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Canada has a good striker

Oceano! He is big and can play. What do u all think about him?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old February 12th, 2005, 23:24
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Liar, Canada will never have a good striker.

Seriously, I thought Radzinski and De Rosario were good strikers, so I'm not that suprised. Is this guy big European quality, though?
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old February 13th, 2005, 00:42
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Oceano! He is big and can play. What do u all think about him?
His name is Olivier Occean, if you really want to get technical about it.

He scored the only goal in the Belfast match last Wednesday. It was his first international goal in 8 appearances for the senior men's team - at least the first one that counted. He actually scored a perfectly good goal against Honduras last September 4 that would have won the game for us had it not been for the corrupt referee disallowing it.
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Lets not talk about that Jeff still sensitive. Canada has some decent strikers and we have some good young striking talent as well. We have some good prospects coming up through the ranks.
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old February 13th, 2005, 11:14
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Canada has some decent strikers and we have some good young striking talent as well. We have some good prospects coming up through the ranks.
Quite right, looking at the Canadian's abroad list, then ther are several Canadian youth players at top-flight European clubs. So I have no doubts that we will see a much stronger Canadian NT in 2-3 years from now, but just like the US, then Canada (no offence) really suffer from not having a domestic league of average European quality, to make the youth players better prepared for international football...

It's a bit like Ice hockey in Denmark, at times we got better youth NT's than Sweden and Finland, but at senior level they turn average despite their skills, because we dont have a league that is good enough to make the talents reach an international level... and it's also only the Swedish and Finnish players going abroad to play NHL...

As for my words about the Canada A-NT probably being able to challenge the Danish U21's at the moment, then it's not ment as disrespect. Most of the Danish U21's are not only regulars in top-flight clubs, but actually the big Stars in The Danish Superliga... e.g. the 20-yo striker Morten "Duncan" who is 1st pick at AGF Aarhus and has scored goals in 6 of 8 games this season for the U21's, while the Canadian NT forward De Rosario was not considered quite good enough to be 2nd forward at AGF... 2 of the 3 best Superliga defenders and 2 of the 5 best Superliga players of the half season are all Danish U21's and wanted by big Spanish, Italian, English and German top-flight clubs (The other 3 were the (now Werder Bremen) forward Zidan and two Swedish NT players) ..

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Zidan has Danish citizenship? I thought it didint go through beacus he beat up his girlfriend? Regardless we have decent strikers, but what Canada needs is a good Goalkeeper. Since Craig Forest retired we have had really nothing. Agaisnt Northern Ireland our keeper (forget his name, dont follow impact) was pretty bad. Not much communication with the D, and was really lucky not to let in 5 goals.

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...Regardless we have decent strikers, but what Canada needs is a good Goalkeeper. Since Craig Forest retired we have had really nothing. Agaisnt Northern Ireland our keeper (forget his name, dont follow impact) was pretty bad. Not much communication with the D, and was really lucky not to let in 5 goals.
Our goalkeeper was Greg Sutton. He was named MVP of the A-League last season, when he was also voted top goalkeeper for the second year in a row. He tied Pat Onstad's A-League record of 16 shutouts during the regular season and added four more in the post-season. He's no slouch.

We also have Lars Hirschfeld, who is pretty good.

Our traditional problem has been scoring goals, not goalkeeping. This problem has continued in spite of the advent of good strikers, because the simple fact is that strikers need support in order to score goals. This comes from the midfielders and wingers, and in our case, that hasn't been happening much. We have to increase our number of scoring opportunities, and let the strikers do their job.
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I saw Oliver Occean with his Norwegian club Odd Grenlund when they played against Feyenoord earlier this season. Despite them losing 5-1 I think over the 2 legs, Oliver was one of their better players and imo it won't be that long before a bigger Norwegian club'll pick him up or perhaps a lower to midranked Dutch or Belgian side will look into him. Perhaps maybe even a first division English side like Millwall or Cardiff, who knows. Big strong player who'll be handy at the level imo.


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Zidan has Danish citizenship? I thought it didint go through beacus he beat up his girlfriend?.
No, Zidan is not a Danish citizen, but he was selected for the team of the year with a mix of Danish internationals and Danish league stars, due to him being a member of the the Danish Players Association...

The Danish team of the year 2004 looks like this:

Goalkeeper:
Thomas Sørensen (Aston Villa)

Defenders:
Niclas Jensen (B. Dortmund), Per Krøldrup (Udinese), Leon Andreasen, Den U21 (AGF Aarhus), Daniel Agger, Den U21 (Brøndby)

Midfielders:
Martin Retov, Den U21 (Brøndby), Thomas Kahlenberg, Den U21 (Brøndby), Thomas Gravesen (Real Madrid)

Forwards:
Mohamed Zidan, Egypt (FC Midtjylland/ now Werder Bremen), Jon Dahl Tomasson (Milan), Steffen Højer (OB Odense)

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it won't be that long before a bigger Norwegian club'll pick him up or perhaps a lower to midranked Dutch or Belgian side will look into him. Perhaps maybe .
KRC Genk showed interests in him during the winter-break. But eventually he didn' come. I thought it was because Odd Grenlund asked to much money for him.

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