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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old July 28th, 2013, 09:59 Thread Starter
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NBA Point Guards- Top Tier

Chicago Bulls= Derrick Rose (top tier)
Boston Celtics= Rajon Rondo (top tier)
Indiana Pacers= CJ Watson (off-guard)
New York Knicks= Raymond Felton (terrible)
Brooklyn Nets= Deron Williams (top tier)
Philadelphia 76ers= Carter-Williams (???)
Cleveland Cavaliers= Kyrie Irving (top tier)
Detroit Pistons= Will Bynum (terrible)
Washington Wizards= John Wall (top tier)
Atlanta Hawks= Jeff Teague (legitimate)
Charlotte Bobcats= Kemba Walker (legitimate)
Toronto Raptors= Kyle Lowry (legitimate)
Orlando Magic= Jameer Nelson (terrible)
Miami Heat= LeBron James (point-forward)

Minnesota Timberwolves= Ricky Rubio (legitimate)
Los Angeles Lakers= Steve Nash (legitimate but expired)
Phoenix Suns= Goran Dragic (legitimate)
Sacramento Kings= Grievis Vasquez (legitimate)
San Antonio Spurs= Tony Parker (top tier)
Milwaukee Bucks= Luke Ridnour (terrible)
Los Angeles Clippers= Chris Paul (top tier)
Portland Trail Blazers= Damian Lillard (top tier)
Dallas Mavericks= Monta Ellis (legitimate)
New Orleans Pelicans= Jrue Holiday (legitimate)
Oklahoma City Thunder= Russel Westbrook (top tier)
Memphis Grizzlies= Mike Conley (legitimate)
Denver Nuggets= Ty Lawson (legitimate)
Utah Jazz= Trey Burke (???)
Houston Rockets= Jeremy Lin (legitimate)
Golden State Warriors- Stephen Curry (top tier)

This is my brief breakdown of the point guards in the NBA.

From what it seems, around 1/3rd of the league's point guards are top tier, able to perform day and night and play a big role in their teams.

There are a lot of point guards who are on/off and have weaker technique but they're legitimate as they get the amount of required assists each night but are capable of having bad days

The draftees I will not comment for now, though I think the Philadelphia draft will turn out terrible while the Utah draft will turn legitimate IMHO.

A few notes. Much like last season. CJ Watson is an off guard no different than George Hill but perhaps he can pass the ball a lot better than George Hill this year. LeBron James is naturally a small forward but he's playing the role of a point guard, hence he's a point-forward now, but by default Chalmers would be another off-guard.

Kemba Walker is arguably an off-guard but perhaps if he finds success he could end up becoming a legitimate point guard.
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Now after looking at the NBA during the last few seasons. We realize while there's tons of point guards in this league, they don't necessarily guarantee perfect success. It seems unlike Magic, Stockton time etc. where they played a big impact on their teams, the point guards of today need more help.

In the case of Miami, the lack of a point guard killed them against Dallas. So they decided to make James the point guard, and Chalmers the extra shooter next to Wade. Worked out for them so far.

In the case of Indiana, they tried to make off-guards and shooting guards adapt the role but we saw how terrible that was against the Heat. Ridiculous # of turnovers as Hill and Augustin couldn't even pass the freaking ball.

Some undersized shooting guards like Westbrook and Holiday have found success at the position although playing out of position but probably because of their size as undersized shooting guards which gives them excellent mobility, and their passing ability is not garbage like some of the off-guards.

Some guys like Jeremy Lin are raw talent but they're capable of too many turnovers. Some like Ty Lawson have great nights but their size leaves them vulnerable.

But with the way things are going. We're less likely to see ugly basketball in the case of undersized shooting guards like Derrick Fisher who can't create anything, and are more likely to see 1 on 1 duels between top tier point guards, and also perhaps some hope for the future to see ball handlers/point-forwards make a return to the game. LeBron James has been doing an excellent job as a point-forward. Even chasing down point guards himself. Dirk also played a bit of the position during his championship run feeding the likes of Kidd, Stevenson, Terry on the offensive end etc.

Hope to see more point-forwards and top tier point guards in play. Guys like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Scottie Pippen, Ron Harper, and Michael Jordan gave evidence that you don't have to be 5'11"-6'3" to make it work as a ball handler.
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god tier
Chris Paul

top tier
Deron Williams

quality tier

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Originally Posted by Andy Christ View Post
god tier
Chris Paul

top tier
Deron Williams

quality tier
Pretty much this except, Tony Parker should probably be up there with Chris Paul. And Ty Lawson is quality.

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