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Jordan's Bulls vs LeBron's Heat

what would happen if we match up the late 90s Bulls of Jordan, Pippen and Rodman with the Heat of early 2010's in a seven game series?

personally I don't see much of a contest there. Pippen and Rodman would be able to contain LeBron pretty well while Jordan would destroy Wade both on offense and defense. add to this that LeBron is mentally weak and would choke instantly when facing the best team in the history of the NBA.

Bulls in 4 games.

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Bulls in 5 games.
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Chris Bosh would be lucky to get 1 defensive (not offensive, yes defensive) rebound if Rodman felt sorry for him. Then with Pippen on James, MJ on Wade, and Harper on Miller/Chalmers/Battier whomever, I don't see how they can get any scoring going. And since the Heat are the weakest rebounding team and undersized, they would be losing 30 points average per night. 4 games. I don't see how it can go to 5 given this team lacks a true center and lacks rebounding in general.
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I think thats taking things far, losing by average 30 point a night lol. I havent watched enough of 1990's to comment, but I do think its defo not a 5 game series. Lebron never in his life lost a series in less then 6 games ( bar once vs spurs in finals, he was surrounded with trash ).
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I think thats taking things far, losing by average 30 point a night lol. I havent watched enough of 1990's to comment, but I do think its defo not a 5 game series. Lebron never in his life lost a series in less then 6 games ( bar once vs spurs in finals, he was surrounded with trash ).
The 30 pt gap IMHO would be from the rebounds. That's my reasoning. If you can't rebound, you're more likely than not to lose points. The Bulls had efficient scorers as well as efficient rebounders. A team like that punishes you for not taking chances. They had too many defense players as well.

Harper/Jordan/Pippen/Rodman co.

Only weakness was Kukoc's defense but they brought him more for scoring especially 3 points.
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its a weak reasoning. 30 point difference is like the difference between current heat and some unknown team in europe.Its not the difference between 2 alll time great teams.
You also look at one part of your glass, and avoid the other part. For example can rodman hang out with lebron on the wing trying to defend him? LBJ can play powerr forward and coz problems. Another thing, rodamn during bulls days was not his prime days if am not mistaken..his prime days were at detroit pistons.

I still say its 6 - 7 game series to whatever side u wanna argue, but its not logical claim it will be 4 game series with average win 30 points.
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I would take 2001 Lakers in 6 over the current Heat. Shaq would eat this team for lunch.

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its a weak reasoning. 30 point difference is like the difference between current heat and some unknown team in europe.Its not the difference between 2 alll time great teams.
You also look at one part of your glass, and avoid the other part. For example can rodman hang out with lebron on the wing trying to defend him? LBJ can play powerr forward and coz problems. Another thing, rodamn during bulls days was not his prime days if am not mistaken..his prime days were at detroit pistons.

I still say its 6 - 7 game series to whatever side u wanna argue, but its not logical claim it will be 4 game series with average win 30 points.
if anybody could then it's Rodman...one of the best and quickest defenders on his position who would suit very well for covering LeBron. Bulls matches up really well against this Heat.

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if anybody could then it's Rodman...one of the best and quickest defenders on his position who would suit very well for covering LeBron. Bulls matches up really well against this Heat.
Exactly Bulls were strong defensively in every position. And Rodman was one of the best one on one defenders of all time. A guy who made defense and rebounding payable.

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its a weak reasoning. 30 point difference is like the difference between current heat and some unknown team in europe.Its not the difference between 2 alll time great teams.
You also look at one part of your glass, and avoid the other part. For example can rodman hang out with lebron on the wing trying to defend him? LBJ can play powerr forward and coz problems. Another thing, rodamn during bulls days was not his prime days if am not mistaken..his prime days were at detroit pistons.

I still say its 6 - 7 game series to whatever side u wanna argue, but its not logical claim it will be 4 game series with average win 30 points.
1. If the Heat play smallball, then the Bulls can too. Harper or Kerr/Kukoc or Kerr/Jordan/Pippen/Rodman with Pippen shutting LBJ down.

2. Rodman's performance didn't waver as much as you'd think from his first title with the Pistons in 89 to the last with the Bulls in 98. His rebound%'s and DRtg weren't that big of a difference (24.4% -> 21.3%, 99 -> 100). Rodman was a beast.

Bulls would absolutely destroy the Heat. The Heat would never make the Finals with Jordan's Bulls in the East.

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That was a shot. However, when he hits those trivelas one of two things happen-

1-Joshua has an orgasm.

