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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old August 22nd, 2005, 21:23 Thread Starter
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Vancouver Stadium News

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Yet another update from SNN - the Southside News Network.

Intrepid reporter Whymark79 overheard Bobbo telling the radio reporters (presumably off the record) that Vancouver's stadium should be announced within a month or so.

By all accounts, Bobbo was more excited than a kid at Christmas when he talked about seeing those building plans (no details leaked though).

It will be 15,000 seats to start, expandable to 30,000 as time progresses.

BC Lions want NO INVOLVEMENT whatsoever... so that means it's an SSS fo' shizzle.

Unfortunately, it will NOT be ready for 2007 (no surprise there).

That means we're going to be looking at a temporarily expanded Swangard, or maybe BC Place?

Boo-urns.
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Unfortunately, it will NOT be ready for 2007 (no surprise there).

That means we're going to be looking at a temporarily expanded Swangard, or maybe BC Place?
Ouch!

Am I the only one thinking the bid to host the 2007 junior WC was a tad premature?

Maybe we should just tell FIFA to get someone else to host the tournament...
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The Whitecaps will be announcing the plans for their new stadium Thursday morning.

With MLS and Toronto's stadium coming together this looks like a big month for Canadian soccer.

Here's where the Vancouver stadium will be located. Should have pics of the new stadium on Thursday





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The location sucks.

It's hard to get to for the majority of people that would be interested in going to games. Mostly people with young families that live in the suburbs. Not to mention it's right in the heart of the East side. Bums, drunks, drug addicts and prositutes are all around that area.

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Not to mention it's right in the heart of the East side. Bums, drunks, drug addicts and prositutes are all around that area.
That's one of the reasons why it's going there.
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So the Bums and junkies will have a place to sleep?

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Business lauds new stadium plan
By Bob Mackin, 24 hours

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/2005/...57248-sun.html

Soccer fans, your dreams are coming true.

Vancouver Whitecaps will unveil plans Thursday for a new open-air stadium they want to build behind Waterfront Station.

"Sports and music enthusiasts have been dreaming of this day for many years," says an invitation to a morning news conference. The stadium is not mentioned, but it says "the historic event" will be a "significant announcement for our city, the Vancouver Whitecaps FC, and soccer in British Columbia."

A company connected to Whitecaps' owner Greg Kerfoot bought land in July near the downtown SeaBus, West Coast Express and SkyTrain terminal. The media-shy, high-tech multimillionaire wants to build a stadium with at least 15,000 seats in time for 2007's FIFA World Youth Championship. The stadium could also attract major international rugby and tennis tournaments, as well as rock concerts. Whitecaps have outgrown Burnaby's Swangard Stadium and B.C. Place Stadium is considered too big for many events.

It's not certain how much it would cost. A 20,000-seat soccer stadium proposed for Toronto's Canadian National Exhibition grounds is pegged at $60 million.

A Gastown restaurateur and publican said it's a tremendous idea.

"I would be a big supporter of it," said Irish Heather owner Sean Heather. "That's going to enhance Gastown, and I think that would dramatically improve things down there."

Heather is optimistic the project would kickstart building of a planned footbridge from Carrall Street's north end to CRAB Park at Portside and a greenway link to False Creek.

The ultimate goal, he hopes, is to solve the area's drug abuse problem.

"It's going to be an impetus to get things done that we need," Heather said.
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Oct 13, 2005
WHITECAPS ANNOUNCE PLANS FOR WATERFRONT STADIUM

http://www.whitecapsnewstadium.com/m...l.cfm?newsid=8

VANCOUVER, B.C. - Vancouver's stunning downtown waterfront will be the site of Vancouver's next great landmark - a new 15,000-seat outdoor sports stadium capable of hosting major international sporting and cultural events. The vision for Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium, which will showcase sustainable building practices along with the best in British Columbia design, construction and materials, was announced today by Whitecaps President John Rocha and Whitecaps Director of Soccer Operations Bob Lenarduzzi.

