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Cska Sofia vs Lokomodiv Sofia

I'm off to Bulgaria between the 19th till the 27th of September'07.
I've just realized that on the 23th of Sep there is Cska Sofia vs Lokomodiv Sofia and i'm interested to go to the Stadium.
I would like to know how much it will cost me a ticket!
Do you buy the tickets just before the games or normally you buy them in advance?

I could go for Levski Sofia vs Cherno More Varna as well on the 22nd of September.

Which is the best and intersting game to watch?

Many thanks in advance for your help guys.
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it shouldnt cost you more than 5 lv, even in the A sector, you can buy tickets at the the stadium before the game. I'd go to the CSKA-loko sofia match, since they're two of the bigger clubs around here and CSKA's stadium is located in the centre of the city, so it will be easy for you to get to it.
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Yes i've searched and zoomed on Google Earth and it seems that Cska Stadium is just a few meters away from Levski Stadium (national Stadium) in the city center and it's about 5-8km away from my Hotel so it won't be a problem at all.
5 lv is about 2.5 Euros am i right?

What is the normal attendance in this type of game? i mean two teams from Sofia!
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Levski - Cherno more will be played on the National Stadium "Vassil Levski". So it wouldn't be a big difference regarding the location of the stadium.

Attendances vary a lot. Depending on the weather, other games being played at the same time, the current form of the teams, etc.

But quite frankly I do not expect more than 10K on CSKA - Lokomotiv Sf, and more than 8-9K on Levski - Cherno more.

Tickets are pretty cheap as you see, it probably even not make much of a difference to you if it is 4,5, or 6 leva. It's all the same - 2-3 euro.
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5-8 km Where's your hotel?

Btw till when is levski playing at the nationa stadium?
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Ambassador Hotel, 110a Simeonovsko Shosse.

Do you think that there are more distance or less?

TBH i would like to go and watch Levski vs Cherno to see the Bulgarian National Stadium but from the other side it seems that Cska vs Lokomodiv Sofia will be more interesting game because it's a derby.

Out of subject - Because both of you are Bulgarians, can you pls suggest me some interesting places where i shouldn't miss?
I'm going to Vithosa mountain, Rila Monastery, and Plovdiv for sure, where else should i go?

Thanks for your help in advance.
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Dont miss the 7 lakes in the Rila/Рила Mountains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rila

I see you'll be residing in the south part, so you should go to Batak/Батак, I suggest.
http://www.batak-bg.com/index-eng.htm
http://www.batak-bg.com/karta-BATAK-ob6tina.swf

And of course The Rhodope/Родопи Mountains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodope_Mountains

you can throw in a look overe here: http://en.journey.bg/bulgaria/bulgaria.php?&gtype=9
dont worry, wherever you go, you're gonna hit the bullseye

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the stadium of CSKA is pretty much an accurate description of its nickname - the pigsty - one of the dirtiest stadiums all around the world. So if you'd like a good stadium conditions - go to the national stadium...

An interesting town to visit is Koprivshtitsa. It's one with an extremely high density of very important persons in the Bulgarian history being born there - poets and writers - Nayden Gerov, Dimcho Debelyanov, Lyuben Karavelov, some incredible revolutionaries - the latter, Todor Kableshkov, Georgi Benkovski, one of the most successful and popular politician from the beginning of the 20th century - Petko Karavelov(a brother of Lyuben). It has some traditional architecture...

Otherwise... you can go to Veliko Tarnovo, or Vidin... or ya - definitely Batak, as xtc said, you can go and see the Madara horseman, which is close to Shumen.

If you are a mountaineer, there are very cool places to go to... like "Koncheto" in the Pirin mountain. The 7 Rila lakes...

There are some nice waterfalls and caves too, if you want more info - ask...
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Vitosha is awesome, you should go to Cherni Vrah (top of the mountain) and eat some soup there, it's the best you can get anywhere. Just be creful when you're going, the main cable car works fri-sat-sun during the summer.
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Thanks to you all for your useful information, i really appreciate!

I'm still undecided of which game i should go between:
Cska Sofia vs Lokomodiv Sofia
23-09-07
18.00
or
Levski Sofia vs Cherno More Varna
22-09-07
19.00

Vitosha Mountain then i should go in the weekend's because i would like to go on the top of the Mountain (Cherni Vrah) for some good photos.

