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post #41 of 69 (permalink) Old October 7th, 2018, 16:26
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With all due respect, this is complete nonsense. At the prime of Georges St. Pierre people expressing that kind of opinions were laughed about. Now people heard about that Irishman and judge a sport based on a handful of fights.
I just presented what I see as someone that dont follow this.
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Well, regardless of the post-fight brawl disaster, it was an entertaining event overall. The fight made it to the 4th round. No 1st or 2nd round KOs or submissions. Both guys were aggressive from the get go. Moving forward most of the time. Connor threw in some good strikes and Khabib threw a few good strikes of his own. Obvious sht talking during the match, smile by Connor near the end of the 1st, a slap at one point by Khabib out of anger. Eventually Khabib's grapple/ground game took over. eventually. The post-fight brawl might have been a bit of a surprise, it was provoked but perhaps it was just a $$$ move by Khabib to grant him a future rematch and more fights? Money is more important than the fight itself in combat sports. The press conferences never disappoint.
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The Russian was really hacking away at McGregor.
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Khabib obviously the more personable fighter with the humble demeanor, McGregor is the one better at the theatrics and promotion, it was a clash of different styles, ultimately Khabib's superior ground game is what won it comfortably for him. I prefer McGregor's striking style, but it's always nice when a loudmouth gets taken down a notch.

It was a good fight, not sure what people expected, this is what an MMA fight is about. McGregor did well to defend a lot of the takedowns, but Khabib's relentlessness and technical ability on the mat is what counted.

It's just that MMA favours good wrestlers a lot, the smart money will always be on the fighter with the better ground game.

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What? How is it not a sport?
Because it is just brawling. Call it street fighting or whatever but it is not a sport.

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Because it is just brawling. Call it street fighting or whatever but it is not a sport.
Why are tennis players athletes, but MMA fighters aren't? By what criteria do you not consider them so?

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i hope the caucasian psychos hanging around kabib take it a step further and kill McGregor. It would be a good laugh to see the fallout.
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Why are tennis players athletes, but MMA fighters aren't? By what criteria do you not consider them so?
Everyone can brawl. Not everyone can run fast (your earlier example) or play other sports that require actual skills.

Even a boxer needs to have certain skills, a brawler does not.

I have absolutely no problem with people wanting to watch two adults fight with each other for no other reason than entertaining the crowd. However that has nothing to do with sports.

Even Wrestling (the WWE stuff, not greco-roman or freestyle) requires more skills and it's no sports.

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"certain skills"? I gather you have never boxed Tiger
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@Tigerheart Wtf is that logic mate? Everyone can run, or play any sport for that matter. It's just that the elite are called professional athletes. Your logic applies to every single sport out there. Or do you somehow think you can beat a UFC fighter on a good day? Do a bit research to see how much these guys train to hone their skills.

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Everyone can brawl. Not everyone can run fast (your earlier example) or play other sports that require actual skills.

Even a boxer needs to have certain skills, a brawler does not.

I have absolutely no problem with people wanting to watch two adults fight with each other for no other reason than entertaining the crowd. However that has nothing to do with sports.

Even Wrestling (the WWE stuff, not greco-roman or freestyle) requires more skills and it's no sports.
That's quite an uninformed opinion, especially surprising coming from you. Khabib for example has done martial arts for more than 25 years. These people are taking the best aspects from different types of decades old martial arts to become the best fighters possible. Most of the elite guys have been doing it for their whole lives.

All of them would absolutely demolish their counter parts from the boxing world. It would be no contest at all. It has nothing to do with brawling.

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All of them would absolutely demolish their counter parts from the boxing world. It would be no contest at all. It has nothing to do with brawling.
Ray Mercer though!

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Boxing and MMA are different sports, talking about demolishing counterparts is almost as stupid as saying it's all just brawling.
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"certain skills"? I gather you have never boxed Tiger
Well, footwork for example. None needed in brawling.

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@Tigerheart Wtf is that logic mate? Everyone can run, or play any sport for that matter. It's just that the elite are called professional athletes. Your logic applies to every single sport out there. Or do you somehow think you can beat a UFC fighter on a good day? Do a bit research to see how much these guys train to hone their skills.
I wouldn't beat them, of course not. But I bet you that someone from outside of UFC can beat them. You don't have anyone outrunning a professional 100m runner or beat a professional tennis player when you are from outside that particular sport.

You want an example? Brock Lesnar. He came from outside brawling (WWE wrestling) and won UFC matches. Big deal...

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That's quite an uninformed opinion, especially surprising coming from you. Khabib for example has done martial arts for more than 25 years. These people are taking the best aspects from different types of decades old martial arts to become the best fighters possible. Most of the elite guys have been doing it for their whole lives.

All of them would absolutely demolish their counter parts from the boxing world. It would be no contest at all. It has nothing to do with brawling.
I could copy and paste the same answer I just wrote to pele. And just for the record, I am not a boxing fan and I don't see what you are trying to compare here. Are you saying a brawler will beat a boxer in a brawl? Wow, big surprise. Or are you saying a brawler will beat a boxer in a proper boxing fight? Because that is definitely not going to happen.

Again, I already gave an example of an amateur just joining the brawling world for fun and actually winning.

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Oh, btw, just one more small thing. In case some of you think I have no respect for the brawlers, that is not true. I respect them being fearless and don't have a problem with pain. Maybe dedication to training, unless illegal substances are involved. But that's it. Still not considering it a sport.

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Khabib ftw . I don't really condone what he did nor do I hold it against him. Us EE folk do have short fuses dealing with personal incidents (the spitting part had me dying after he choked him out LOL). Conor had it coming. During the pre-fight press conferences Khabib conducted himself like a true pro, but he did insinuate what will happen come fight night. No fake ass handshakes etc.

Btw, did anyone catch Dana mention to Conor after the fight "He's (Khabib) ****ing nuts"

With all said and done, all publicity is good publicity. I bet some WWE fans got a real kick out of this event

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Boxing and MMA are different sports, talking about demolishing counterparts is almost as stupid as saying it's all just brawling.
Ain't that the truth

I would say though that majority of mma fighters do lack proper conditioning compared to boxers. Whenever I see mma guys trying to crossover and spar with boxers, they are huffing and puffing only after a couple of rounds. It's embarrassing to say the least. It goes without saying this would be the very first thing I'd be trying to implement if I was to get into mma. While Tiger is completely in the wrong here, I can see why people can see it that way. Still a fallacy to assume it's just brawling lol

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Speaking of double standards the guys who jumped Conor are fighters in the ufc and will most likely get cut. But Artem Lobov (Conor's little bitch) is with Conor when he attacks that bus Khabib was on and he gets to stay in the ufc?
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