The stadium's Gastown waterfront location will be within walking distance of 30,000 parking stalls, 8,000 hotel rooms and 80,000 downtown Vancouver residents and workers. It will also be the most transit friendly stadium in North America with direct access from the SkyTrain, SeaBus, West Coast Express and the new RAV line and in close proximity to Habour Lynx, HeliJet, float planes and numerous bus routes. Built above the existing railway tracks, it will feature spectacular views of the North Shore Mountains and Burrard Inlet.

"Our dream of a new outdoor stadium in the heart of scenic Vancouver is finally becoming a reality," said Lenarduzzi. "This new stadium will provide Vancouver with the opportunity to enjoy world class soccer along with numerous other events."

First and foremost, Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium will be a soccer specific stadium offering fans a close-up experience of the beautiful game played on real grass. The stadium will host more than 30 Whitecaps Men's and Women's games, Canadian National Team games, and international soccer tournaments and exhibition matches featuring top level club teams from countries representing Vancouver's various ethnic communities.

In addition to soccer, the facility will host 60-80 event dates annually comprised of outdoor concerts, symphony performances, and a wide range of sporting events including international rugby, tennis, and beach volleyball. The stadium will also provide a home for many ethnic and community festivals, corporate events, and will complement the City's growing trade and convention business.

"Today is a great day for soccer fans and Vancouverites alike," said Rocha. "Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium will broaden Vancouver's appeal to world class soccer, concerts and events, and strengthen our partnerships with the British Columbia Soccer Association and the Canadian Soccer Association. By incorporating sustainable, environmentally friendly building methods and management systems it will promote the best in BC building and design."

For more information about Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium visit whitecapsnewstadium.com. People who register their support on the site will receive priority rights to all first year events, and the opportunity to attend a special open house prior to the general public grand opening.

Individuals registering before November 24 will have the opportunity to win one of four dream prizes: a trip for two to the 2006 FIFA World Cup in Germany, a trip for two to the International Rugby Board Rugby Sevens in Los Angeles, a trip for two to a Coldplay concert and a trip for two to a concert at the Tanglewood Music Festival.
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How's this for a view. Also the bird's eye view and concert setting





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Thanks for this, Joe!

The Vancouver stadium seems a well-conceived idea. The location is good for access by car, transit, and on foot. It helps to reclaim prime waterfront land for recreational use. All seats are rain-protected. The modest capacity of 15,000 is appropriate, and there's room for future expansion. The scenic mountain views are of course pleasant. And the presence of two established, successful soccer clubs (men and women Whitecaps) guarantees they can draw the crowds.
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Vancouver joins Montreal, Toronto in announcing new stadium plans

Vancouver joins Montreal, Toronto in announcing new stadium plans
By RON SUDLOW

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/200...261223-cp.html

VANCOUVER (CP) - The Vancouver Whitecaps unveiled plans Thursday for a 15,000-seat stadium on the waterfront, meaning there could be as many as three soccer-specific stadiums in Canada in the next few years.

The proposed venue is a few kilometres west of now-demolished Empire Stadium where Bob Lenarduzzi, Vancouver's director of soccer operations, played before 28,000 fans as a defender for the Whitecaps when they won the 1979 North American Soccer League title. Today's Whitecaps currently play in 5,700-seat Swangard Stadium in suburban Burnaby where they had six sellouts last season and drew 6,800 for a match against Sunderland of the English Premier League.

"I think it's a fantastic place to have a stadium," Whitecap striker Jason Jordan, the USL's scoring champion and MVP, said of the new venue.

"People will come just to be in the stadium but once they watch some of the games they'll be impressed with the soccer, they'll enjoy it."

The Montreal Impact, who like the Whitecaps play in the second-tier USL, have announced plans to occupy a new 15,000-seat stadium by 2007.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment is seeking a Major League Soccer franchise for Toronto but has been given an Oct. 31 deadline by the league for stadium approval.

A proposed 20,000-seat Toronto stadium is expected to go before city council later this month.

Like Toronto, the Vancouver stadium plan includes expansion to 30,000. The first phase is expected to cost $60 million to $65 million.

The Vancouver stadium will be built over the Canadian Pacific rail yard near the Canada Place waterfront convention centre with its distinctive decorative sails.