I have some questions:
* Which are Sofia's main streets, i mean Tourist street, Shopping street and Pedestrian street!
* What's the weather looks like in mid/late September?
* How much it will cost me a meal for 2 including a bottle of Bulgarian wine in a good restaurant?
* What's the traditional Bulgarian meal/drink?
* Ambassador Hotel (110a Simeonovsko Shosse) is located in Lozenets or Vithosa area?
* Do you have a good website/link where i can learn some Bulgarian basic words?
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Im not from Sofia, so let the guys correct me if im wrong.

* Sofia's main shopping streat, youll remember that easly, is "Vitosha Boulevard" or simply called 'Vitoshka'/Витошка. But it's probably better to see the whole shopping area for yourself (see the pic below).

* weather should be fine which means between 17 and 23 C° with broken clouds and a moderate to good shining, in case I didnt sleep in the geography lessons in school. p

* I dont know. sorry. havent been in BG for a while. Maybe something in the region of 20-50 euros, depends.

* I recommend you strongly "Ovcharska Salata"/Овчарска салата/"Shepherd Salat" and "Shopska Salata"/Шопска салата. "Shop" means someone native from the area of Sofia. (very very stupid people p)

From the soups you should try "Tarator"/Таратор - that's yoghourt stirred with water + cucumber cut into pieces + salt + eventually parsley. If the weather is relative warm - try it, really. One friend of mine worked here in Germany in a restaurant and he suggested his chiefs to include this soup in the menu. At first the germans did the soup their way and it was disgusting. But then my mate did it as it should be done and it became one of the most sold soups here around in the summer. A real hit among the germans, so to say The best garniture to "Tarator", IMO, is chips and a big and juicy pork-chop. Another great, this time rather thick soup is the bulgarian "bobena chorba"/beans soup.

From the main meals you could try "Palneni chushki sas sirene i jaica"/"Fried Peppers stiffed with cheese and eggs" but that sounds too lentan fare. Meat suggestions are: "shishcheta"/шишчета, meat balls/кюфте/kjufte, grilled meal/kebapche/кебапче - anyway, althought these taste very good (dont forget the chips, please), there is nothing extraorinary bout them. So try better something with tongue/ezik/език, no matter if pork or from cow, yummy! or maybe "Pileshki drebolii"/пилешки дреболии/giblets. Gosh, I need to eat something cooked!!!

From the deserts: 1. krem-karamel/крем-карамел, 2. sladka banica (сладка баница), 3. baklava/баклава. Ha, this one was easy.

drinks: wine, beer and "slivova rakija"/bg brandy (>40%). Sadly dont know which is good at the moment. If you ask me, the best wine I've drunk is the bottled wine 'Mavrud' from Stara Zagora (! as there are some other Mavrud kinds too).


* phrases from wikipedia

Кой сте Вие? (kói ste víe) (formal, masculine) — Who are you? (The formal expression uses a plural verb but a singular pronoun, which allows speakers to distinguish the two grammatical forms. Moreover, the formal singular pronoun denoting "you" - Вие is always capitalized in writing to distinguish it from the plural "you" - вие.)
Коя сте Вие? (kоiá ste víe) (formal, feminine) — Who are you?
Кои сте вие? (kоí ste víe) (plural form) - Who are you?
Как си? (kák si) (informal) — How are you?
Как сте? (kák st&#233 (formal, and also plural form) - How are you?
Да (d&#225 - Yes
Не (n&#233 - No
Може би (mózhé b&#237 - Maybe
Какво правиш? (kakvó právish) (informal) — What are you doing?
Какво правите? (kakvó právite) (formal, and also plural form) - What are you doing?
Добре съм (dobré səm) — I’m fine
Всичко (най-)хубаво (vsíchko (nai-)húbavo) — All the best
Поздрави (pózdravi) — Regards
Благодаря (blagodaryə́) (formal and informal) — Thank you
Моля (mólia) — Please
Моля (mólia) — You're welcome
Извинете! (izvinéte) (formal) — Excuse me!
Извинявай! (izviniávai) (informal) — Sorry!
Обичам те! (obícham te) - I love you!
Колко е часът? (kólko e chasə́t) — What’s the time?
Говорите ли ...? (govórite li...) — Do you speak ...?
...английски (anglíski) — English
...български (bə́lgarski) — Bulgarian
...немски (némski) — German
...руски (ruski) - Russian
...холандски (holándski) — Dutch
...гръцки (grə́tski) — Greek
...италиански (italiánski) — Italian
...испански (ispánski) — Spanish
...френски (frénski) — French
...японски (iapónski) — Japanese
...китайски (kitáiski) — Chinese
...корейски (koréiski) — Korean
Ще се видим скоро (shté sé vídim skóro) - We'll see each other soon
Ще се видим утре (shté sé vídim útre) - We'll see each other tomorrow
Also, some words have been borrowed from other languages, but their use is rarely (if ever) formal:

