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Will Derrick Rose ever be 110% and return for the Bulls?

So apparently this tosser who's earning $20M per season has been medically cleared to play for about 3 weeks now but is sitting out the season because he doesn't think Bulls has a championship-caliber roster. All the while his teammates have been busting their ass off and playing through injuries to make it to the playoffs without him and now he doesn't even try to support them.

Probably the most disgusting, spineless act I've ever seen from a pro athlete. Unfortunately many Bulls fans seem to accept whatever their god does without much criticism. LeBron in Cleveland v2. Better trade his ass out of the Windy City before it's too late.

Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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"I'm not coming back until I'm 110%. Who knows when that can be? It can be within a couple of weeks. It could be next year. It could be any day. It could be any time. It's just that I'm not coming back until I'm ready." - Derrick Rose

what about coming back when you're medically cleared to play, when specialists say playing games is the final step of the rehab and your team desperately needs you? you know...like any other player who isn't a demigod superstar in his city would be forced to do?

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If he can play and isn't because of no championship chance. He should just sit out till 2015 and that Boozer contract to expire.

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It's typical. NBA players in general(I'm talking about the stars) do what they want. Take days off when they want and play when they feel like it. If they want the coach fired they can just go to the GM and the wish will be granted.
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Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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Silly and stupid thread. He's not entering the playoffs this year just because they're not going to win a championship (if this was the case like R10 said he'd boycott playing until Boozer is out of the franchise), he's not entering because it is a huge risk to his career...

If something dangerous happens that can be the end of his career right there. The franchise of the Bulls revolves around him. If something dangerous happens to him in the playoffs and he ends up having some serious career-threatening injury, all the time, effort, etc. the Bulls put on him will go to waste and this team will be back to where it was before Rose was drafted with no success.

He should come back to the start of next season just to be safe and I'm more than sure he'll do just that. No use in getting injured again especially if such an injury can throw away your career in an instant.
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Silly and stupid thread. He's not entering the playoffs this year just because they're not going to win a championship (if this was the case like R10 said he'd boycott playing until Boozer is out of the franchise), he's not entering because it is a huge risk to his career...

If something dangerous happens that can be the end of his career right there. The franchise of the Bulls revolves around him. If something dangerous happens to him in the playoffs and he ends up having some serious career-threatening injury, all the time, effort, etc. the Bulls put on him will go to waste and this team will be back to where it was before Rose was drafted with no success.

He should come back to the start of next season just to be safe and I'm more than sure he'll do just that. No use in getting injured again especially if such an injury can throw away your career in an instant.
how is it a huge risk to his career when he's medically cleared to play since early March and when playing games is actually the final step of the rehab? It is no less risky to come back next season than it is now. maybe he's insecure too but his brother's comments (and Rose refusing to distance himself from his brother's viewpoint in a later interview) clearly show from which direction the wind is blowing.

lol @ the Bulls "fans" like you...apparently you think it's okay for one player to consider himself to be above the interests of the team. Could you imagine something like this occurring in NFL or soccer? Even the players of Cristiano Ronaldo's or Rooney's stature would be absolutely slaughtered by the press and the fans alike if they dared to pull a stunt like this.

If you're medically cleared to play then you should play. End of. If you don't then you don't deserve to be paid.

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Shumpert and Rubio went down with the same injury around the same time. Both have been back for 2-3 months now. Infact starting to look like the players they were before the injury for about a month now.

Rose has been practicing and scrimmaging for over a month now, been cleared to play for over a month now. It's just ridiculous he hasn't started playing yet. Got nothing to do with re-aggravating the injury.

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fk the quitter...Bulls should trade him for somebody who gives a damn.

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Noah playing his ass off on one leg, while this guy is sitting out because hes like 99% and not a 110%.

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Column: Derrick Rose owned Chicago but not anymore :dielaugh:

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Worse, some of the same qualities that endeared Rose to his hometown - toughness, humility and the kind of quiet leadership that inspired teammates to play hard all the time - are working against him now. No matter how honestly he tries to assess things - ''...I'm only 24 years old, I've got the whole future in front of me.'' - the words wind up being thrown back in his face. In what can only be called the most deranged reaction, a fan in Peoria reportedly filed a lawsuit claiming that Rose's absence caused him to suffer emotional distress and eat his way to obesity.

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If ever there was going to be the perfect, if overdue, moment for Derrick Rose to return to action for the Chicago Bulls, it would be a Game 7 in the NBA playoffs, with his team desperate for help, facing the Brooklyn Nets in a hostile building …

Stop. Rose won’t be walking through that door for the Bulls Saturday night, even if he does have more spring in his step than Willis Reed did 43 years ago on the other side of the East River, limping back for a Game 7 and straight into sports mythology. The Captain only stuck around long enough to hit two shots and inspire the New York Knicks to their first championship. Rose would seem to have that much in him, in what would likely be a 15-20 minutes limit whenever he actually does return to action. And of course we’re wasting our time and our typing here.

After all, Rose’s extended layoff from knee surgery last May – we’re at 51 weeks now – could have had its perfect ending in Game 6 Thursday at United Center, where a packed arena’s warm embrace for however long he lasted might have been enough to propel the Bulls into the second round already. It could have come two weeks ago, synchronized to the start of a postseason he missed last spring. It could have come last month or sometime after the All-Star break, when word began leaking out from behind the practice curtains that, in 5-on-5 scrimmaging, that the 2011 MVP was looking as good as ever.

