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post #16741 of 16772 (permalink) Old April 18th, 2019, 13:02
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You really love Zaniolo

Interestingly enough I don't recall anyone on this forum calling for Zaniolo to be given a chance at Inter last season when he was at the club..But suddenly he is the new Messi and Inter should have kept him because he scored twice against a mediocre Porto and a couple of other goals or so. ok..

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He has shown just a months after leaving you, that he is a top talent that you made a mistake on letting go, why is that hard to acknowledge? Yeah it was not easy to know at the time he would have a role to play in Inter set up, but it doesnt sound like he was even considered despite you being the ones that should known him best of all. Now he is one of the premier future players of italian football. And lost for what? To save few millions in a deal you would easily could have done without inserting him.

Its like if Juve had just given Kean in trade for nothing when trying to sign Bernardeschi or something. It would been a horrible horrible mistake.

Not all too suprising tho since Inter are prone to do that, because their ever changing management set up is too shortsighted, has had few of the best italiant youngsters in a while but it seems your talents tend to turn into players they are elsewhere instead.

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post #16742 of 16772 (permalink) Old April 18th, 2019, 13:04
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Signing a player from Man City would be nice, especially one who Pep wants to keep. I am all for bringing in experienced players, and Gundogan has won stuff. This is the type we need. Like Godin.

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Juventus were relegated to Serie B along with their reputation.
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He has shown just a months after leaving you, that he is a top talent that you made a mistake on letting go, why is that hard to acknowledge? Yeah it was not easy to know at the time he would have a role to play in Inter set up, but it doesnt sound like he was even considered despite you being the ones that should known him best of all. Now he is one of the premier future players of italian football. And lost for what? To save few millions in a deal you would easily could have done without inserting him.

Its like if Juve had just given Kean in trade for nothing when trying to sign Bernardeschi or something. It would been a horrible horrible mistake.

Not all too suprising tho since Inter are prone to do that, because their ever changing management set up is too shortsighted, has had few of the best italiant youngsters in a while but it seems your talents tend to turn into players they are elsewhere instead.
Zaniolo's goals and assists tally isn't superior compared to the attacking players we have currently and it's not like he is leading Roma to the Treble, is he? So as it stands i don't regret him leaving. Simply because he wouldn't even have played to begin with at Inter this season had he stayed. And even if he did stay, his contribution wouldn't have changed us from competing for 3rd/4th to winning the league or any trophy for that matter.

If Zaniolo ends up joining juve and winning the league or Bayern and winning the CL, scoring 10 and assisting 10 in a season, I will admit it was wrong to let go of him. Even if in hindsight..

A lot of the Primavera youngsters we let go of don't amount to anything big afterwards. Want a list?

Dino Marino (such a cool name), Robert Acquafresca, Mattia Destro, Nicola Beati, Attila Filkor, Issah Eliakwu, Tijani Belaid, Goran Slavkovski (if I remember the name correctly), Mattia Altobelli, Ibrahim Maaroufi, Filippo Mancini, Donkor, Rene Krhin, Tremolada, Caldirola, Federico Bonazzoli, etc.. and others whom I have forgotten. In my time as a fan the majority of the Inter Primavera players don't have great careers, a player like Balotelli or my boy Oba Martins are exceptions. And even those 2 didn't last a long time at Inter's first team.. although they did well in their time here.

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You genuinely dont regret it? Or is it a pride thing? I watched Roma games to see him, he looks so fantastic almost every time (atleast under DiFra, Ranieri doesnt use him in same way), its not only about numbers, he is still a teen, but he seems to have the complete package. Its defenitely a very regrettable mistake to give him away for nothing, it should been obvious to your management that he has the quality to have a future in Inter.



