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Jordan calls Bryant’s Dream Team comments ‘laughable’

Michael Jordan said there’s no way Kobe Bryant and this year’s USA Olympic basketball team could have beaten the 1992 Dream Team.

Jordan told The Associated Press Thursday that he laughed – “I absolutely laughed” – when hearing Bryant’s comments that the squad training in Las Vegas could take Jordan and company.
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Jordan said there’s “no comparison” which team is better.

“For him to compare those two teams is not one of the smarter things he ever could have done,” Jordan said prior playing in a celebrity golf tournament in Charlotte.

Jordan said the 1992 team, which included 11 future Hall of Famers and won its six Olympic games by an average of more than 43 points en route to capturing the gold medal, was a better overall team largely because of the experience it put on the floor.

“I heard Kobe say we were not athletic,” said a smiling Jordan as he sat in a golf cart puffing on his cigar while waiting to tee off. “But we were smart. He said we were too old, but I was 29 and in the prime of my career. Pip (Scottie Pippen) was 26 or 27, (Charles) Barkley was 29, Patrick (Ewing) was 29 and Chris Mullin was 29. Almost everybody was still in their twenties.”

Jordan’s response came after Bryant told reporters in Las Vegas that this year’s team could pull out a win against the Dream Team if they faced each other in their primes. Bryant said this year’s team has a bunch of racehorses, players who are incredibly athletic while the Dream Team consisted mainly of players at the tail end of their careers.”

Bryant’s comments received immediate and sharp rebuttal from some members of the Dream Team, including Barkley.

Jordan joined in on Thursday.

“Most of us were in the prime of our careers, at a point where athleticism doesn’t really matter,” said Jordan, the owner of the Charlotte Bobcats. “You have to know how to play the game.”

Jordan shook his head when asked why he thinks Bryant made the comments.

“I imagine he’s trying to say it to legitimize his own Dream Team,” Jordan said. “But to me it’s not even a question what team is better.”

Jordan said Bryant is certainly entitled to his opinion – even though he said it’s just plain wrong.

“For him to make that comparison, it’s one of those things where it creates conversation,” Jordan said. “I guess we’ll never know. I’d like to think that we had 11 Hall of Famers on that team and whenever they get 11 Hall of Famers you call and ask me who had the better Dream Team. Remember now, they learned from us. We didn’t learn from them.”

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post #2 of 57 (permalink) Old July 13th, 2012, 12:55
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Yeah they could win, but probably wouldn't looking at the names on papers.
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Add me to those thinking that the current Dream Team would have beaten the old one!

The current generation has the same amount of talent but are more athletic.

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only one team had a magic, and only one team could fly like jordan.

Not a comparison.
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laughed? kobe should lol back @ his bobcats then :dielaugh:

but in all seriousness, yeah ofcourse they can beat them in a game, but as big of a kobe fan i am, i doubt the current team can get the better of them consistently in multiple matches. if they played 5 games, i'm counting on the original dream team to win 3 or 4 out of 5. the current team would simply get killed for height, that team had big monsters like ewing, robinson, barkley etc, taking up majority of the offensive and defensive boards.

that said, i do like kobe's response:

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Here's Kobe Bryant's full, must-read response to Michael Jordan's Dream Team trash talk. Jordan said he laughed when he heard Bryant said the 2012 USA Basketball team could beat the 1992 Dream Team. Bryant's post-game response after USA defeated Dominican Republic in Las Vegas on Thursday night: "So what, he knows I'm a bad motherfucker. I'm not tripping. The fact is, they have Ewing and Robinson and those big guys, it's tough. If you're asking me, 'Can you beat them one game?' Hell yeah, we can beat them in one game. You didn't ask me if we could beat them in a 7-game series. In one game, we can beat them. No question about it."
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Add me to those thinking that the current Dream Team would have beaten the old one!

The current generation has the same amount of talent but are more athletic.
Westbrook?
Harden?
Iguodala?
Chandler?


There's even too many players not playing this year for me to even take Kobe seriously. Kobe still probably thinks he is the best player in the NBA.

Dream team has better perimeter defence and better inside defence as well as having a clear advantage in the post. Malone, Barkley, Robinson and Ewing would take Chandler, Love and Griffin/Davis to school.
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The game has evolved, ridiculous to do a direct comparison.

Don't understand why Jordan's downplaying the team ahead of a tournament, but then you never know with quotes and wordfeuds in the press.

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they're just ultra competitive ma'fcukers. i would've lost some respect for kobe had he said "i have my doubts about beating them".

if kobe played in the original dream team, and jordan was leading the current one, you'd bet your balls michael would say "fvck yeah, we could beat 'em, and wipe the floor with them too". it's just who they are, what makes them winners.

doesn't mean they're always right though..
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1992 - 2012
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Magic / Paul
Stockton / Williams
Jordan / Bryant
Drexler / Westbrook
------ / Harden

Forwards
Bird / James
Malone / Anthony
Barkley / Love
Pippin / Iguodala
Mullin / Durant
Laettner / Davis

Centers
Robinson / Chandler
Ewing

Cmon now. 1992 pisses all over 2012.

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yea, whats kobe smokin...

Larry Bird is still better than anyone on this current dream team! nevermind magic and Jordan!

Where were you when we lost 1-7?
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MJ mentioned something extremely important. While the current team is superior in the athletic department, the Dream Team is much more intelligent. I can see someone like Larry Bird who lacks athleticism use his dexterity and skill to make LeBron James look like a fool. Athleticism isn't everything in the NBA.

