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post #41 of 1477 (permalink) Old December 11th, 2002, 10:58
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Aa, I see, you assume that I am a nice person? Well, I am not.

Over the years I'v read many many great posts, if not even thousands of them, all worth to read and maintain. Unfortunately we can't held them here forever. Also, basically people are agreeing that too many stickies are too much but...if mods start to unstick them, people start to yell-not my thread. So much vanity, delete or unstick others but leave my thread alone.

BTW tell me, why the sudden interest in Milan?? Never saw you before at Milan Forum.

Well, I can't decide what to tell you, either that I am a glory-hunter, following Milan from the last month or that there's too many so boring people here. Take your pick.
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post #42 of 1477 (permalink) Old December 11th, 2002, 11:13
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Aa, I see, you assume that I am a nice person? Well, I am not.

Whatever.

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Well, I can't decide what to tell you, either that I am a glory-hunter, following Milan from the last month or that there's too many so boring people here. Take your pick.
Again

Otherwise your post was preety logical.

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Zankoku na Yuumei no these

I'm a convinced of this sticky. Not because I cooperate with this thread, I like it anyway: why, many of the ppl and the names on it are scarcely known among newer fans of the Dutch Trio era. As I think, it's slow bcz it's just the two of us, Payman and Yuumei But please be patient

Anyway holidays down here are approaching. Hopefully I can update more stories to post them, since I'm involved with my thesis.

*Should old acquaintance be forgot... never old thread left unupdated...*


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post #45 of 1477 (permalink) Old December 11th, 2002, 15:43 Thread Starter
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Kat, for your info, this thread was originally posted somewhere in the spring, then, because I was busy, I didn't post in it and no one did neither. Then, back in October, I posted a few more stories in it and then, requested only at that time, for it to be a sticky. Let me repeat that: This thread has not been a sticky since April as you suggest.

BTW, what's with this nasty, superior attitude Kat??? Please keep your attitude for yourself. :rollani: It is easy to label others as "boring"; since you're so much "smarter" than the rest, why don't you light up and spice up this thread/forum with some enlightening, informative or creative posts? Maybe, perhaps remotely, YOU are the one who is boring and getting on the nerves of people with your "bitc_hy" attitude. Think about it...

Don't get me wrong: I have nothing against you, but it is really annoying to see someone who rarely, if ever posts in here and come out of the blue, making such insulting comments towards those who do actually contribute to this forum.

Bono, you're the man again!!!

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Of course I'm sometimes very boring, I have nothing new or exciting to say therefor I don't say anything, therefor I don't post much here. Most of my energy went to the Chelsea forum. But when I do have something to say, I say it, as it was my suggestion about stickies and take a note please-most of the people agreed it was a good idea.
Jesus Christ, what's the business with my attitude? It is as it is and you really don't have to like it. I am a football fan, I am a Milan fan and I want Milan to win everything. That's the main thing, isn't it?
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Payman, Kat and the rest. Please, leave this discussion for the appropriate thread here - OT: Stickies - or in the appropritae forum - e.g. Padded Cell - if any!
Please, stick to the topic of THIS thread and dont ruin it.

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Kat, it seems you took my post the wrong way or maybe I was a little too harsh. In that case, sorry. I might have ovverreacted to your post and i'm sorry. I am not discussing/doubting your dedication to this forum, but was just not pleased to see you come out of the blue and criticize others. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now back to the topic. Enjoy!Another of those memorable Milan gams, from the Forza Milan of November. Translated by me. Enjoy!

Fair enough Bono. Memories of Belgrade, By Carlo Pellegatti.

The Gods help their chosen sons, their prefered heroes. It has always been the case, from the times of Omer and what I am about to share with you here, is truly an Omeric, epic, historic, drammatic and emotional adventure. But first, we have to go back in Time 14 years, on the 8th of November 1988, when the Rossoneri left Malpensa, the international airport of Milano, direction Belgrade. Milan has to play the 2nd leg of the 1/8th finals of the 1988-89 Champions Cup against this Red Star team that managed to tie it 1-1 at San Siro in the first leg. It is a difficult task, as the Yougoslavs have a very competitive and strong team and also due to the fact that a lot of Milan players were not at top physical conditions. Indeed, the precarious conditions had already affected the team in the first leg where Sacchi had to deal with the following: Maldini out due to his military service, Baresi with an ankle problem, Donadoni and Ancelotti with knee problems. In the first leg, Virdis tied the game after the early goal by Stojkovic for Belgrade, but after that, despite some good scoring chances, Milan didn't manage to beat the Red Star keeper Stojanovic. So everyone leaves for Belgrade on that tuesday of November, with a lot of anxiety and tension. Milan risks to go out of the Champions Cup prematurely, a competition from which Milan had been away for too long. Compared from the first leg, Capitan Stubing Sacchi ( for the younger fans, this is an allusion to Capitan Stubing, who's the capitan of the ship from the tv serial "Love Boat") manages to recuperate Chico Evani, but has to renounce at Ruud Gullit, who goes to Yougoslavia as a simple tourist, due to a muscular problem.