The arc of Rose’s repair and rehabilitation from ACL surgery has gone from anticipatory to antsy to anticlimax. It has overstayed its welcome in the Windy City, like the occasional stubborn winter, and as with the Chicago Cubs’ ridiculous drought, a numbness and a whole lot of scoffing is settling in for some folks. If they did not laugh, they would cry.

But there’s more floating out there than jokes. During the Game 5 telecast Monday, TNT analyst Steve Kerr was critical of Rose for his refusal to take that last big step of rehab, testing all that work and dedication where it matters most, in an NBA game, for a team in need. Multiple Bulls players have been pushing through bruises, pain and illness, while Rose still monitors the repair of a year-old injury (April 28, 2012, to be exact).

“I know I’ve kind of changed my mind,” Kerr said on-air. “I’ve really supported the Bulls and Derrick with the way they’ve handled it. I think you err on the side of caution. But I think where the Bulls are now with this series with [backup point guard] Kirk Hinrich struggling with the calf injury — if Derrick is OK and there’s no threat to further injury, I think he’s got to play.”

It’s that kind of talk, not just from Kerr but all over sports-radio airwaves and the Internet, that has dinged Rose’s reputation. As beloved in his short career as any Chicago sports star save one, Rose’s hesitancy to play until he’s fully “comfortable” or regains “muscle memory” has some people questioning his courage, his character, his commitment, you name it. It is as irrational as it was inevitable with a layoff this long, fan stuff of impatience mixed with the coverage of the other hobbled Bulls as “gamers.”

Rose told reporters at the Bulls’ shootaround Saturday in New York that he hadn’t heard the criticism. “That’s my first time hearing about it,” he said in another too-rare media moment. “I barely turn on the TV. I’m with my son all day so that’s about it.”

None of the second-guessing is coming from the organization or his teammates. Coach Tom Thibodeau and Hinrich, as all of them have for months, gave Rose absolute votes of confidence Wednesday. Still, the Bulls and Rose failed each other by failing to keep everyone – not just themselves but the media and the fans – in the loop. They let him, his agents, his family and his sneaker partners (adidas) dictate the terms of communication, kept at a trickle, that bled away empathy and heightened suspicions. Monthly sit-downs with Bulls reporters would have provided better feedback, kept Rose’s affable personality front and center and calmed if not satisfied the locals.

The Bulls also should have avoided distractions, speculation and all this angst by shutting down Rose’s will-he-or-won’t-he return about six weeks ago. Did they really want to overlay the learning curve of his return onto their playoff preparation, risking other guys’ roles and rhythms? Did they seriously consider throwing him raw out there against a Brooklyn backcourt of Deron Williams and Joe Johnson? Would they seriously put Rose as red meat in front of the Dobermans from Miami, if they made it to the next round?

Come on. Who’s believes this stuff?

There would have been nothing wrong had Rose and the Bulls tossed the entire 2012-13 season aside and simply let everyone know the plan, assuming they had a plan. If this truly was matter of, physically and mentally waking up each day and gauging his health and his confidence, OK, fine. Even that would have gone done better if not for the elaborate, expensive series of shoe commercials – “The Return” – that made it look as if Bulls fans would be getting Rose as “Rocky” sooner rather than later.

The long, unsatisfying NBA season in Chicago is nearing an end. When Rose does come back in October, he’ll turn this all into a win-win: Show rust and people will nod, agreeing finally (and probably wrongly, since rust is part of these things whenever) that he needed another five months. Play great and the uber-cautious strategy will seem like genius, and the teeth-gnashing of this spring will fade away.

It’s just difficult for a lot of folks over the next few hours or days knowing that – with Hinrich’s calf, Luol Deng‘s illness, Joakim Noah‘s plantar fasciitis, Taj Gibson‘s knee and Nate Robinson‘s towel-and-bucket routine Thursday – the healthiest guy on the Chicago roster might be Derrick Rose.


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I think he's playing tonight.

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Rose talks:

"It's been hard," he admitted. "But I'm able to get past it knowing that my teammates, they're out there playing hard, giving it everything they got so that's all I can could ask for."

Rose dismissed the notion that his brother, Reggie, and his agent, former Bull B.J. Armstrong were telling him to sit out for the entire year.

"If anything it's up to me," he said. "My brother and them can't tell me what to do with my body. They just give me control. I'm in control of the whole process so it's really all on me."

Rose said that the benefit of sitting out the whole year would be that he has more time to get to a place both mentally and physically where he feels comfortable.

"Being healthy, heath-wise," he said. "Where if I do take the whole year off, if I don't play anymore, I know I'm going to come back a better player but I guess my body would be healed more but who knows?"

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it's been hard for him to continue sitting out being perfectly healthy but at least he's finding consolation in seeing his teammates battle through injuries and sickness...what?

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I liked Rose before, but now I have lost most of the respect I had for him, also didnt like Jeremy Lin when he was only around 80-90% last season and didnt play vs Miami inthe playoffs ...

Noah should get Rose's contract, what a fighter.
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When Noah is finished due to playing with injuries and Rose is still playing because he took this season off, you will rethink that contract comment.

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Big games are easy than the other games, unfortunately. Every times we have the control the games, under the control the games, during the games we had the some possibilities, some big chances, some big okazyons, something like that but what can I do, sometimes? And….it’s the football, that’s the football, something happened. Everything is something happened. - Fatih Terim
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