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Is Shooting Guard a dying position?

this position is growing weaker...legends like Bryant, Wade, Allen are all old and not many new great talents are emerging besides Harden (who could easily play PG as well).

Instead you have those high-scoring do-it-yourself PG's like Rose, Irving, Westbrook, Wall, Curry...is the true shooting guard becoming yesterday's position especially after Kobe and Allen both retire? It seems like soon there won't be a whole lot of SG's in All Stars games or All-NBA Teams...

And why is it happening?

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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this position is growing weaker...legends like Bryant, Wade, Allen are all old and not many new great talents are emerging besides Harden (who could easily play PG as well).

Instead you have those high-scoring do-it-yourself PG's like Rose, Irving, Westbrook, Wall, Curry...is the true shooting guard becoming yesterday's position especially after Kobe and Allen both retire? It seems like soon there won't be a whole lot of SG's in All Stars games or All-NBA Teams...

And why is it happening?
I beg to differ. The NBA is short on true power forwards. Not that many true power forwards that have a low post game.

There are a ton of shooting guards. Maybe not all have the complete package but they can at least deliver on the shooting end of the spectrum and score for their teams.

Joe Johnson
OJ Mayo
Danny Green
JR Smith (streaky)
Marcus Thornton
Kevin Martin
JJ Reddick
Eric Gordon
Wesley Matthews
Klay Thompson
Lance Stephenson
Aaron Afflalo
Dion Waiters

There are also plenty of players that clock in the 3. So there are ton of options out there.

Shooting guard and small forwards you can find. They just have to be trained under the right management which is why a guy like Kawi Leonard has been amazing under Popovich but could have turned terrible had he been under a very bad organization. He's playing the 3 but he could be on this list as well, the same with Dunleavy, and many others.
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And he left out probably the best one in James Harden.

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And he left out probably the best one in James Harden.
I left him out because he was already mentioned by Andy. I mentioned all the candidates that were strictly not mentioned at all.
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Aaron Afflalo when healthy is an awesome shooting guard after Harden. He plays on both ends of the spectrum.

Thompson and Green are some of the best options of the young generation.

Guys like Leonard and Hayward are playing at the 3 but they can function at the 2 as well.

Maybe Oladipo and McLemore can make things interesting if they blossom and don't become busts.
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I beg to differ. The NBA is short on true power forwards. Not that many true power forwards that have a low post game.

There are a ton of shooting guards. Maybe not all have the complete package but they can at least deliver on the shooting end of the spectrum and score for their teams.

Joe Johnson
OJ Mayo
Danny Green
JR Smith (streaky)
Marcus Thornton
Kevin Martin
JJ Reddick
Eric Gordon
Wesley Matthews
Klay Thompson
Lance Stephenson
Aaron Afflalo
Dion Waiters

There are also plenty of players that clock in the 3. So there are ton of options out there.

Shooting guard and small forwards you can find. They just have to be trained under the right management which is why a guy like Kawi Leonard has been amazing under Popovich but could have turned terrible had he been under a very bad organization. He's playing the 3 but he could be on this list as well, the same with Dunleavy, and many others.
well that's the thing, this position is full of mediocrity...look at this list and compare it with PG's one...or with any previous NBA era shooting guards. It is without doubt the weakest era as there are no other under 30 year old star SG's besides Harden.

As for Power forwards, it's a weird complaint given it might be the greatest PF era of all time. Duncan, Garnett, Nowitzki as basically top 5 all time on the position are still active; Bosh, Gasol and Randolph are accomplished players and there are also younger great PFs like Love, Aldridge, Ibaka.

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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