonis guy really exists. Honestly, I thought Heather had made that name up
Shows how much you know, Proboscis Grandus. :thmbdown:

Yep, it was Pamuk. His gift basket was prime. Had kebab in it.

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Yep - read the same two, and I feel the same.

However - he's getting it because of his comments on the Armenian genocide and the legal threats he's receiving, and I cannot help but think that others were more deserving.
With this, Nobel Prize Discussions are going to be soon, forbidden in XT

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Oh... just to relativize my cynicism, I think Pamuk is a much, much more justifiable selection in terms of litterary accomplishment than Pinter, Jelinek and Goetzee were in the past three years.

It's just very hard not to think that the political aspects made the choice easy for the comittee, among a number of equally deserving options.

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Yep - read the same two, and I feel the same.

However - he's getting it because of his comments on the Armenian genocide and the legal threats he's receiving, and I cannot help but think that others were more deserving.

Still - good for him.

This is right, the turkish section had hell break loose yesterday as many of us see it as a slap in the face.
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Oh... just to relativize my cynicism, I think Pamuk is a much, much more justifiable selection in terms of litterary accomplishment than Pinter, Jelinek and Goetzee were in the past three years.

It's just very hard not to think that the political aspects made the choice easy for the comittee, among a number of equally deserving options.
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Not knowing this one writer and only a handfull of the names in that list (Which make me think, Pynchon was a more than obvious and deserving name of those I know) I can not say much about the winner, but I am rather gladly i can not and I can just be careless with what I say about nobels

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These comments make it sound like Pamuk is an average writer which is just bs.
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And he didn't win... again.

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Not granting me the Nobel Prize has become a scandinavian tradition; since i was born -August 24, 1899- they have not been granting it to me.

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Well, congratulations to Orhan Pamuk... though I've never heard of him. O_O

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I was pleased it was Pamuk. I absolutely loved his book My Name Is Red

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My application was rejected once again. Happens every year.

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I have actually not read anything from Orhan Pamuk. I know it sounds strange considering my background, but could anyone care to elaborate more about his way of writing, and his topics. I know he has brought up civilrights in Turkey, especially considering the kurdish minority and he has also condemned the armenian genocide. But I would like to know what makes him different from other authors. What is it that makes him so great??
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I read 'snow' about a year ago and now I've almost finished 'My name is red'. Having read 1.75 books of Pamuk's books I must say he is a very good author.

His thing is to mix two cultures - which is also the theme of 'My name is red' - as no other writer (Elif Shafak is good as well, but she doesn't come close to Pamuk). He mixes Western elements of literature with Eastern (Muslim?) aspects. Normally I'm not too fond of the poetic (esoteric) Asian/Arab writings, but due to the recognisable Western part of his books, Pamuk makes me like that as well. And what is more: this way of writing even gives you a glint of understanding that other Culture. For example: even though it has nothing to do with it, having read 'Snow' I have the feeling that I understands Turkey's position towards the EU better. I think only the best writers can do this.
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