And I dont mean just primavera, but you already talked about it, the impatient shortsighted approach has been there for many Inter managements, wether its not seeing Bonucci's quality when selling him as trade piece, the awful trading away of Pirlo for nothing, or even Balotelli despite being an idiot not having future with you despite the amazing start to his career. Doesnt seem to have enough long term planning to see the assets you have (tho I cant really blame you for Balo). IMO Zaniolo is defenitely gonna turn out to be such a case. He is just to skilled, physically equipped to not become an exceptional player in the top level, he gets highlights for goals, but its more about his combination play, decision making, so big that most midfielders cant do much against him when he holds up the ball. He is still quite raw due to the age, but pretty much checks every box you need at this level already.


If you get the economic strenght enough, and he doesnt leave Roma to soon, you should defenitely see if you can buy him back.
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You genuinely dont regret it? Or is it a pride thing?.
With N4L it's just a pride thing.

Same as with Coutinho.

No point really having a debate with him about it.

He usually just cites the fact that Team X with Player Y hasn't won a Treble. By that logic Spurs should have traded Kane for Wayne Rooney years ago....
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I also agree with Oz's assessment of Zaniolo, as does Mancini, the management of Bayern Munich, and most of Italy.

The important thing on this Inter forum is to never actually watch Zaniolo play but make decisions on his ability based on a) the fact he diesnt play for Inter anymoŕe and b) 2 statistical variables: goals and assist. The latter is helpful because it means you never actually have to watch a Roma match
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In actual news:

- Tagliafico's agent has hinted the player could be interested in a transfer to Inter. Good player. A LOT better than the terrible Asamoah.

He won't be cheap though

- There are rumours Gundogan WILL renew with City. With his injury record he is a gamble either way. And he didn't exactly do a good midfield-screening job against Spurs on Wednesday..... Very good player but not a DM and there are drawbacks (wages, injuries etc)

- More noises about Dzeko agreeing a transfer with a ridiculous wage of 4.5 m a season I get that the club wants to save €€€ on a striker and that every sane person wants Lautaro to be the focus of the attack in the long-term... But Dzeko has really had a patchy season and is clearly on the decline.... He would be good as a free transfer on a lower wage, but at 12m euros and 4.5m a season... And this for a guy who might only have one season left at the top level Anyway, let's hope this is just media B.S.

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Its like if Juve had just given Kean in trade for nothing when trying to sign Bernardeschi or something. It would been a horrible horrible mistake.
It would be more like if Juve had lost Kean to get Matuidi - and Matuidi turned out to be sh*t in 70% of the games he plays and was injured for half a season and told his friends he wanted a transfer back to PSG

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Thats more apt comparison indeed. I wouldnt be able to stomach seeing Kean play with Mbappe and Neymar lol.


And yeah Dzeko is a alarming possibility for a dud due to age and current season, but he might too be an alright stopgap for post Icardi years, until you find a true striker.

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until you find a true striker.
huh??

We have one

6 goals in 10 starts in his first season in Italy. And he will have more goals before the season is out.


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I havent seen you play much during (and since) the time Icardi was out on strike (lol), prior to that I wasnt too impressed with what I saw from Lautaro, so I did not know you consider him as a legit replacement for Icardi.

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I havent seen you play much during (and since) the time Icardi was out on strike (lol), prior to that I wasnt too impressed with what I saw from Lautaro, so I did not know you consider him as a legit replacement for Icardi.
I'm not sure he is ready to be the go to guy for an entire season, but if the choice is between Lautaro or Dzeko I'd definitely choose Lautaro.

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I can understand that, its not the Dzeko who scorred 28 Serie A goals the previous season right now, he looks kinda outta it this season.

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prior to that I wasnt too impressed with what I saw from Lautaro, so I did not know you consider him as a legit replacement for Icardi.
Right, so the whole thing centers around Lautaro's performances since F**kFace went on strike.

He has basically been great in almost every game since Icardashian threw his toys out of the pram.