Fans will look through the north end of the horseshoe-shaped facility at Burrard Inlet and the North Shore mountains that rise sharply above the harbour.

"There will be an intimate atmosphere," Lenarduzzi told a news conference as tugboats whistled and sea planes buzzed overhead. "It will have a fan-friendly feel and look to the game."

The land has already been purchased by Greg Kerfoot, the Whitecaps' media-shy owner who made a fortune in computer software.

Whitecaps president John Rocha said while the club wants to occupy the stadium as soon as possible, city officials say a development permit is not likely until 2007 and the facility won't open until the fall of 2009.

"We have desires to see that earlier but that's our stance now, we'd like it as soon as possible," Rocha said.

Lenarduzzi said the natural grass field will give Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium an advantage over the artificial turf at the Montreal and Toronto venues in attracting national team games.

The field sod will be stored on pallets so it can be removed for other events like concerts and trade shows, much like Reliant Stadium, home of the NFL Houston Texans.

The facility has also been proposed to Rugby Canada as a national team home.

In addition to 30 dates for the men's and women's Whitecaps teams, the stadium is also being proposed as a summer home for the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, corporate events and trade shows along with such sports as beach volleyball and tennis.

Another possibility is a cultural venue for the 2010 Winter Olympics.

It will be served by two SkyTrain rapid transit lines, the SeaBus from North Vancouver and a commuter train. There are 30,000 parking stalls within walking distance and some parking planned underneath the facility.

The Whitecaps say they want their new stadium to foster the growth of Canadian soccer.

"Our vision is to build the sport and while we're building the sport we hope to build our fan base as well," Lenarduzzi said in an interview. "It's not something we need to get to overnight."

Canadian soccer is too fragmented among professional clubs, the Canadian Soccer Association, national teams and provincial organizations, said Lenarduzzi who played for the 1986 national team when it became the only Canadian side to qualify for the World Cup tournament.

"We've been fragmented for so long," said Lenarduzzi, also a former national team coach. "I've been through the whole process as a player, coach and an administrator.

"As long as we stay fragmented, we won't have much of a chance. I believe Greg Kerfoot's vision to bring all the stakeholders together will make a professional soccer franchise in this market viable and in markets like Montreal and Toronto."

Lenarduzzi said while the Whitecaps would like to eventually play in the MLS, it's too early for that move.

"Our objective is to be playing in the best league in North America when we're ready and we feel right now MLS in Canada is premature. We feel we've started a co-ordinated approach (for soccer growth) but we're not ready to go MLS."

Lenarduzzi said the Whitecaps will also follow the Toronto model and seek financing from city, provincial and federal governments.

"We haven't even talked to any levels of government at this point in terms of the funding side of it. All we're suggesting is if it's being done elsewhere, we'd like the opportunity for equitable contributions."

A quick look at the plans for the Vancouver Whitecaps new stadium:

Location: Built over rail yard on downtown Vancouver waterfront.

Capacity: 15,000 initially, engineered to expand to 30,000.

Cost: First phase of 15,000 seats estimated at between $60 million and $65 million.

Pitch: Natural grass stored on pallets over concrete base.

Nearby: 8,000 hotel rooms, 30,000 parking spaces within walking distance, 80,000 downtown residents.

Construction: Development permit issued 2007, completion 2009.

Access: SkyTrain rapid transit, commuter train, SeaBus from North Vancouver, city buses.

Events: Whitecaps men's and women's soccer plus national team games, rugby, tennis, beach volleyball, concerts, trade shows, conventions.
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Im in late to comment, but there is a lot of excitement about this news in town. BC Place is on prime real estate and it is very over-capacity considering the Lions are the major tenant. All people will be served to have this stadium built to 30,000 for the whitecaps and lions and then other events served at the new convention centre.

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Hard to say what will happen here as Bobby Ackles (BC Lions) has stated that the stadium won't be big enough for the Lions. I assume he means playoff games (or the initial 15,000 stadium size) The Lions averaged about 31,000 fans per game in 2005 with two probable big gate final games to come.

