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CONCACAF Gold Cup 2005

2005 will see the return of the CONCACAF Gold Cup competition. The last one was in 2003, when Mexico won. Three tournaments ago, back in 2000, Canada won the Cup.

This year's tourney takes place in the USA from July 6 to 24. There will be 12 national teams drawn into three groups of 4 for the group round, and the top 8 will advance to the quarterfinal knock-out round.

The twelve teams will be:

Canada
Mexico
USA
South Africa (guest)
Another guest yet to be named
Cuba
Jamaica
Costa Rica
Guatemala
Honduras
Panama
Trinidad & Tobago

For your information, here are the current (February) FIFA rankings of the 10 CONCACAF finalists:
Mexico tied for 6th
USA 11
Costa Rica 27
Jamaica 46 (tie)
Honduras 58 (tie)
Trinidad & Tobago 62
Guatemala 70
Cuba 71 (tie)
Canada 85
Panama 101

(Question: how does Canada get into the final 12 without having to qualify?)

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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old December 29th, 2004, 03:38
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Any rumors on who the guest will be? Colombia has been invited before
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I hope they invite Argentina as the guest this time around.
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This would be a great tournament for ABC or NBC to buy the rights for all the games. The U.S. NT has as high of expectations as ever for the upcoming WC and exposure of them would guarentee a wider Canadian audience as well.

Is it me or does it seem like Canada is a dog stuck in a cage in terms of jumping from the 'youth' program to the Senior NT? It's like running around in a circle, trying every option.

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This would be a great tournament for ABC or NBC to buy the rights for all the games. The U.S. NT has as high of expectations as ever for the upcoming WC and exposure of them would guarentee a wider Canadian audience as well.
I agree but ABC once had rights to this tournament like in the late 90's and then i dont know what happen i think Univision has the rights now.
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How good do you think our chances our boys?
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I think England or a an african will join?
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I've updated the first post to amend the list of the qualifying countries and the current FIFA rankings.
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Colombia is the other invited country.

The Groups:

Group A
Honduras
Panama
Trinidad & Tobago
Colombia

Group B
Costa Rica
Canada
USA
Cuba

Group C
South Africa
Guatemala
Jamaica
Mexico

Top two in each group, plus two best third-place teams, will advance to QF.

Canada's group matches:
Thursday, July 7 in Seattle: Canada v. Costa Rica
Saturday, July 9 in Seattle: USA v. Canada
Tuesday, July 12 in Boston: Canada v. Cuba

Download full schedule (.pdf)

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We have a good shot at making it out of the group stage if we can beat/tie costa rica, and tie the USA.

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2005 will see the return of the CONCACAF Gold Cup competition. The last one was in 2003, when Mexico won. Three tournaments ago, back in 2000, Canada won the Cup.

This year's tourney takes place in the USA from July 6 to 24. There will be 12 national teams drawn into three groups of 4 for the group round, and the top 8 will advance to the quarterfinal knock-out round.

The twelve teams will be:

Canada
Mexico
USA
South Africa (guest)
Another guest yet to be named
Cuba
Jamaica
Costa Rica
Guatemala
Honduras
Panama
Trinidad & Tobago

For your information, here are the current (February) FIFA rankings of the 10 CONCACAF finalists:
Mexico tied for 6th
USA 11
Costa Rica 27
Jamaica 46 (tie)
Honduras 58 (tie)
Trinidad & Tobago 62
Guatemala 70
Cuba 71 (tie)
Canada 85
Panama 101

(Question: how does Canada get into the final 12 without having to qualify?)
bingo......Canada should have to qualify for this event. We we're outplayed in the concacaf wcq round yet still get an automatic berth in the Gold Cup ( no doubt based on our win in 2000). They should have a proper tournament every four years starting after the world cup finals, with all teams having to qualify plues still invite the two guest teams. This would give Canada more games during the season which they need pretty badly afterthe Nth Ireland and Portugal matches.
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Tam Nsaliwa returns to Canadian soccer fold after two-year absence
by Neil Davidson, Canadian Press
Sunday, May 29, 2005

Midfielder Tam Nsaliwa returns to the Canadian soccer fold next month after a two-year absence, attending a Florida camp in advance of the July Gold Cup.