2-Queresma scoress, and Joshua has an orgasm.

This time he got a lucky assist, but you can still bet Joshua had an orgasm.
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You know who else would give them trouble? 1986 Celtics. Imagine the Heat trying to deal with Parish/McHale/Walton

Not to mention DJ and Bird.

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That was a shot. However, when he hits those trivelas one of two things happen-

1-Joshua has an orgasm.

2-Queresma scoress, and Joshua has an orgasm.

This time he got a lucky assist, but you can still bet Joshua had an orgasm.
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Any team with a great/elite center would beat the Heat in a seven-game series.

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Any team with a great/elite center would beat the Heat in a seven-game series.
Not just center, but you need some kind of guy that can run the floor.

The Celtics and the Bulls of that time had several guys that can run the floor.

The Pacers have scoring big men, but they don't have a point guard or play maker that can cut down turnovers, reset plays, and use the scorers around him to damage the Heat. Which is why they lost in 7 instead of win in 6/7.

The Heat are a ridiculously consistent shooting team (I heard best this year in terms of FG accuracy). They are thriving off this. Their ability to also frustrate some of the NBA's better backcourts helps them to get those tough wins when they're not rebounding well.
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Yeah, I think they're #1 in FG attempts and FG %. The great FG% definitely helps make up for the rebounding weakness.

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Bill Simmons top 10 teams in NBA History
10. 91 Bulls
09. 72 Lakers
08. 83 Sixers
07. 71 Bucks
06. 97 Bulls
05. 01 Lakers
04. 89 Pistons
03. 87 Lakers
02. 96 Bulls
01. 86 Celtics

91 Bulls
PG: Paxson / Armstrong
SG: Jordan / Hodges
SF: Pippen / Hopson
PF: Grant / King / Levingston / Williams
C: Cartwright / Perdue

72 Lakers
PG: West / Cleamons
SG: Goodrich / Robinson / Riley
SF: McMillian / Erickson / Trapp
PF: Hairston
C: Chamberlain / Ellis

83 Sixers
PG: Cheeks / Edwards
SG: Toney / Richardson
SF: Erving / Johnson / Anderson
PF: Jones / Iavaroni / Schoene
C: Malone / Cureton / Johnson / McNamara

71 Bucks
PG: Robertson / Allen
SG: McGlocklin / Webb
SF: Dandridge / McLemore
PF: Smith / Boozer
C: Alcindor

97 Bulls
PG: Kerr / Brown
SG: Jordan / Harper
SF: Pippen / Kukoc / Buechler
PF: Rodman / Caffey / Simpkins
C: Longley / Wennington / Dele

01 Lakers
PG: Harper / Penberthy / Fisher / Lue
SG: Bryant / Shaw / Rider
SF: Fox / George
PF: Grant / Horry / Madsen
C: O'Neal / Foster

89 Pistons
PG: Thomas / Williams
SG: Dumars / Johnson
SF: Dantley / Aguirre
PF: Rodman / Mahorn / Salley
C: Laimbeer / Edwards

87 Lakers
PG: Johnson / Matthews
SG: Scott / Cooper
SF: Worthy / Thompson
PF: Green / Rambis / Thompson
C: Abdul-Jabbar / Smrek

96 Bulls
PG: Kerr / Harper / Brown
SG: Jordan
SF: Pippen / Kukoc / Buechler
PF: Rodman / Simpkins / Caffey
C: Longley / Wennington

86 Celtics
PG: Johnson / Sichting
SG: Ainge / Carlisle / Vincent
SF: Bird / Wedman
PF: McHale / Thirdkill
C: Parish / Walton / Kite

And then last years Heat team...
PG: Chalmers / Cole
SG: Wade / Allen
SF: Battier / Miller
PF: James / Haslem / Lewis
C: Bosh / Andersen / Anthony

Where do they rank?

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That was a shot. However, when he hits those trivelas one of two things happen-

1-Joshua has an orgasm.

2-Queresma scoress, and Joshua has an orgasm.

This time he got a lucky assist, but you can still bet Joshua had an orgasm.
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I would take 2001 Lakers in 6 over the current Heat. Shaq would eat this team for lunch.
Yeah.

I'd also take the 2005 Spurs over this Heat team.

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Bulls, quite easily.

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right now its defo chicago bulls, but there is long way to go..and if the heat gain 3 more championship they be in talk with that bulls team.

also if heat make nba finals this season, it will be first time since 1980's a team made 4 consecutive finals...
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