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Jarryd Hayne signs with the Titans

Jarryd Hayne trashes sport’s last sacred rule with snub for Eels



COMMENT: JARRYD Hayne just broke the only rule in sports that is still sacred when it comes to professional athletes and the public: Don’t treat the fans like idiots.

In signing with the Gold Coast Titans, after repeated assurances to Eels fans that he would return to Parramatta, Hayne went there. He went there in cold, cynical fashion that should forever rip the veneer from all the guff we’ve been fed over the past two years about his ‘dreams’.

The sporting public are a hardened lot these days and in a fully professional era, they need to be. There are more big money options than ever before for the top stars, especially in the global economy where borders don’t matter, and even more so in a time where every sport is chasing the ‘perfect athlete’ and skill sets are increasingly hybridised. It has never been less likely that your favourite star will stay put at your club for a decade and retire a revered one-club (and now one-sport) player.

If Sonny Bill Williams revolted fans with his walkout on the Bulldogs, his cross-code leaps ever since have been accepted readily, even celebrated. They are part mercenary, part glory hunter, but they are just the new reality that comes with an exceptionally talented sportsman who can ply his trade in similar codes – and generate huge interest and revenue for all parties in doing so.

Here’s why SBW’s image has completely changed: His agenda these days could not be more transparent. There are no walkouts, no blindside shocks. There are short-term deals and no promises beyond what are written in the contract, the terms of which he meets meticulously these days, as a more mature person than the hyped-up kid who left the Dogs mid-term under the cover of night.

There is the up-front expectation that SBW will do what he wants to do and keep us all posted. And think back: Even the ugly dash to Toulon didn’t come with a bunch of rubbish about dreams and personal challenges. SBW did it for the money, straight up.

Hayne one-upped SBW’s cross-code exploits with his unprecedented shot at the NFL and the fact he made it on to the field in America’s biggest sport at his very first attempted season remains a miracle. It’s well-known he took a salary cut during that time but he aggressively acted to turn himself into a brand, rake in big-money sponsorships and also churn out a documentary.

He set off for that mission with the whole-hearted support of the Eels and both parties claimed a ‘lifetime agreement’ was in place for Hayne to return to Parramatta should he make an NRL comeback.

Eyebrows were raised when Hayne flippantly quit the NFL for an incredibly unlikely shot at Fiji’s Sevens Rugby team for the Rio Olympics, drawing scorn when he claimed that competing in the Olympics was another ‘dream’ he’d always had.

When it came to nothing, and the Eels suddenly dropped Kieran Foran’s contract, the stage was set for a comeback. And the message to Eels fans from Hayne throughout the entire saga could not have been more emphatic.

To Eels fans in a special letter, as he left for the NFL in October 2014: “I’m leaving knowing that I have signed a ‘lifetime agreement’ with the Eels, so if I return to the NRL, it will be to Parramatta.”

Earlier this year, after the latest round of rumours linking him to the Roosters: “Like I always said, if I ever came back I’d go to Parra if they wanted me. That was always something I said from the start. It’s funny when you see media outlets say I’m doing this and I’m doing that. It’s even funnier when you see Parra fans go online and have a go at me. If you believe that you’re a clown.”



Jarryd Hayne at his press conference announcing his NFL switch.Source: AAP

Hayne lambasted people who claimed he was ready to quit the NFL as clowns. He called those who said he’d play for an NRL club other than the Eels clowns. Who’s the clown now, Jarryd? Parramatta (a club admittedly at rock bottom) wanted you. They made you an offer (you say was informal). You went to a rival club, despite all your supposedly heartfelt promises.

Even in announcing the signing, Hayne was playing an angle - he put out his first statement on the signing via the Twitter handle of his apparel brand, then retweeted it from his personal handle, in order to give his business a plug while his name was white hot.

What Parramatta later admitted about the ‘lifetime agreement’ was that it wasn’t binding. So you can toss up the excuse that Hayne - who blamed Parramatta’s instability - did no wrong as he didn’t break a contract ... but that’s completely beside the point.