Мерси (mersi) - Thank you ; from French
Чао (chao) - Bye ; from Italian
Cупep (super) - Super ; (from English; note - "Super" remains the same regardless of quantity or gender)
Aло (alo) - Hallo on the phone; from French

other websites: http://www.ilearnbulgarian.com/

*Ambassador Hotel is located in Vitosha area.
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* Which are Sofia's main streets, i mean Tourist street, Shopping street and Pedestrian street!

+shopping and pedestrian - "Vitoshka" - it's close to the huge communistic monument NDK(National Palace of Culture); "Graf Ignatiev" str. - there is a huge books market on it - Slaveykov square
+Cultural sights to see:
-The "St. Alexander Nevski" Cathedral: http://www.sofia.bg/ecards/card02.jpg
-The National theater: http://www.sofia.bg/ecards/card01.jpg
-The "St. Sofia" Statue" : http://www.sofia.bg/ecards/card03.jpg http://www.sofia.bg/ecards/card09.jpg
-The University of Sofia main building: http://www.sofia.bg/ecards/card06.jpg
-The presidency and the buildings around it including the "Central Universal Shop": http://www.sofia.bg/ecards/card010.jpg
-The parliament and the monument of "Tsar Aleksander II - the Tsar Liberator": http://sofia.domino.bg/html/images/parlia_nevski.jpg
-The russian church: http://bghotelite.com/images/bg100%2...n%20church.jpg
-The St Sofia Church: http://bghotelite.com/photo_view_sig...%20Nedelya.jpg
-The Boyana Church: http://www.boyanachurch.org/

what else... well you can check for yourself:
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* What's the weather looks like in mid/late September?
* How much it will cost me a meal for 2 including a bottle of Bulgarian wine in a good restaurant?
* What's the traditional Bulgarian meal/drink?
* Ambassador Hotel (110a Simeonovsko Shosse) is located in Lozenets or Vithosa area?
* Do you have a good website/link where i can learn some Bulgarian basic words?
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The Ambassador is at a pretty good place, allthough it's a bit far from downtown it's on a main arthery so a cab to the centre should be pretty fast. The mountain is also near, so you've got yourself a nice place imo.
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If you could stay till september 29th, come to Plovdiv for Locomotiv - Botev Plovdiv. This is the best game in Bulgaria

- What position are you playing?
- Substitution.
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Veliko Tarnovo and Nesebur are also good, but far away from Sofia, Plovdiv and the mountains.

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- Substitution.
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If you could stay till september 29th, come to Plovdiv for Locomotiv - Botev Plovdiv. This is the best game in Bulgaria
Unfortunately i'll stay till the 27th of September
But i am going a full day to Plovdiv in that week

Knyaz Alexander I is the main street there right?
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Veliko Tarnovo and Nesebur are also good, but far away from Sofia, Plovdiv and the mountains.
Yes, it's about 6/7 hrs away from Sofia
I'd like to go to the Sunny Beach or Varna as well but it's too far away from the Capital.

It seems that buses are faster than trains in Bulgaria!
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The Ambassador is at a pretty good place, allthough it's a bit far from downtown it's on a main arthery so a cab to the centre should be pretty fast. The mountain is also near, so you've got yourself a nice place imo.
That's good mate!

Which are the best taxis companies in Sofia?
From the research i've made it seems that Ok Taxis are the best! and they are all yellow cars, am i right?
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@ xtc,
blagodary xtc, although it's a bit difficult for me to read the Cyrillac alphabet!

One of my main problem is that nearly all the signs are written in Cyrillic alphabet and i can't read it
In bus and train stations there are roman/Latin alphabet as second choice or only Cyrillic?
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