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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old July 3rd, 2003, 11:54 Thread Starter
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Is the AFL screwing Victorian clubs ?

Well, well, well. I think the AFL's dream is coming true, they have 6 teams in the top 8. But, as much as id like the AFL to become a true national competion, it shouldnt come at the expense of the Vic clubs. What else would you call the AFL keeping the 10% from last season till now, it shouldve been at least reduced at the end of last season. that 10% has already screwed Essendon, so, its a bit too late for the bombers. Now that the 10% will be reduced to 9% for next year, im wondering, is it better if they REDUCE their 10% or INCREASE ours by 10% ?
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Of course they're Chris they could'nt give a Rats Ar$e about the Vic teams,All they want is that the Kangas and the doggies to fold to allow them to probably bring in a side from tassie and maybe the ACt.
I cant stand wayne Jackson and that tosser Dimetriou.

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...stop the whining, all these years the afl has done nothing but help the vic teams, just take a look at the finals series and mcc and you have your answer, its a national competition! what about us here in SA, how many times have we been screwed?

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Purge on deals for veterans
By Stephen Rielly
July 04 2003


The AFL is preparing an attack on the practice of back-loading the contracts of veterans, a change that will significantly reduce the financial appeal of the present system that allows for half of a veteran's contract to be excluded from the salary cap.

At a meeting of club chief executives and the AFL yesterday, the league outlined a proposal to "average" the contracts of veterans that will consider the life of their deals rather than the season(s) in which they are listed as veterans.

It is common practice for clubs to pay an outstanding player, approaching veteran status, well below market value in the early years of a contract and load the bulk of the deal into the year in which he qualifies.

For example, Essendon has back-loaded the contract of James Hird so that when he is listed as a veteran next year, 50 per cent of his salary will be exempt from the salary cap.

Carlton has done likewise with Anthony Koutoufides.

The players get their money but the clubs get salary cap relief twice over, in the first instance by paying below market value for their champions before they are veterans and again when they qualify as veterans.

The proposal as explained yesterday would add the total sum of a contract and divide it by its years, producing an average of which half would be exempt from the salary cap.

For example, a $1 million, three-year-deal that pays a player $150,000 in season one, $250,000 in season two and $600,000 in the year of qualification would average out at $333,000, of which $166,500 would be discounted from the cap.

At the moment, $300,000 would be exempt.

Until this year, clubs have been able to list only two veterans - players with at least 10 years' service and who are at least 30 years of age - but as of next year, they will be able to nominate as many veterans as they want.

The AFL suggested yesterday that the change would not take effect until 2005, allowing clubs to honour existing deals and to give them time to accommodate the switch.
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The VFL was the fine the way it was before it became the AFL,Now it's a money making Venture.Of course you have one team states who flourish with sponsorships and memberships.here in Victoria we have nearly a dozen sides with Carlton,Collingwood,Essendon and Richmond sharing the majority of the supporter bases and the other sides have to scrape in who have been around for donkey's years.
already Fitzroy was massacred for what if anything the Afl should've saved them even if it meant having a lopsided comp for a while,Im not saying exclude any of the Interstate sides because honestly I have nothing against them,Maybe we could've eventually include Tassie.
The draw is unfair to so many sides,The days of great footy are gone according to me.

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Suddenly now that the comp is dominated by interstate sides the Vics are whining What about when WCE and Adelaide were the only competitive interstate sides.You guys were happy as Larry.The AFL has a Bias towards you not against you.
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The days of great footy are gone as mentioned above...you can put one reasons down to the umpiring which is a disgrace, they have totally ruined our game

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The VFL was the fine the way it was before it became the AFL,
It was dying and its popularity was waning. The injection of cash and interest generated from the entry of West Coast and Adelaide reinvigorated the comp both financially and in terms of luring support to the game - the AFL has never been stronger.

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It's quite funny because whenever an Interstate side has won the Flag I have'nt cared because it was bound to happen as long as Essendon,Collingwood or Richmond don't win it any Non-Vic side can win as much as they want.
At least we've been able to see fine talents such as Voss,mcleod,Rocciuto,Mods and the list goes on.

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It will change eventually, I'm not too fussed about it all.


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The AFL has a Bias towards you not against you.
the vic clubs have got to extract the digit, the last thing i wanna c is vic clubs moaning and bleatin for assistance ala some former basketcase interstate clubs, unfortunately the aints, bulldogs and kangaroos continue to whine, just pick up ur game, merge or fu(k off!


as much as it burns, collingwood r leading the way and next year they'll rival adelaide themselves in terms of number 1 memebership club, essendon, richmond and carlton are all capable of doing it to, if they follow adelaide and wet toast in terms of professionalism.

stop whingeing and lift ur game

btw King get a reality check, how u come to conclusion that the afl is melbourne biased has got me if anything until recently they have been interstate-centric trying to make it a truly national competition, what they did to fitzroy will never be forgiven in VIC, only recently have they become a fair 'body'
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I could'nt care less if a Non-Vic side wins the flag Infact I hope it's an Interstate Granfd Final,whats the point in whingeing about it.

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