SBW killed the idea that there’s a sacred bond of loyalty between teammates in the professional era. The current Robbie Farah saga is just the latest reminder that there is virtually no loyalty between clubs and players anymore.



There are few things sacrosanct these days in the relationship between players and fans, supporters who have become conditioned to understand that a pro athlete needs to make as much money as possible in a short career that could end at any moment due to injury. More than ever, they get it, and blind rage over players swapping clubs is more often than not glum acceptance.

But there’s one rule still remaining: Don’t treat the fans, the people who pay to see you play, buy your jersey, make you endorsement-worthy and ultimately make you filthy rich, like morons.



Hayne just went there.

Now, we wait to see how his ‘dream’ of playing for a struggling franchise in a rugby league wasteland pans out, in front of more seats than supporters.

At least seats can’t have their hearts broken and their intelligence insulted.

**Tim Elbra is FOX Sports Australia homepage editor - and a long-suffering Eels fan

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Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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even as a Bulldogs fan, i have to say this has been a nightmare year for the Eels --> salary cap beaches, domestic violence allegations, players let go mid season, players caught with drugs at the casino, sex tape, Foran's drug mess to injuries to being released, board sackings and now 'the industry unto himself' Hayne chasing the money on the Gold Coast and wiping his feet on the Eels club that was, at the time of his switch to chase some NFL pipe dream, offering about 20% of their cap in wages to him

pretty much stuffed 5 years worth of scandals into less than a season

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Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."

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What a shambles of a club

The Dragons board could give them a run for their money though.

But the ones that you have to feel for the most here are the Parra fans. As shit as they are, theyve been through everything, finally put a good coach in place, with a pretty solid roster, and it all blew up in their face
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Who would want to sign for the Eels in their current situation?

But by the same token, why did he have to sign a deal now and play this season? Why couldn't he wait until the finals were over, give everything time to settle and then make up his mind?

All that said, good on the Titans for securing this one after being dicked around by Cherry-Pop.

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What a shambles of a club

The Dragons board could give them a run for their money though.

But the ones that you have to feel for the most here are the Parra fans. As shit as they are, theyve been through everything, finally put a good coach in place, with a pretty solid roster, and it all blew up in their face
the big problem for the Dragons is their inability to attract top talent... have been snubbed by most major recruitment targets in the last couple years... you have also lost some good talent to other clubs (eg. Hastings)... speaking of which, talk is that the Dogs are going to sign that second rower Leilua who played against the Broncos

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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Who would want to sign for the Eels in their current situation?

But by the same token, why did he have to sign a deal now and play this season? Why couldn't he wait until the finals were over, give everything time to settle and then make up his mind?

All that said, good on the Titans for securing this one after being dicked around by Cherry-Pop.
must be said, Norman has re-signed despite his well publicised issues and interest from clubs such as the Dragons... then again, Foran contemplated suicide and has been released

as for Hayne, i just think he is looking at maximising his media exposure which in turn will maximise his brand... unless of course, the 2 years out of the game has impacted on his abilities which could lead to one almighty thud when he falls back down to Earth

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Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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Forget the Eels or the titans. The SHARKS ALL THE WAY. 2016 TITLE.

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Sharks have had a great year thus far but the finals are a different beast

by the way, one of the great sporting conundrums is how my 'Dogs can be a top 4 team and yet have the worst kicking game in the entire NRL... pathetic fifth tackle options

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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Des Hasler is a glorified PE teacher... the Dogs' passing, kicking, attacking structures and recruitment are for sh*t

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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We've been a solid 4th-8th team for years now and that's the limit. Ever since Barba lost his marbles that summer, we've been exactly that, just solid but not capable of winning the whole thing.