Defense is another factor.

Westbrook is not a point guard (could get exploited by Stockton)

College experience

etc.

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1992:

PG) Magic
SG) Jordan
SF) Bird
PF) Barkley
C) Robinson

2012:

PG) Paul
SG) Bryant
SF) James
PF) Anthony
C) Chandler

Comparison:

PG: Magic over CP3.
SG: MJ over Bryant
SF: Bird = LeBron (I will probably take a lot of heat for that, no pun intended)
PF: Anthony over Barkley
C: Robinson over Chandler

So 1992 takes the cake over the 2012 starters. But what about depth? The 2012 bench is much better than 1992.

1992:

PG: Stockton
SG: Mullin
SF: Pippen
PF: Malone
C: Ewing

2012:

PG: Williams
SG: Westbrook
SF: Iguodala
PF: Durant
C: Davis

Comparison:

PG: Deron over Stockton
SG: Westbrook over Mullin
SF: Pippen over Iguodala
PF: Durant over Malone
C: Can't really compare, Davis hasn't even set foot on an NBA court yet.

Overall, 2012 USA has a better squad. In a 7 game series, I would say it could go 4-3 for 2012 USA.

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You people realize Bird and to a lesser extent Magic were totally finished in 1992?? Krzyzewski has said that Bird couldn't keep up for shit at that time.. he really struggled. Kobe said that one of the reasons this team could beat the original dream team is that some players(he was talking about Bird and Magic) were way past their prime.

Barkley and Jordan were at their prime and that team definitely had size but I think it's an unfair comparison because this current team is missing many players due to injuries(Howard, Bynum, Rose, Wade, Bosh,etc)

btw athleticism and speed > size/intelligence(as MJ claimed) any day OKC and Miami proved this against Boston and Spurs.
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1992:

PG) Magic
SG) Jordan
SF) Bird
PF) Barkley
C) Robinson

2012:

PG) Paul
SG) Bryant
SF) James
PF) Anthony
C) Chandler

Comparison:

PG: Magic over CP3.
SG: MJ over Bryant
SF: Bird = LeBron (I will probably take a lot of heat for that, no pun intended)
PF: Anthony over Barkley
C: Robinson over Chandler

So 1992 takes the cake over the 2012 starters. But what about depth? The 2012 bench is much better than 1992.

1992:

PG: Stockton
SG: Mullin
SF: Pippen
PF: Malone
C: Ewing

2012:

PG: Williams
SG: Westbrook
SF: Iguodala
PF: Durant
C: Davis

Comparison:

PG: Deron over Stockton
SG: Westbrook over Mullin
SF: Pippen over Iguodala
PF: Durant over Malone
C: Can't really compare, Davis hasn't even set foot on an NBA court yet.

Overall, 2012 USA has a better squad. In a 7 game series, I would say it could go 4-3 for 2012 USA.
You think Melo is better than Barkley in his prime? The same Melo that has been out of the first round of the playoffs only once in his career? That same Melo that has been in the league for like nine seasons and has seen many players just achieve much more than him?

I love Paul and Williams and to me they are both top ten NBA players and top three at there position a long with Rose, but they are not better than 1992 Stockton. (Not yet anyway, both are young enough to to make it debatable in a few years).

Drexler was the back up 2 guard; not Mullin, and even then Westbrook is not the elite player that Mullin was especially during the time.

There's also players like Isiah Thomas and Wilkins that weren't in the dream team in 1992 but would easily get into this current squad.

This generation could grow into something special and exceed what those in 1992 were able to accomplish but I doubt it. That generation of players were truly special. Howard for example is easily the best centre of this generation, yet he cannot compare as of right now to Robinson and Ewing. Even Olajuwon and Shaq are levels above Dwight. I think only Bryant, James and Durant would make that Dream team over Drexler, Mullin and Laettner.

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Jordan/Bryant/Drexler
James/Pippen/Durant (23 Durant vs. 36 Bird, career wise it's easily Bird)
Malone/Barkley
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Comparison:

PG: Magic over CP3.
SG: MJ over Bryant
SF: Bird = LeBron (I will probably take a lot of heat for that, no pun intended)
PF: Anthony over Barkley
C: Robinson over Chandler

So 1992 takes the cake over the 2012 starters. But what about depth? The 2012 bench is much better than 1992.

1992:

PG: Stockton
SG: Mullin
SF: Pippen
PF: Malone
C: Ewing

2012:

PG: Williams
SG: Westbrook
SF: Iguodala
PF: Durant
C: Davis

Comparison:

PG: Deron over Stockton
SG: Westbrook over Mullin
SF: Pippen over Iguodala
PF: Durant over Malone
C: Can't really compare, Davis hasn't even set foot on an NBA court yet.

Overall, 2012 USA has a better squad. In a 7 game series, I would say it could go 4-3 for 2012 USA.
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Also LeBron is easily better than Bird anno 1992 when he was already physically finished as a pro basketballer as his back was killing him.

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Lol @ Melo over Barkley, even bigger lol @ Durant over Mailman. And Williams over Stockton is just plain stupid.

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Kobe Bryant must have been paid off by ESPN to say that. What a ratings booster. They have been talking this nonstop for days.

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Kobe Bryant must have been paid off by ESPN to say that. What a ratings booster. They have been talking this nonstop for days.
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