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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old July 11th, 2015, 12:24 Thread Starter
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it has been going on for a week...yesterday Wolves (with Towns, LaVine and Payne) handled Lakers (Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Upshaw) quite easily.

Might watch the NYK game today as Porzingis is rumored to play...apparently Summer League matches are included in League Pass this year which I don't remember being the case in previous seasons.

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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It was last year too I think, or maybe not..

Zingis is extremely weak for now. Should still be good enough to play through others as a spot shooter etc - but in this setting he's not gonna really shine as a creator - and if you can't create in SL there's not a lot for you to do.

But he did well with his time on the floor, which is a positive. Managed to get to the line and although was physically outmatched at every stage of the game he battled through and showed some heart.

He'll live and die by his 3pt shot the next year or two, before he develops physically and will be able to create out of the post and make himself a bit more Dirk-like.

Liked his mobility and activity defensively, though. For a 7'3 guy he moves like a guard which is insane.

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what was worrying is how he was easily kept off the glass by those scrubs...he can't establish himself in the paint at all, he's so weak and doesn't seem to have a good frame for muscle-building.

not sure if he is really 7'3 BTW...he was measured only 2.12m (6'11.75'' in the beginning of the Sevilla season. Then a few months before the draft his height was changed to 7'1 on Draftexpress...a week or so before the draft his agency released their measurements of 7'2...now it seems Knicks added an extra inch just for the heck of it.

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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He was measured 7'1.25 with socks on.

He's a legit 7'2.5-7'2.75 with shoes, and it got rounded up to 7'3.

He's 19 years old, and possibly still in his growing phase which is understandable seeing his still underdeveloped frame.

I don't think he'll have problems with his frame in the future 4-5 years from now - he just needs time and proper NBA level work and/or nutrition to fill into his own.

For reference, see Andrei Kirilenko who has about the same build. Porzingis is just 4 inches taller, a way better shooter - with lesser defensive know-how and attention (although he looked quite impressive defensively at times in Summer League)

Kirilenko was rail thin, but developed into being wiry strong - which is all that matters.

You don't need him building too much muscle as his main strength besides his shooting is how amazingly agile and athletic he is for a 7'3 guy (honestly, one of the most athletic people I've seen for a guy that tall and long - the way he moves laterally so effortlessly and the way he runs the floor is extremely impressive).

He needs to gain just enough weight so he manages to hold his own, but doesn't lose his edge athletically - I hope they don't rush him into building huge muscle mass in a short period of time, cause that would not be wise for his and ours' long term future.

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He was measured 7'1.25 with socks on.

He's a legit 7'2.5-7'2.75 with shoes, and it got rounded up to 7'3.

He's 19 years old, and possibly still in his growing phase which is understandable seeing his still underdeveloped frame.

I don't think he'll have problems with his frame in the future 4-5 years from now - he just needs time and proper NBA level work and/or nutrition to fill into his own.

For reference, see Andrei Kirilenko who has about the same build. Porzingis is just 4 inches taller, a way better shooter - with lesser defensive know-how and attention (although he looked quite impressive defensively at times in Summer League)

Kirilenko was rail thin, but developed into being wiry strong - which is all that matters.

You don't need him building too much muscle as his main strength besides his shooting is how amazingly agile and athletic he is for a 7'3 guy (honestly, one of the most athletic people I've seen for a guy that tall and long - the way he moves laterally so effortlessly and the way he runs the floor is extremely impressive).

He needs to gain just enough weight so he manages to hold his own, but doesn't lose his edge athletically - I hope they don't rush him into building huge muscle mass in a short period of time, cause that would not be wise for his and ours' long term future.
But can he build enough muscle mass on this ectomorph frame to hold to his own in the paint? Right now he is one of the worst rebounders I've ever seen, he can't block out people at all. Kirilenko was more of a wing player defensive specialist and always remained a subpar rebounder (he was listed a half foot shorter than Porzingis btw and played as SF mostly). But for Kristaps it's basically the question if he can become an all round big man who can get advantage of his height in the paint or will he remain an outside/midrange shooter with limited usefulness. He's pretty tough and has good basketball IQ but IMO the bust potential is still high.

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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Porzingis did okay vs Okafor...got pounded in the paint as expected but managed to use his length to block OK4's shot 3 times. His (lack of) rebounding is still incredibly frustrating to watch though. Fun fact: he's been shooting 3-5 from the field in each of three games so far. And given up open looks in each game...he wants to be efficient.

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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