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a solid team only, yes... the loss of a Dally M winning attacking force like Barba was in 2012, fair enough... but Hasler still has had 3 years to fix this and yet we have a spine (1, 6, 7, and 9) with NO ball players in it... i already follow a NT with strikers that can't shoot, i don't now need my league team to be unable to pass or kick

there are all these descriptions being used to describe the Bulldogs' attack --> "clunky", "winning ugly", "grinding", "forward-centric" etc.

but in truth, offensively we just plain suck... we only ever score thru an error from the opposition, or some good individual play from an outside back (Brett Morris, you f*%#ing star), a forward barging over, or some unintended kick, pass or falcon

and for some reason, when it gets late in the tackle count, the ball always seems to find its way to a slow forward (seriously, Tolman should not be allowed to touch the ball after the 3rd tackle)

sign a proper halfback

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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Any rumours of us going after any halves?

I don't want Foran. More workmanlike shit.

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talk was that Foran would come in to play halfback, Mbye would be shifted to hooker and Lichaa shown the door... if true, stupid thinking

then the stories shifted to Foran wanting to sign with the Warriors for a season to avoid the glare of the Sydney media

either way, he is not the answer... he is another one-sided five eighth who cannot control the game with direction, kicking and good fifth tackle plays

the Dogs did sign a halfback earlier in the year who had previously had huge wraps on him (Harry Seijka) but who never made the transition from young hopeful to actual top grade star... we have also signed some QLD Cup halfback in his mid-20's (Cleeland i think) who has never actually played first grade.. in other words, nothing

a lot of potential young FG halves that should have been targeted --> Ash Taylor, Kane Elgey, Mitchell Moses, Luke Brooks, Luke Keary etc... even bringing Aiden Sezer back should have been considered in view of his kicking game

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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You know, it has entered my head, Gold Coast. One of Elgey or Taylor because they're stacked with halves now. Roberts, Taylor, Elgey and also Hayne being shifted around. I like Elgey, probably easier to get him than Taylor.

The guys from other teams are unrealistic I think. Tigers won't let either one go, Keary is also done.

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Moses and Brooks had options in their favours for 2017... they could stay on with the Tigers or sign elsewhere and they both delayed exercising these options until mid-year... added to that was the salary cap problems with the Tigers with Farah taking up almost $1 million in the cap, i do think something could have been done

but that is now over, they are both just going to keep getting better and better and with the Farah situation to be resolved, the Tigers should be in a position to keep them and Tedesco long term... in truth though, i think Moses and Brooks would be better players if separated as they both have the potential to be primary ball players for a team and will get in each others way a bit

i am not really thinking of Taylor now but when the Broncos let him go... huge potential but an unknown quantity at first grade level... that's when you sign the player... it is a risk as you do not know how he will develop and whether he can make the no 7 jersey his own, but he was available and cheap... now, far harder to pry him away from the Titans (who in truth need some good luck after Cherry-Evans bailed on them)

Elgey's issue is his health... injury prone

Keary in truth is overrated and probably cost the Roosters a pretty penny... even so, a better halfback option than what we have (not to say a better player, but a better halfback)... i still prefer to keep Mbye over Keary but Mbye is not a halfback

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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Mbye is very quick and has that long pass. Apart from that...

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Mbye is an athlete... very fast, strong pass in both directions, not weak in the front line of defence, can kick (but does not have a long kicking game), can goal kick (sort of), can run at the line etc... that is why he has played numerous positions at the club (halfback, five-eighth, centre, hooker, fullback even i think)

but your halfback needs vision and Mbye doesn't

if you could put a Cronk-Adam Reynolds type halfback next to him to control the play and do the majority of the kicking, then Mbye would make a very good running five eighth

and in that scenario, Josh Reynolds could then provide spark off the bench in 10-15 minute spurts from hooker giving Lichaa a rest

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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I always liked Josh at hooker myself as well.

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not for long spells but he could be awesome in that role for 10-15 minute periods when the opposition are tired, on the back foot, when we need to score etc.

Capello beamed: "From Savicevic you came to expect these unthinkable plays of brilliance, because from the position he was in most players would have just taken the ball in stride and gone a little further with it, instead he went for this spectacular attempt which has gone down in history and is shown over and over again. It was simply.... Una cosa da Savicevic [the way of Savicevic]."
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How about you take Jackson Hastings?

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