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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old December 16th, 2016, 05:05 Thread Starter
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Romanian Player of the Year 2016

PREVIOUS XTRATIME PLAYERS OF THE YEAR:


2001: Cosmin Contra
2002: Cristian Chivu
2003: Adrian Mutu
2004: Adrian Neaga
2005: Mirel Radoi
2006: Nicolae Dica
2007: Adrian Mutu
2008: Dorin Goian
2009: Razvan Rat
2010: Cristian Chivu
2011: Lucian Sanmartean
2012: Raul Rusescu
2013: Vlad Chiriches
2014: Lucian Sanmartean
2015: Costel Pantilimon


We'll give 3, 2 and 1 point to three different players. Obviously the only requirement is they have to be Romanians (it doesn't matter if they play in Romania or abroad).


In 12 days (28 December), the voting will be closed and I'll count the points of every player. In the case of a tie in the first place, the winner will be the player with more '3 points' votes.
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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old December 16th, 2016, 05:32
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Stanciu, Alibec, Andone, R. Marin are probably the players I'll be choosing from.

If I don't update the post by the 28th, assume the list is ordered, i.e. Stanciu 1st, etc.

1) Stanciu (since he had some success for the NT too)
2) Alibec
3) Andone

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post #3 of 29 (permalink) Old December 16th, 2016, 11:05
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Romanian Player of the Year 2016

1) Stanciu 2) Andone 3) Alibec

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Romanian Player of the Year 2016

Claudiu's three picks:

1) Stefan Radu
The defender is the most important player for Lazio and has not been given any recognition on this forum for being the most talented, consistent , active Romanian player in the past decade.

2) Florin Andone
Certainly a close second, mostly because he was in the second league and Radu surpasses an "in prime" Chivu in my opinion.

3)Tatarasanu
Plays every game for Fiorentina, and is a world class goal keeper.

If anyone thinks I'm making this up I can send a PM to GICA with a screenshot of the FB conversation as proof.

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His right to vote for Stefan Radu of course, but Radu probably forgot he's Romanian by now. Definitely won't get any votes from me.
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Alibec won the GSP award.

Alibec: "What did Stanciu win at Steaua to be above me? This trophy is mine, he had no chances."





Radu surpasses an 'in prime' Chivu says Claudiu?
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If anyone thinks I'm making this up I can send a PM to GICA with a screenshot of the FB conversation as proof.
So you created a 2nd Facebook account?! This is obviously all made up

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Alibec: "What did Stanciu win at Steaua to be above me? This trophy is mine, he had no chances."
Players like Alibec never disappoint


My order for now:
1. Andone
2. Marin
3. Stanciu
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1.Stanciu
2.Tatarusanu
3.Alibec

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So you created a 2nd Facebook account?! This is obviously all made up





Players like Alibec never disappoint





Haha, shit I forgot about that. Well, he's got foresta and rumaniac on there too so they can vouch for me

Alibec is cocky but I guess it's nice to see him get that recognition


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Tatarusanu won his place at Fiorentina but his role at the Euro's was dissapointing, I hardly see him in a top-5 in this year.
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Radu surpasses an 'in prime' Chivu says Claudiu?
He also says Chipciu is better than the people we've been voting for
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Claudiu explanation:

Lazio's defense is nothing without Radu. The irony is that he is a simple defender, but extremely effective. He adds stability to the backline and has been a title contender for many years on a mid-budget Serie A team. We gave Mutu incredible accolades for being in the same position, yet we are unfair to Radu who has been very important year after year for Lazio.

Chivu in his prime played in the shadows and aided by other players. We clearly saw how short shelved he was when he got to Roma and Mexes bailed him out night after night.

Radu deserves more credit, playing for Romania or not.

He's played 14 times for Lazio, rating of 7.00. 13 times last year, 7.00 average. He is by far our most consistent player at the top level.

Radu has 2 goals in Lazio this season in 14 games. Passing percentage of 84 percent. Lazuli are 8 wins, 4 draws, 3 losses with him at CB. Only 13 goals against in his 14 games. Without radu in the lineup, 7 goals against in 3 games.


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Too many stats. In football stats aren't as important as in other sports.