Lautaro's game off the ball and general involvement in the play are far better than Icardi's. He is also very clearly a technically better player (dribbling, control etc.). His penalty box movement is not at Icardi's level and may never be, but I think his finishing will reach the same level eventually.

My ideal scenario for next season would be to have Zapata and Lautaro vying for the CF spot. Both are players who can deal with the bench at a club as big as Inter. Dzeko is a waste of time and money (wages)....
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Right, so the whole thing centers around Lautaro's performances since F**kFace went on strike.

He has basically been great in almost every game since Icardashian threw his toys out of the pram.

Lautaro's game off the ball and general involvement in the play are far better than Icardi's. He is also very clearly a technically better player (dribbling, control etc.). His penalty box movement is not at Icardi's level and may never be, but I think his finishing will reach the same level eventually.

My ideal scenario for next season would be to have Zapata and Lautaro vying for the CF spot. Both are players who can deal with the bench at a club as big as Inter. Dzeko is a waste of time and money (wages)....

Zapata would represent a bigger transfer fee though, and he isn't exactly young. You should buy players who are more same age as up-coming core of players to time your push.
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It also does make sense to get an experienced striker like Dzeko, who's proven in the league and in Europe, essentially a known quantity and a guy who at this point in his career will inevitably become a sub in any big team sooner rather than later, to smooth Lautaro's transition into your main man. Dzeko is also generally a very useful player if you play a certain way, even he's not scoring so much.

Zapata is much more exciting right now of course and offers some of the same attributes but is less "proven" (and of course has some other qualities than Dzeko, but also is less good at certain things), but is six years younger and like camel says I'd imagine would demand a much heftier fee and similarly high wages -- this would be his big contract.

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Looks like Inter are in advanced negotiations for both Dzeko (10m) and Danilo (22m) of Man City.

Danilo is OK but I would have preferred Tagliafico.

Anyway, a market of Godin, Danilo and Dzeko before the summer has even started is OK IMO.

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It also does make sense to get an experienced striker like Dzeko, who's proven in the league and in Europe, essentially a known quantity and a guy who at this point in his career will inevitably become a sub in any big team sooner rather than later, to smooth Lautaro's transition into your main man. Dzeko is also generally a very useful player if you play a certain way, even he's not scoring so much.
He had a brilliant game against Inter on Saturday. De Vrij struggled with him. His finishing let him down on a couple of occassions, but his overall game was really good considering he didn't get much support from Under/Zaniolo/Kluivert.

And Lautaro had what I thought was probably his worst game for Inter (at least as a CF)

I'm just worried next season might be one season too far for him at the top level. But let's see.
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Does anyone actually follow this thread? Hehe. If not I'll stop posting this stuff....

Anyway:

Di Marzio: “Icardi Will Only Leave Inter In A Swap Deal”

If Mauro Icardi is to leave Inter in the upcoming Summer transfer window it will only be in a swap deal according to Sky Sport journalist Gianluca Di Marzio.

“Because of the events that have happened this year between the Nerazzurri and the former captain, the hypotheses regarding his future are open,” he said.

“All the clubs know that Maurito is easier to reach than in the past and I believe that a possible transfer away from Inter can only be done through a swap deal.“It is hard for any club to come up with the money [to meet his €110 million release clause].

It is complicated for someone like Napoli due to the salary the Argentine receives.“It is the same situation for Cavani, whose €12 million net salary would blow up the Inter wage structure. If I were to give a concrete exchange, I would say that Manchester United’s Romelu Lukaku.”
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Tutto Sh*te saying De Paul to Inter is already done for 30m after meeting between Marotta and the player's agent. Could be total BS of course.....

I watched him last night and he was clearly Udinese's best player (he hit the post while it was 0-0 around the 70th minute and could have done us a favour... ah well) BUT to me he looks a 20m euro player (max). Hard working and a good long range shot. Not a typical winger. Reminds me a tiny bit of Nainggolan actually.

Anyway, let's see. Apparently another winger will arrive as well

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