It most likely won't be expanded until the Whitecaps get into MLS and that could be awhile. The stadium will only be completed in 2009, so will it be completed at 15,000 or 30,000? I doubt Vancouver will be in the next MLS expansion unless they add more than two teams as I can see Van and Montreal going in at the same time. So that will be 2009 at the earliest.

With talk of BC Place's demise after the 2010 Olympics I assume the Lions are doing some hard thinking.

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Whitecaps unlikely to play the corporate name game

Whitecaps unlikely to play the corporate name game
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../?query=soccer

VANCOUVER -- When it comes time for the Vancouver Whitecaps to name their proposed downtown soccer stadium, team officials don't expect any controversy about possibly selling the naming rights for the team's new home.

Whitecaps president John Rocha said Greg Kerfoot, the low-profile owner of the franchise, is a "traditionalist" when it comes to advertising linkages.

"Greg has indicated he's not likely to do that, unlike a lot of European soccer teams that even sell the logos on the front of their jerseys," Mr. Rocha said in an interview yesterday. "He's more of a traditionalist in that respect."

The issue of selling naming rights in general is up for public discussion this week. The City of Vancouver is seeking public input into the possibility of selling the rights to name some city-owned facilities, with an open house to be held today at the Vancouver Public Library for residents to express their views.

The Whitecaps are in the midst of a six-month review involving city planners about the $65-million proposal to build a 15,000-seat multipurpose stadium over rail tracks.

The elevated stadium could later be expanded to seat 30,000.

Mr. Kerfoot has already purchased 10 hectares of downtown waterfront property for the project from Fairmont Developments. The Whitecaps want the stadium completed at least a year before the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver and Whistler.

One way to offset some of the startup costs would be to sell the naming rights to the stadium. For example, Safeco Field in Seattle is home to baseball's Seattle Mariners.

And the arena owned and operated by the parent company of hockey's Vancouver Canucks is named General Motors Place under a long-term contract with the automotive giant.

"As the team president I have asked [Mr. Kerfoot] to keep an open mind about this," Mr. Rocha said. "If the right partner came aboard . . . but right now he's not inclined to go that way in terms of the title of the stadium."

A review of the Whitecaps' stadium project by an independent consulting firm will be provided to city planners late next month, and the information will be presented to city council on June 13.

"We can work with all the technical issues and find ways to make it work with all the neighbourhoods," Mr. Rocha said, noting there is some opposition from groups in nearby Gastown and the Downtown Eastside.

The Whitecaps currently play their home games at the smallish Swangard Stadium in Burnaby.

The team attracted a sold-out crowd of 5,700 to its opening game in the United Soccer League last weekend. The Whitecaps have about 2,100 season-ticket subscribers after an aggressive marketing campaign.

An opinion survey commissioned by the Whitecaps indicated 71 per cent of those questioned were in favour or mildly in favour of the stadium project, with 15 per cent opposed.

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CSA to MLS: Make room for 2nd Canadian team in 2010
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As Toronto FC unveiled it's new Major League Soccer logo today, Canadian Soccer Association C.O.O. Kevin Pipe had a clear message for the league: make room for a 2nd Canadian team in 2010.

That team is most likely to be Vancouver.

With strong ownership, a new downtown stadium in the works, and a stated goal to play at the top level of North American professional soccer, the Vancouver Whitecaps appear to be next in line for MLS expansion. Mr. Pipe pressed that point today on MLS Commissioner Don Garber.

"Don, keep a second spot open in 2010. We know you're working towards having 16 clubs. I'm going to keep your feet close to the fire on that as we move forward. We have other Canadian cities who are really looking at Major League Soccer in a very serious way."

The only other contender is Montreal, who recently delayed plans to build a Soccer Specific Stadium.

The new National Soccer Stadium in Toronto is being built primarily using municipal, provincial and federal funds with a minority investment made by Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment. When Toronto City Council approved funding for the stadium in October, 2005, Mayor David Miller said "It's a great deal for Toronto. The city gets a $60 million community asset for only $9.8 million."