Coach Frank Yallop has invited 14 players to the June 4-9 camp in Sunrise, Fla. Opting to allow most of his European-based players to rest after long seasons, Yallop has called in 10 players from the United Soccer League, one from Major League Soccer and three from Europe.

Nsaliwa, a 23-year-old defender-midfielder from Edmonton, has 10 caps with the senior side but has not played for Canada since June 2003. He has been invited since then but decided to stay with his German club Saarbrucken instead, according to Canadian team officials.

Midfielder Johnny Sulentic, who is a teammate of Nsaliwa at Saarbrucken, is also headed to the Florida camp.

The other European-based player invited is midfielder Rhian Dodds, who plays for Kilmarnock in Scotland. Dodds has been part of Canadian youth sides but this marks his first invitation to the senior team.

The Montreal Impact are sending six players to the camp: goalkeeper Andrew Olivieri, defenders Adam Braz and Gabriel Gervais, midfielders Patrick Leduc and Mesut Mert and forward Ali Gerba.

The Vancouver Whitecaps provide three players - goalkeeper Mike Franks, defender Geordie Lyall and forward Jason Jordan - and the Toronto Lynx one: forward Sean Fraser.

Midfielder Felix Brillant has been summoned from the New England Revolution of MLS.

Yallop says some may find themselves on the Gold Cup roster. "Absolutely," the coach said.

Yallop plans his main camp for the Gold Cup to start June 27 in Vancouver, with an exhibition game July 2 against Honduras before the team leaves the next day for the tournament in Seattle.

The coach has already said he does not plan to call in veteran striker Tomasz Radzinski, opting to let him rest after a long season in England with Fulham.

Yallop declined comment when asked whether other veterans would be similarly excused, saying he was still assembling the squad. But he hinted that Paul Stalteri and Julian de Guzman will not be called in, given their moves to England's Spurs and Spain's Deportivo La Coruna, respectively.

Yallop says he will take 18 players to the Gold Cup.
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Canada needs organization changes from the CSA head offices to the
job of manager of the national team before Canada will make in roads
once again in world football. We have has little prep time leading up
to the Gold Cup only one friendly against Honduras is the best the
team can look forward too. This IMHO is not good enough at this level
of football. Costa Rica will prove too much an opponent like they did
in WCQ. Depending on how the Yanks approach this tournament in
the middle of wcq, we will no doubt see thier reserve side which will
still be more then we can handle. Cuba we should get at least a point,
but remember Cuba beat us 2-0 last time, and we had a much better
squad back then as well. After this tournament we have nothing major
to do till the gold cup in 2007 followed by the start of wcq again in
2008, a long rough road ahead for Canadian soccer.
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Welcome to the forum, Impactsoccer!

You're right, of course, about the woeful state of our national tream program and the CSA. We can expect three games and then we're out of this tournament, even if it takes a little help from the corrupt and incompetent CONCACAF referees...
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i just cant believe that canada has slid so far, so fast. right after their gold cup win in 2000( pure luck btw)... they stopped scoring. they havent been able to score since.maybe we should get that jessica lang girl to suit up for canada.
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Schedule for Sportsnet TV coverage of the Gold Cup:

July 7 - Canada v. Costa Rica
LIVE: West & Pacific 5:30 p.m. PDT
REBROADCAST: East, Ontario & Pacific 11:00 pm EDT; West midnight CDT

July 9 - Canada v. USA
LIVE: All regions, 1:30 p.m. PDT, 4:30 p.m. EDT
REBROADCAST: East 8:00 p.m. EDT; West 2:00 p.m. CDT July 11

July 12 - Canada v. Cuba
LIVE: West & Pacific 6:00 p.m. PDT
REDBROADCAST: Pacific 11:00 p.m. PDT; East, Ontario & West 1:00 a.m. EDT (July 13)

