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What does the red arrow point at?

I suppose it must be somehow related to the city of Stara Zagora, a landmark or something, since the figure right under the USSR flag is one of the symbols of Samara, which used to be Stara Zagora's sister city in Soviet times.
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old June 2nd, 2006, 09:40 Thread Starter
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Hi,

thsi is the monument called "Shipka". It was build on one of teh top hills in Stara Planina, the mountain that runs across Bulgaria from west to east.

On that place, in 1877/8 one of teh most important battles (apparantly) of the Russian-Turksih War that lead to the Indipendence of Bulgaria took place. The Bulgarians and Russian were holding off teh Turks for days, being outnumbered and so on. Then new Russian forces joint them, they won and started the last phase of the war - the sourthern Bulgaria and all the way down to Istanbul.

One of the most important and famous Bulgarian poems, written by Ivan Vazov, is about this, called "Opalchencite na Shipka". Opalchenci, is a word used for the Bulgarians who joint the Russian Army during the war.

You can read a bit more here

http://www.picturesofbulgaria.com/ar...rk-museum.html


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Wow. Thanks a lot :thmbup:
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thats also the image that used to be printed on the old regime 1 lev banknotes

But arent the gits from Stara Zagora a bit cheeky? I dont recall this being in their city, not to mention being their symbol. Or maybe those images dont necessary to be in the above stated 2 cities?
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Well, the image on the left is from Samara for sure
http://samara-photo.ru/photo.php?id=1857
http://photofile.ru/users/gingerale/1307536/27408742/

Samara is linked to Bulgaria and Stara Zagora in particular in a number of ways, and since the building in the picture is located on Stara Zagora street, I thought it must be from that city. There's a cinema called Shipka not far from the place though, so it makes sense
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I am from Stara Zagora.
Frankly I cant recall seeing the picture but it aint no guarantee that it'S not somewhere on some of the living houses out there in the city. In the east suburbs of St.Z. we got 'Samarskoto Zname' (i've never been there : ) - that is a big concrete monument with golden elements and stays as a symbol for the russian fighters from the time of the war 'gainst Turkey.




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cool, I didn't know you even have a monument for it :thmbup:

another question:
what was written on the top of this stamp?
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It says 'Iskar'/Iskur/Искър (althought there is a slight sign of a 'S'/С after R/Р, maybe on the right it continious with 'Стара Планина'/Stara Planina, but it is scrubbed and we cant see it) and it is the name of one of the biggest bulgarian river with a lenght of 368 km. River Maritsa is longer but it's not lying completely in Bulgaria.
Iskar is coming from the West, more specifically from the mountain Rila and is the only river crossing the big mountain chain Stara Planina (Old Mountain), fusing into the Donau.




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Yeah, it is probably Stara Planina what'S written there after Iskur, cuz on the black print it says 'В. Търново' /Veliko Turnovo - a very beautiful city on the north side of Stara Planina.

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I think it probably says "Искърско дефиле"/"Iskar defile"

here's a picture of it:

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btw, ginger_ale, are you doing some work for class so that you need the answers or it's all pure curiousity?


Hm, did you know that in Stara Zagora all streets are straight and are crossing each other at 90 degrees. It's very practical as one never gets lost in the city - it's like a coordinate system. The story (not 100% to believe it, yet I find it amusing) says that the chief architect for the city got a deadline to create the position of the infrastructure, but he was a habitual toper so he got late and the first solution that came into his mind was to take the ruler and a pencil and draw straight lines.

However, it's all good and being a citizen of the city can be a very pleasant experience (as you have long streets with trees - linden mostly) unless you need to travel to the other big cities where you are totally clueless as you are simply not adapted to comprehend a city structure different to a grid.

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Thanks for all your replies, mates, really informative :thmbup: I think it says Искърско дефиле indeed.

I'm just being curious, that's all I've found piles of old stamps in my house recently, and some of them were from Bulgaria. Since I had nothing else to do, I just started reading about the places pictured in those stamps And as for the first pic, I'm trying to find all buidings with mosaics in the city, and compared to the rest, this one is a masterpiece
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LOL, xtc, the funny thing is that 2 years ago my friends and I got lost in Stara Zagora. We were passing through on our way to the seaside, and somehow managed we got out of the main boulevard. Anyways... we got lost, but it really was easy to find our way.
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Well, the image on the left is from Samara for sure
http://samara-photo.ru/photo.php?id=1857
http://photofile.ru/users/gingerale/1307536/27408742/

Samara is linked to Bulgaria and Stara Zagora in particular in a number of ways, and since the building in the picture is located on Stara Zagora street, I thought it must be from that city. There's a cinema called Shipka not far from the place though, so it makes sense
ginger, moi drug bezcenui

I just noticed you are from Samara. What are you doing there - student, working, etc.
Intrestingly, I might be very soon invloved in a project in Samara. It is not a 100% certain yet, but I might very well be there for a week or so in Sep or October.

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I just noticed you are from Samara. What are you doing there - student, working, etc.
I'm a student.

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Intrestingly, I might be very soon invloved in a project in Samara. It is not a 100% certain yet, but I might very well be there for a week or so in Sep or October. :thmbup:
Nice What kind of project is that?
The city is at its best in summer, but if the weather is good, it's also very beautiful in autumn.
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Student in?

There is a new Governmental project - Centers that provide legal aid for free to poor people. we will try to help a bit, but as I said it is not certain yet.

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Student in?
State & municipal management in Samara State Uni.

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There is a new Governmental project - Centers that provide legal aid for free to poor people. we will try to help a bit, but as I said it is not certain yet.
I see.

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