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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old December 20th, 2005, 04:22 Thread Starter
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Saudi Arabia doesn't allow players abroad?

can I know actual reasons?

some people said religion is the main reason. But there are many Muslim nations in the world, they have many players in Europe
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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old December 20th, 2005, 05:08
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It doesn't?

I thought Sami Al Jaber played abroad at one point in time.
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Sami Al Jaber Played abroad
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They are allowed to play abroad.

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can I know actual reasons?

some people said religion is the main reason. But there are many Muslim nations in the world, they have many players in Europe
Why do you think they won't be played abroad?

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post #6 of 39 (permalink) Old December 21st, 2005, 01:24 Thread Starter
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in Football Manager, foreign clubs cannot sign any Saudi players
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next time, make sure of your informations,
before posting Nonsense Thread.
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post #9 of 39 (permalink) Old December 21st, 2005, 03:15
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To tell you the truth, I heard something similar to that. I remember someone posting about how Saudis lack world class experience because they cant sign abroad but I didnt really pay much attention to it.
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post #10 of 39 (permalink) Old December 21st, 2005, 05:16 Thread Starter
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I heard that Al Jaber have close friendship with Saudi princess, so he could play abroad for short time

I can't find other Saudi players abroad beside him, Saudi Arabia qualified for World Cup 4 times and it is unbelievable that there are no Saudi players in European clubs
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Sami al-Jaber played for Wolves
Fahad al-Ghesheyan played for AZ Alkmaar

The reason you don't see Saudi players abroad, is because Saudi clubs want unreasonable amounts of money. The Saudi transfer market is a big bubble, because of that Saudi players are overvalued.

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post #12 of 39 (permalink) Old December 21st, 2005, 23:31
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Saeed Al Owairan and Fouad Anwar also had stints with a Chinese Club..

Other than the prices.. I think something that would in itself push Euro clubs away is how our NT prepares for a tournament.. be it the World Cup.. The Gulf Cup.. Arab Cup or Asian Cup.. the NT goes into a closed camp sometimes as early as 3 months before the tournament..

Clubs are frustrated they need to release their African players for maximum a month for the African Nations Cup.. just imagine 4 months.. Needless to say.. I'm against these long period camps..

There's no 'rule' prohibiting Saudi players from going abroad.. it's basically clubs being over protective and stupid.. but I think that'll change.. all we need is a few good performances.. at least individual ones in the next WC..

Mohammed Noor and some of Al Ittihad players put on quite a good show in Japan in the World Club Cup.. and we've heard rumors that some of the small Serie A clubs (like Reggina and Livorno) were asking about Noor.. now what makes me feel this might not be media crap is that Livorno is coached by Donadoni.. who played with Al Ittihad when Noor started (for a year).. so he knows how good he is..

CM and FM made a mess about why Saudis aren't going abroad.. its been fixed in FM2006..

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Not even a month for the ACN, its two weeks (per FIFA regs).... and Spurs won't even let Mido go before 5 days from Egypt '06 kick off... Same for Ghaly.

Besides, I doubt Gulf players will receive the same kind of money in Europe as they do at home, so why leave? Unless they are very serious about making it really big (i.e. ambitious, which can't be said of most people in the ME), they'll find no reason to move abroad.
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...a better question would be, why the SA league is not in Football Manager.
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Sabry: I think Mido and Ghaly agreed to the extra time with their club. If FIFA gives them 2 weeks than they have a right to leave before 2 weeks. I think its a fear that the players will lose their spots on the team, which is highly unlikely for both (especially Mido).
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Sabry: I think Mido and Ghaly agreed to the extra time with their club. If FIFA gives them 2 weeks than they have a right to leave before 2 weeks. I think its a fear that the players will lose their spots on the team, which is highly unlikely for both (especially Mido).

It is actually not that unlikely, because Tottenham are desperate after purcasing Dirk Kuijt from feyenoord. And if he comes during the winter transfer window, then Mido has all reason to be afraid. Tottenham are also been linked with guys like Djibril Cisse, so that means they are after a striker, and perhaps they are not entirely satisfied with our friend Mido. Even if he has scored 6?? goals this season..
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Sabry: I think Mido and Ghaly agreed to the extra time with their club. If FIFA gives them 2 weeks than they have a right to leave before 2 weeks. I think its a fear that the players will lose their spots on the team, which is highly unlikely for both (especially Mido).
Yes... the EFA allowed Mido to stay after negotiations with Tottenham.. I'm just saying that European clubs have issues with releasing the players two weeks before the tournaments, let alone 3 or 4 months.
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It is actually not that unlikely, because Tottenham are desperate after purcasing Dirk Kuijt from feyenoord. And if he comes during the winter transfer window, then Mido has all reason to be afraid. Tottenham are also been linked with guys like Djibril Cisse, so that means they are after a striker, and perhaps they are not entirely satisfied with our friend Mido. Even if he has scored 6?? goals this season..
Despite the rumours, I don't think Kuijt will sign for Feyenoord. I haven't heard anything about Cisse...

Its no surprise that Tottenham will be looking at other options:

(1) Perhaps as a backup. Come Summer 2006 they may not be able to sign Mido permanently if someone else steps in and raises the bar.

(2) Perhaps because either Keane or Defoe could be leaving. Jol isn't interested in playing them together and I doubt either will accept to sit on the bench for too long.

Mido scored 4 goals in his last 5 games, and 7 this season so far with a goal in every two matches scoring rate (and he doesn't get the kind of service available at Chelsea and ManU), its almost impossible that they're not satisfied with him.. Jol is almost biased to Mido, you could say.

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Besides, I doubt Gulf players will receive the same kind of money in Europe as they do at home, so why leave? Unless they are very serious about making it really big (i.e. ambitious, which can't be said of most people in the ME), they'll find no reason to move abroad.
Hi Sabry.. I'd seriously doubt that.. from the contract details that are sometimes published in newspapers and so on.. players usually get around 20,000 Riyals a month (If they are quite or really good).. now that's around 2.5k pounds a month.. an average player in England gets more than that per week!!

And Tim.. a VERY good point.. No disrespect, but I can't see how the Singapore League is included while the Saudi League isn't.. What pisses me off even more is that some of the players are really good (in terms of numbers).. consistent internationals.. and are rejected work permits!!

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Hi Sabry.. I'd seriously doubt that.. from the contract details that are sometimes published in newspapers and so on.. players usually get around 20,000 Riyals a month (If they are quite or really good).. now that's around 2.5k pounds a month.. an average player in England gets more than that per week!!

And Tim.. a VERY good point.. No disrespect, but I can't see how the Singapore League is included while the Saudi League isn't.. What pisses me off even more is that some of the players are really good (in terms of numbers).. consistent internationals.. and are rejected work permits!!
20,000 riyals a month? Come on man.. Thats almost unbelievable.. Maybe for below average players, but definitely not the better ones.

I mean Barakat gets around 70,000 EGP a month at Ahly (around 45,000 Riyals)... and thats not in the "generous" KSA league...

Didn't also a player transfer from a KSA club to another earlier this year for around $11m? .. I'd be plenty pissed if my transfer fee is 11m and I'm payed 20k Riyals a month.
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