The Vancouver Whitecaps proposed stadium is privately-financed on land they purchased from Fairmont - a private company. They have said previously that they are financially committed to making the stadium happen. The new Vancouver stadium would be an invaluable asset to Canadian soccer, as Vancouver has the only climate in the country that allows for year-round soccer.

Major League Soccer has designed special rules which force Toronto FC to field a predominantly Canadian team. Mr. Pipe believes that the arrival of MLS in Toronto will have an immediate impact on the fortunes of Canadian Soccer.

"Today is a day of celebration. The arrival of MLS in Toronto is going to change the game overnight. Here in this city we will see the finest players in North America. The immediate impact is apparent. It's going to allow our national team players to finally play in Canada at a complete professional level. We expect to see a lot of our players returning home from Europe to play for Toronto FC. We also expect to see immediate improvement. With two seasons under our belt, we fully expect our national team to achieve it's goal of qualifying for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.""

Besides the new MLS team, Toronto's National Soccer Stadium will also play host to the second biggest event in Men's soccer: The Fifa Under-20 World Cup. While Vancouver's Swangard Stadium will be a venue for the preliminary matches of the tournament, it will be Toronto's shrine that hosts the final.

"July 22, 2007 - When the Fifa Under-20 World Cup Final is held in the new National Soccer Stadium, there will be over 100 million people worldwide watching soccer from Toronto. Who ever would have thought it?"

To help make the Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium a reality, visit us at www.friendsofsoccer.org .
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CSA to MLS: Make room for 2nd Canadian team in 2010

CSA to MLS: Make room for 2nd Canadian team in 2010
http://friendsofsoccer.blogspot.com/...-canadian.html

As Toronto FC unveiled it's new Major League Soccer logo today, Canadian Soccer Association C.O.O. Kevin Pipe had a clear message for the league: make room for a 2nd Canadian team in 2010.

That team is most likely to be Vancouver.

With strong ownership, a new downtown stadium in the works, and a stated goal to play at the top level of North American professional soccer, the Vancouver Whitecaps appear to be next in line for MLS expansion. Mr. Pipe pressed that point today on MLS Commissioner Don Garber.

"Don, keep a second spot open in 2010. We know you're working towards having 16 clubs. I'm going to keep your feet close to the fire on that as we move forward. We have other Canadian cities who are really looking at Major League Soccer in a very serious way."

The only other contender is Montreal, who recently delayed plans to build a Soccer Specific Stadium.

The new National Soccer Stadium in Toronto is being built primarily using municipal, provincial and federal funds with a minority investment made by Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment. When Toronto City Council approved funding for the stadium in October, 2005, Mayor David Miller said "It's a great deal for Toronto. The city gets a $60 million community asset for only $9.8 million."

The Vancouver Whitecaps proposed stadium is privately-financed on land they purchased from Fairmont - a private company. They have said previously that they are financially committed to making the stadium happen. The new Vancouver stadium would be an invaluable asset to Canadian soccer, as Vancouver has the only climate in the country that allows for year-round soccer.

Major League Soccer has designed special rules which force Toronto FC to field a predominantly Canadian team. Mr. Pipe believes that the arrival of MLS in Toronto will have an immediate impact on the fortunes of Canadian Soccer.

"Today is a day of celebration. The arrival of MLS in Toronto is going to change the game overnight. Here in this city we will see the finest players in North America. The immediate impact is apparent. It's going to allow our national team players to finally play in Canada at a complete professional level. We expect to see a lot of our players returning home from Europe to play for Toronto FC. We also expect to see immediate improvement. With two seasons under our belt, we fully expect our national team to achieve it's goal of qualifying for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.""

Besides the new MLS team, Toronto's National Soccer Stadium will also play host to the second biggest event in Men's soccer: The Fifa Under-20 World Cup. While Vancouver's Swangard Stadium will be a venue for the preliminary matches of the tournament, it will be Toronto's shrine that hosts the final.

"July 22, 2007 - When the Fifa Under-20 World Cup Final is held in the new National Soccer Stadium, there will be over 100 million people worldwide watching soccer from Toronto. Who ever would have thought it?"

To help make the Whitecaps Waterfront Stadium a reality, visit us at www.friendsofsoccer.org .
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