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Canadian roster for friendly v. Honduras July 2 and for CONCACAF Gold Cup

Shirt Number - Name - Pos - Club - DOB
1 Greg Sutton GK Montreal Impact 4/19/77
33 Mike Franks GK Vancouver Whitecaps 4/27/77
2 Adam Braz D Montreal Impact 6/7/81
3 Chris Pozniak D Haugesund, Norwegian Second Division 1/10/81
4 Kevin McKenna D Energie Cottbus, German Bundesliga 2 1/21/80
5 Gabriel Gervais D Montreal Impact 9/18/76
6 Patrice Bernier M Troms°, Norwegian Premier 9/23/79
7 Iain Hume M/F Tranmere Rovers, League One 10/20/83
8 Adrian Serioux M Millwall, English League Championship 5/12/79
9 Ali Gerba F Montreal Impact 7/27/82
10 Olivier Occean F Odd Grenland, Norwegian Premier 10/23/81
11 Jim Brennan M Norwich City, League Championship 5/8/77
12 Sandro Grande M Montreal Impact 9/9/77
13 Atiba Hutchinson D/M Helsingborg, Swedish Premier 2/8/83
14 Dwayne de Rosario M/F San Jose Earthquakes, MLS 5/15/78
15 Josh Simpson D/M Millwall, League Championship 5/15/83
16 Patrick Leduc M Montreal Impact 12/26/77
17 Jaime Peters M Ipswich Town, League Championship 5/4/87
18 Rhian Dodds M Kilmarnock, Scottish Premier 10/3/79

Players also on the 23-man roster and eligible for the Gold Cup:
19 Nevio Pizzolitto D Montreal Impact 8/26/76
20 Will Johnson F Chicago Fire, MLS 1/21/87
21 Felix Brillant M/F New England Revolution, MLS 9/9/80
22 Josh Wagenaar GK Hartwick College, NCAA 2/26/85

Yallop looks to youth
By Neil Davidson(CP)

Canadian coach Frank Yallop continues to look to the future as he prepares for next month's Gold Cup.

Yallop also focused on the Montreal Impact in choosing his roster for the CONCACAF soccer championship, which covers North and Central America and the Caribbean. Six members of his Gold Cup lineup are from the defending United Soccer League champion, with another a member of a four-man taxi squad waiting in the wings in case of injury.

Impact players on the travelling 19-man roster are goalkeeper Greg Sutton, defenders Adam Braz and Gabriel Gervais, midfielders Patrick Leduc and Sandro Grande and forward Ali Gerba.

Impact defender Nevio Pizzolitto is one of four reserves eligible if needed for the U.S. tournament.

"They have been absolutely first-class," Yallop said of the Impact. "I'm taking half their team, but they said they'd never stand in anybody's way playing for the national team and I really, really appreciate Nick (coach Nick DeSantis) and (president) Joey Saputo sticking to that and giving us a chance to compete."

Yallop also paid tribute to the Impact players, saying they are "100 per cent committed, well-behaved, good-mannered, love the game, trained well.

"All the things you want in a professional player. Montreal produces that."

Yallop's 19-man roster has just 176 caps, with 94 of those belonging to defender Kevin McKenna (27), midfielder Jim Brennan (38) and forward Dwayne DeRosario (29). Another 23 come from defender-midfielder Atiba Hutchinson (12) and forward Iain Hume (11), who were playing for the under-20 team as recently as 2003.

Canada, currently ranked 85th in the world, has been placed with No. 24 Costa Rica, No. 70 Cuba and No.10 U.S. in Group B at the 12-team competition. The Canadians open in Seattle, with games July 7 against Costa Rica and July 9 against the U.S. before heading to the Boston area to take on Cuba on July 12.

"Any time you play against good calibre teams, it's tough for Canada," Yallop said Wednesday from Vancouver, when asked about his young squad.

"We're trying to get to the point when our young guys, come World Cup qualifying time, have got 20 caps under their belt."

