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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old April 24th, 2006, 21:07 Thread Starter
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Who will be sold this summer?

Besides all the talk from Batkov and Nasko I belive that this summer at least 2 of the young players will leave it is almost certain that Topcho is going after this year's success with Levski, the question is who will fallow. Personally I believe that Domovchiski and Richard have really made themselves into hot targets considering their age.
So where do you think they will go?

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old April 25th, 2006, 00:32
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Where? - Turkey or Russia. Or some second tier German/French small town clubs. It really pains me that our so called "agents" can only place our players in such places. At the same time, the ex-Yugo agents place all kind of -ichs in the top clubs of Spain and Italy, the only requirement being that they have two legs.

I think Petkov-Topuzakov-Richard-Domovchiyski must be off-limits for the next 2 years and the team must be build around those four. But I'm afraid Batkov&co. don't have enough prespective to see what the club can achieve if it invests in quality. I hope they prove me wrong and we have the chance to watch Levski in the CL in the next couple of years. Hopefully our youth academy will start producing more and more quality players.
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Its not only agents fault really. Yugo players have build a good name for themselves for decades now, so its easier for western clubs to buy into it. And CSKA was selling well too when they had sth to show for - good young players, some good wins in Europe. You see, you talk about perspective and building a team - as a fan I understand you. However, there is no guarantee at all Levski will be able to repeat this season in Europe and even go better next seasons. I know UCL spot should be a pririty but it is also a risk - if levski gets a bad draw and fails to qualify for UCl (which is quite possible), then UEFA is a lottery too, there a so many teams there these days you have no idea what will hit you. So, in some ways, from business perspective the UEFA 1/4 this season plus a title might be teh best podium to sell good and in good places. Too bad Levski lost the 1st game v S 04 so easily - I think many German clubs and agents were watching, and probably not so many saw teh 2nd game. having said that, the good "French” games might have brought some interest, and France is not a bad place to start these days. If you have the talent, the stamina and are a hard working honest player (Gonzo is the example that when you don’t have the latter you cant make it) - you will always have a chance for a good career.

CSKA were selling well in late 90s and early 2000 (Stilian, Berbo, Marto) because of few things - their brand was well known in Europe (like the Yugo clubs brands, or Steaua, Sparta P, etc), they had good connections with agents and networks ( I think mostly from the times of Stoickov, Penev, Kostadinov, Lchkov, etc - then was the time when they build their solid relationships, while Levski had Lafchis to fight local wars and Jujo to profit personally all the time) and good players to sell. Levski has the latter now it seems and has to either take adv of this season's success or build in on it next few years and make a name in the west market.

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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old April 25th, 2006, 11:23
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It's quite pointless to sell at the end of this season given the fact that the major transfer targets will be participating in the World Championship, and for Levski to get anything above 3 mill $ will be practically a miracle (considering that romanian players are the top East European targets in the summer). And just as a reference the lowest profit made in the CL this year is 3,8 mill $ - above the price Levski can get from a single transfer.
Watching Domovchiyski's progress and the confidence he shows lately, I think the team will make a mistake if it sells it's brightest talent in this summer - this player can improve more even if he stays in BG (and thus raise his value). The problem is if Levski decides to keep the squad it will be a real bet, and everything goes into the qualification rounds for the CL as entering this competition is the only way to get the attention of the big sharks (and as bono said there is no guarantee that the team will make it into the strongest european tournament). Technically the same goes for Richard - at this point we can't get the maximum cash amount, and the player can still grow at the team.
As for Topuzakov, lately he mentioned that he'd rather stay if the team wins the championship and try yet again to make it into the group phase of the CL. There are rumors about Gonzo's desire to remain in the team as well, and in an interview he confirmed that this is possible, so the final decission whether to preserve the squad or not is held by Levski's board. I don't know if Sirakov and Batkov will keep their promise, but for once it seems that the current players can still give something more to the club and the fans.
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I just dont agree with one thing gianni - if Levski wants to sell this summer they have to sell now. After the WC no one will remember levski, its UEFA games or its players. That is the reasons why Stilian and Berbo are pushing for transfers now. They wont play the WC and their value will drop as a result after it. The really big mistake they both make is signing new contracts and thus overpricing themselves. But it seems liek Tottenham might get Berbo which I think is a great move for him, especially if T makes the UCL. And who knows they might go foir Stilain too.

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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old April 25th, 2006, 17:11
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Levski doesn't want to sell this summer or next summer or like ever.

Levski wants to make their supporters happy (if only).

Hristolov=Batkov??? And which shady Russo-Jewish billionare is Hristolov representing in Bulgaria then?

On topic and along the lines of what bono mentioned - it has been really shocking to see CSKA unable to sell in recent years. Traditionally that's what they are made for and thst's what their supporters find great satisfaction in, but it's like they've lost their channels or something. Or maybe simply being unable to perform well in Europe has taken its toll - their last memorable campaign dates back to D.Penev's last stint w/ them in 1998. He's back at the club now, but I don't think in the position to dramatically change things. The future will tell.
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levski cannot under any circumstances sell ANY players.. we will be seeded for the CL draw so what make the team fall apart??? it would be foolish to sell anyone and i never see the point of a turkey or russia move i mean why would they go to a team that isnt that has that much more class then levski.
keeping our best players would be an investment and if we go to the CL we wont need to sell players because we will be able to make levski grow by becoming a regular CL participant and if we make it through this year as long as we become champions we are seeded so its pointless to sell now... if we werent seeded it would be a different story but this team MUST stay together
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there is no logic for Levski selling with this sweet chance for getting into the CL. Ofc, even if that happens, the HUUGE money will come in case that Levski does similarly to how Artmedia did and not just go for 5-6 losses and 0-1 draws and then get some good offers from big Euro clubs. Otherwise, it will just milk as much as it can get from CL revenues and then sell players that are "not motivated anymore" to mediocre clubs.

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Yes ,now that Levski is seeded they just might wait for the winter brake, still I do believe that Levski will sell their top players after this year's CL.

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lol, we might still be in the CL after the winter break, who knows?
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Nope even if Levski some how survive through the winter brake ,there will be deals that even Levski can't pass up in that case. It will be like Artmedia ,except for larger sums of money.

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I doubt it, transfers will go on during the summer break. We never sold anybody during the winter, and I do not think we will do it now, no matter what the outcome of the group stage might be.
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Didn't Alexandrov, Pantelic and Stoyanov leave us during the winter transfer windows in seasons passed? And especially if we find ourselves in Artmedia's position from last year - a bunch of WE clubs poaching on our top players offering them 5x the money they make at Levski - I can't seriously see the management keeping them.:rollani:

The thing is thogh: from the first team (which imo is our formation this spring: Petkov - Angelov, Tomasic, Topuzakov, Vagner - Richard, Borimirov - Telkiyski, Bardon, Yovov - Ivanov), I can't see a single one making it even to a mid-tier German or French club. The best case scenario for them is a mid-tier in Holland, Portugal, Ukraine, Russia and Turkey.

And unfortunately even those are more attractive than Levski for some of our top players, as the fate of the Ivankov+Alexandrov+Ivanov trio show.
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a bunch of WE clubs poaching on our top players offering them 5x the money they make at Levski - I can't seriously see the management keeping them.
you then gotta ask yourself what sort of club would do that cauz a poor one couldnt. CSKA had that with Zabavnik who left for more lucrative salary to Sparta Prague(though it also had effect the fact that,as a Slovakian, it would suit him better there) but that aint such a bad club to end up in.
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