I rate highly Radu btw. But international sphere is very relevant in the career of a player, and he renounced to it. He's an ok player in a big league (for our footballers that means a lot), but he lacks that international pedigree...


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IMO there are 3 important spheres we have to think about in the moment of voting here:

-Clubs sphere: How the player did with his club/clubs in this year. How regular he was. How important he is. His status (regular starter/reserve). European tournaments are especially relevant.

-International sphere: How the player did with the NT. Regularity. Importance. Status. Especially relevant in the years with a final tournament.

-Titles: IMO not as important as the other two spheres, but they count especially if the player was important for winning those titles.


Unfortunately the NT is a negative point for all our players this year, except maybe Marin and Stanciu for his first games (he didn't deliver in France).
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But international sphere is very relevant in the career of a player, and he renounced to it.
Exactly. He wasn't snubbed, or anything like that. He gave up. So a very different case to, e.g. Mutu or Lucian.
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Looks like it's very close between Stanciu and Andone now and one of them will win this...
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Too many stats. In football stats aren't as important as in other sports.

I rate highly Radu btw. But international sphere is very relevant in the career of a player, and he renounced to it. He's an ok player in a big league (for our footballers that means a lot), but he lacks that international pedigree...


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IMO there are 3 important spheres we have to think about in the moment of voting here:

-Clubs sphere: How the player did with his club/clubs in this year. How regular he was. How important he is. His status (regular starter/reserve). European tournaments are especially relevant.

-International sphere: How the player did with the NT. Regularity. Importance. Status. Especially relevant in the years with a final tournament.

-Titles: IMO not as important as the other two spheres, but they count especially if the player was important for winning those titles.


Unfortunately the NT is a negative point for all our players this year, except maybe Marin and Stanciu for his first games (he didn't deliver in France).

I completely agree. However, Claudiu´s portrait of Radu is spot on. He is our most regular player abroad, and he could compete for player of the year. But he made his choice. In every contest I´ve seen, he´s barely considered, by journalists, players and fans. So the opinion of leaving him out is widespread. It would be extremely weird to give the price (not this one of course, but the GSP one for instance) to a player that refuses to play for Romania
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I´n not sure about the winner but it´s interesting to discuss it:

Alibec: Won the league with Astra, being their prime figure after Budescu´s departure. Many said he won the title singlehandedly. His form in the playoff (where every match was a final) was impressive. He showed he could play under pressure (For example his fantastic hat trick vs Dinamo or his game vs Steaua). After his injury at the Euro, it took him a whle to come back. But he came back and was key in the series vs West Ham, when Astra was in a terrible moment. He was also key in the groups, with 3 goals. Qualifying to european spring with a romanian team is a huge achievement currently.
On the NT I think he wasn´t given real chances. Only minutes now and then, but no intention t make him the player he is at Astra. But, he didn´t have Stanciu or Marin´s inmediate impact.
His attitude is many times a problem, and that prevents him from being a top player, but not romanian player of the year.

Stanciu: Great performances for Steaua (specially the series vs Sparta, when he won it by himself), but no titles. Doing well at Anderlecht, after a very expensive transfer, but far from his best level yet.
Had an impressive start for the NT, not only he adapted fast but was expected to be a star. That has been too much for him so far, in such a poor team

Andone : Incredible form for Cordoba on the second division, and after a rough start, great performances for Deportivo. The fact that he is the only romanian offensive player doing well on a top league, should raise his status.
For the NT he was below par (zero goals this year), and he was given much more chances than Alibec.

Tatarusanu: Starter for Fiorentina, which is really valuable, but without consistent performances. Bad year for the NT

Marin : Had a great second semester, spceacially on the last months. For me he is the young player of the year without a doubt. Also a key player for a Viitorul that leads the league.
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It's no surprise Andone did "bad" in the NT, we create almost no chances.
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My votes:

1.Stanciu
2.Andone
3.Alibec


I admit that with a couple of goals with the NT I'd have given my main vote to Andone. Very, very close to Stanciu.

Stanciu's games against Sparta were key.
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Ok, considering it´s quite even I´ll allow myself a little bias


1_ Alibec
2_ Andone
3_ Stanciu
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