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Ramadan 2006 / 1427 thread

Happy Ramadan people.

So when does Ramadan start? Every other person here is saying either 23rd or 24th of September.

The Hijri Calendar I have here says Ramadan 1 lands on Sept 23. Same as the Hijri calendar converters as well.

Don't lament the treachery of time;
long have dogs danced over the carcasses of lions.

Don't suppose that their dancing raises them above their masters;
for dogs remain dogs, and lions remain lions.

Insult me as you wish;
For my silence to the depraved is a response.

It's not that I have no response, but;
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I heard it's on the 24th of September. This one going to be hard!

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^^ these things would only occur if the country was under shariah.
In the UK it seems the 24th will be the 1st.

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How neat and appropriate of you to eat and drink while the rest of the street are fasting and looking at you! This is the most inconsiderate and stupid suggestion ever!

The majority of the country are Muslims, not respecting that by eating, drinking, smoking, etc before their hungry, thirsty and horny eyes is absolutely out of question. You can do that in private! I do not understand you people, can not you ****ing hold yourself for a couple of hours untill you get your privacy in your office, home or even bath rooms!

Think again before suggesting such nonesense!

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Yes, but the Shari'a only applies to Muslims, not to Christians...

Yes it does. The restrictions would apply only in muslim countries.
If any Christians wished to live there they would be most welcome as long as they observe the laws of the land. which happen to be Shariah in this example.

Will you find it difficult with all the shops closing and not being able to smoke. perhaps you should use this oppertunity to stop smoking

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Actually no. Non muslims are not bound by islamic laws and observances.

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Again, in Muslim countries where the religion of the state is Islam, Ramadan should be respected Dako and fasting people should be respected too by not eating, drinking and smoking publicly, how disrespectful it is to eat and drink infront of me while I can't do that. I can not believe someone even comes out with such suggestion! Are you okay?

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Lets not spoil this thread.

Thanks for the input Dako but you must be on some kind of wind up.

I dont expect to read any more of your posts as this is not a discussion on what christians should do blah blah .OK

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It's just a matter of consideration, I guess. Actually here in Dubai they've done it in such a way that restaurant areas in malls are covered with a large curtains, so that passers-by do not see the food.

Pooh, a3sabak yaa khoy!!

Don't lament the treachery of time;
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Don't suppose that their dancing raises them above their masters;
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Exactly! Christians have every right to practice their religion and Muslims MUST RESPECT that and vice versa.

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It's just a matter of consideration, I guess. Actually here in Dubai they've done it in such a way that restaurant areas in malls are covered with a large curtains, so that passers-by do not see the food.

Pooh, a3sabak yaa khoy!!
I am calm actually, just shocked, it is just a stupid and silly suggestion with no grounds at all! He can have his wife or mom making him sandwiches to eat!

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Ok guys, chill out a bit. Let us find the spirit of Ramadan here

As for Christians not being able to smoke, drink or eat in public, I find that a little extreme. Christian restaurants should be allowed to be open for business (and any Muslim ones that want to be). Those of us living in the West manage to fast ok with people eating food, drinking and smoking in front us. It's not that difficult although I die in the first few days when everyone else drinks coffee in the office in the morning and I am dying for one because my head hurts. We even have a lot of Muslim owned restaurants open during the day.

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In the west were the majority are not Muslims; you expect that everybody drinks and eats freely and in public. Try that in Jordan or any other country were Muslims are the majority and see how awkward that would be!

By the way, I work in an office were the majority are Christians and they drink, eat and smoke freely so I personally have no problem with people drinking, eating or smoking with my existance but that dose not mean that it is OK to do that around everybody else. They actually asked for our permission before they do that.

Anyway, there is no reason for such protest, how much people spent in the streets or in public at day time anyway?!

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Read the law before you make such post Dako. It is unlawful to eat, drink or smoke during day time in Ramadan and you will be punished for it one month in jail.

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dako you wish to eat in muslims faces , do it man.
Im sure you will recieve the fruits of your labour.

Personally i would ask you politely once, next time you would be eating is in hospital through a straw

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The thing is that there is NO REASON whatsoever to provoke such matter! People spent more time in their private places than out in public, so what the point of doing that in public infront of fasting people!?

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Guys, Dako is not saying he wants to eat in the face of a Muslim when the Muslims is fasting. He is saying that he doesn't understand why it is against the law for Christians not to be able to eat, drink, smoke or open a restaurant during the day during Ramadan. Something I do agree with. It isn't detrimental to a fasting Muslim for this to happen. I am sure the majority of Christians living in the Middle East respect Ramadan and wouldn't go up to a Muslim and take a bite of a sandwich in their face but to go and sit in a restaurant and eat or drink during the day isn't harming a Muslim in any way, shape or form. It's not as if a Muslim is going to press his face up to the glass and drool - if they are then they need to learn some will power and it isn't the Christians fault.

I wasn't aware that it was against Shariah law for a non-Muslim to eat or drink publically during Ramadan and would be interested in where it says that.

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