Teams: Australia & Newcastle United
Couto5 ... don't give me this crap at the Dockers having it tougher than other interstate clubs at inception ...
Freo had guys like Jeff White, Peter Bell, Winston Abraham, Spider Burton etc on their initial list and were ultra-competitive with guys like Scott Chisholm becoming stars overnight - don't forget you also had Ben Allan who was arguably the league's best midfielder at the time and seasoned key-players like Peter Mann and Stephen O'Reilly come and play - they also had the rights to Andrew McLeod but traded them for Chris Groom - and had the opportunity to draft a young Shane Woewodin but didn't.
It's not the rest of the league's fault that Freo's management had/have no fcuking idea is it??? The first Freo squad was more than capable - if the coach is sh1t or chooses to pass up and delist good players then thats the club's problem.
Now the other clubs in question who you say had it easier than Freo?
Adelaide (thanks to Port Adelaide's rogue bid back in 1990) had little over a month to create an entire club from scratch and was only allowed to use SANFL players and un-contracted South Australian origin players to fill its list - it wasn't allowed to participate in the draft fully until the mid-90s.
Port Adelaide's original list was expected to not even win a game ... the best eight players on it's original list were considered to be:
Gavin Wanganeen (Brownlow Medallist),
Brayden Lyle, Shane Bond & Ian Downsbrough (West Coast rejects),
David Brown, Scott Hodges (Adelaide Rejects).
Matthew Primus & Steven Paxman (Fitzroy)
The rest were kids and journeymen playing in a vastly weakened SANFL and rejects delisted by other clubs ... compare this to the decent crop of players Freo could call upon.
Brisbane and Sydney also had their fair share of misery in their initial decades - to the point where early coaches of both clubs were having to pay 'star' players out of their own pockets at some stages. Both clubs have also had their fair share of wooden spoons, but in defense of both clubs (although I disagree with the extent of concessions and handouts given to them in latter years), both clubs have had success in varying degrees on the back of homegrown players.
I'm sorry to say but the majority of Fremantle's problems have come from bad decisions and poor performance stemming from bad decisions - the comical Fabian Francis draft/salary-cap debacle which was as recent as this season is a prime-example.
"They picked on the wrong man - and the wrong country. It was like pouring petrol onto a fire as far as I was concerned.
There's an old saying that the dog that barks loudest never bites. They did a lot of barking but we bit them pretty hard. Uruguay's attitude just showed how scared they were of us - it was their last resort."
- Vincenzo Grella, Parma & Australia.
Last edited by dyertribe; July 21st, 2002 at 12:38.