Former coach Holger Osieck managed to do just that in large part, but failed to take Canada to the next level.

But Yallop likes his youth and, despite the absence of some senior players, sees the glass half-full.

"This is a good tournament to blood some youngsters and give them a chance," he said. "Yes, I want to win the tournament and no, I'm not going to worry about it if we don't. I just want to perform well, get some good games in, try and get as far as we can in the competition.

"It's going to be tough but I would say Costa Rica and Cuba are saying the same thing: 'it's going to be tough group."'

Still Yallop acknowledges "a few injuries and you're right, we could have a few inexperienced players at the same time on the field and that's maybe my one worry."

Most of Yallop's squad will gather in Vancouver next Monday. An exhibition game against Honduras is planned for July 2 before the team heads to Seattle the next day.

Some high-profile players are missing from Yallop's roster.

Fullback Paul Stalteri, who recently transferred to England's Tottenham, has an ankle injury. Midfielders Julian de Guzman (Deportivo La Coruna, Spain), Daniel Imhof (Bochum, Germany) and Mike Klukowski (Club Bruges, Belgium) are healthy but elected to stay with their clubs.

De Guzman and Imhof are settling in with new teams while Klukowski has been pencilled in to start at left fullback with his club and is looking to solidify his position. When all three indicated the Gold Cup was not on their radar, Yallop looked elsewhere.

"I don't want to start begging players," the coach said. "We've got to get past that. If we select them and they say no, that's fair enough. And all three of those guys were going to be selected."

Yallop had said earlier that star striker Tomasz Radzinski would be allowed to rest this summer.

Midfielder Tam Nsaliwa (Saarbrucken, Germany) was picked for the roster but turned down the invitation. It's a somewhat puzzling decision given he attended a Canadian camp in Florida earlier this month, after a lengthy absence from the national team program and several other rejections of offers to play for his country.

It's unlikely he will be asked again.

The goalkeepers are Sutton and Mike Franks of the Vancouver Whitecaps. Yallop is keeping his fingers crossed that Sutton recovers from a mild concussion suffered last week.

Goalie Lars Hirschfeld, who shot to prominence at the 2002 Gold Cup, was not summoned because he is currently without a club.

"He just needs to get playing games," Yallop said. "That's the one position that you can't just have a couple of weeks off and then just jump in and start playing."

Uncapped midfielder Rhian Dodds (Kilmarnock, Scotland) gets a call-up after impressing at the Florida camp.

Midfielder Jaime Peters, who has seven caps with the senior team, returns to Yallop's squad from the under-20 team that went 0-2-1 at the World Youth Championship. Teammates Will Johnson, a striker, and Josh Wagenaar, a goalkeeper, join Pizzolitto and New England Revolution midfielder-forward Felix Brillant as the four reserves.

Wagenaar's selection is a vote of confidence in the young 'keeper, who rebounded well after an unfortunate goal against Syria at the World Youth Championship.

Notes: Defender Marco Reda was a possible selection but he's getting married on July 2. Former Olympic team midfielder Rocco Placentino was also considered and will probably get a call-up in the future, Yallop said.

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Same old story.

We're always "building for the future" - a future that never comes.

It seems that every time a major tournament comes up (Gold Cup, Olympic, WC Qualifying) we're not ready to field an experienced, capable team.

Sure, we have to develop young players - that's what the U-20 team is for. And judging by their performance in the current Junior World Cup, they aren't going to be improving the fortunes of our senior national team any time soon.

So once again, look for an early exit from the tournament for Canada's team.
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this should be a tournament where canada finaaly does well, at least they can't look worse then they did in wcq. we need points of america
and costa rica if we have any chance to do well drop all 6 points here
and we're toast, with cuba being the booby prize left to shoot for.
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How can we expect to do any better than we did in the WCQ?

We're fielding a weaker team, if anything, and we're facing tougher opposition.

Of the 10 finalists, Canada is (quite justly) ranked second last.
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