The Maracana, the stadium of Belgrade, receives me with the grey colour that envelops everything here. The city is grey, the people's face reflects a kind of sadness, depsite the electrifying atmosphere of a Champions Cup match. I get off the bus reserved for the press, anxious, tense and concentrated like the players. Around 1500 people came from Milano, some by bus, others by special planes. Here I am, in my corner, lost in that huge Maracana, among all these Red Star fans with their flags and their banners with my hope to see a Milan like the one I saw at Napoli on May 1st 1988 (the day when Milan beat Napoli 3-2 in Napoli and surpassed them in the Serie A standings to go onto to win the 1st Scudetto of the Berlusconi era), in fact a strong Milan in a desperate situation. Speaking of desperation, I was slowly filled by desperation when I saw a very solid and concreete Red Star team controlling the match without any big efforts. For the Yougoslavs, a 0-0 draw would have sufficed to get through to the next round, the 1/4 finals and everything seems so easy for the players in Red and White, when Virdis was sent off by the referee Pauly. It is cold, very cold and then, a could, almost like a nebula, covers the whole stands. It is not something temporary, it is for good and lasting, it covers everything, the stands, the fans, the field and the players. Everything. The heavy silence of the crowd and the thick blinding cloud is only transperced and torn by a big roaring in the stands, from our left side, and I imagine it is due to a goal scored for Red Star, by Savicevic, the one that will become, the unforgettable "Carezze del Montenegro", scoring the goal that gives the lead for the Stella Rossa.

It seems to be over for us. The Ragazzi play with 10 men, 1 goal down and I don't have any hopes left because I am too depressed, and that the cloud is becoming bigger and bigger, just like a nebula. At one time, at half time, I look at my left and I am left speechless and moved. I will never forget this moment, worthy of a passage of the Stephen King books, this sensation and feeling only felt by the characters of the film "Fog". From above, the Gods, friends of Milan, are throwing down on the stadium, big black clouds with heavy snow, as if Eolo, the God of the Winds, was sweeping all the air from Hell towards the Maracana stadium of Belgrade. In a very short period of time, we couldn't see anything, absolutely nothing. Players and the ref enter onto the pitch, but the game was suspended. And to be replayed from start the next day, November 9th, at 13.00.

The joy and happiness for the danger just escaped is mixed with a general confusion for the 200 tifosi that didn't bring with them a lot of money, since it was supposed to be a one day stop and back onto the plane to home right after the game. The cold of the Belgrade evening is even more harmful, and there were no more hotels or motels available and it was only due to the miraculous intervention of Paolo Taveggia, the one who became the "Moses" of the twentieth Century for having organized, a few months later the exodus of 80, 000 tifosi from Italy to Barcelona, but also thanks to the collaboration of the head of the Italian press, Guido Susini, the tifosi were able to find an hotel to spend the night before the game of the next day. The cost of the entire operation rose to about 40 million Lire (around US $40,000) that Milan generously and graciously paid.

In the meantime, in another hotel, the Milan medical staff was working hard in order to heal the foot of Ruud Gullit. Without Virdis, sent off, and "Terminator" Ancelotti, suspended for a yellow card, it was vital to recuperate at all costs Il Tulipano Nero (The Black Tulip, Gullit). The two Milan doctors, Monti and Tavana were massaging relentlessly the suffering muscles in order to have Ruud at the very least on the bench. A pale sun warms the few Milan tifosi present at the Maracana, but a great performance from the Boys literally fills them up of joy. It is another Milan compared to 24 hours ago. Franco Baresi plays the best game of his legendary career. He plays almost in front of the defence, guiding all the Rossoneri attacks. After 5 minutes of play, after a shot from Lupetto Mannari, the ball ends up in the net. "Goal, it's a goal!" I scream at the microphone, when I see the ball, going at least by a metre beyond the white line. A Yougoslav player, Sabanadzovic, clears the ball away and the referee, Pauly, says:"No goal, keep on playing!". Incredible! At the 34th minute, a free-kick in the left from Donadoni is sent into the net by "Guido Cavalcanti" Van Basten. The Milan lead will however, not last long, only 4 minutes: Stojkovic ties the game beating Giovanni Galli. Milan dominates. Mannari seems an unstoppable little devil today; the 4 Intouchables of Elliot Ness Baresi are simply fantastic.

At the 43rd minute, the dramma. Vasilijevic and Donadoni go for an aerial challenge and the Red Star player elbows hard the Milan player who loses conscious while still in the air. He falls heavily on the ground. One of the Milan doctors, Dr. Monti intervenes and performs a mouth-to-mouth on him to prevent the player from suffocating. Donadoni is lying unconscious on the grounds and his legs are moving while in the air, almost as if they were kicking something, in a very unnatural way, this is another imagine I will never forget. Fortunately, "Luci a San Siro" (Lights at San Siro, Donadoni's nick, given to him after Berlusconi qualified as being the only Italian able to light up the San Siro) resumes breathing. Gullit replaces him, playing a great match doing lots of sacrifices for the team. After the game, Gullit would be away from the field for about 40 days because his muscles problems only worsened after the game. The game ends tied at 1-1. We go to the dreadful lottery sessions of the penalty kicks. More emotions to come. Stoijkovic scores, "Mahatma" Baresi ties it. Prosinecki scores and Van Basten ties it again. Galli accomplishes the miracle on Savicevic and Evani, with his magical left foot gives the lead to the Rossoneri. Now it's Giovanni Galli's turn again. In front of him, stands Mrkela. Galli jumps and enters into the legend stopping the Red Star player's shot. Now, it's the turn of "Uragano Frankie" (Hurricane Frankie) Rijkaard). His shot is tense, in the corner and unstoppable. Milan wins and goes to the next round, the 1/4 finals and I join the ragazzi in the dressing rooms hugging them all.

The journalists also have had to deal with the lack of hotels and have to manage somehow to spend the night with us. I shared my room with Xavier Iacobelli, at that time, a young chronicher at "La Notte", now directore of "Corriere dello Sport". We are all happy, it's been an incredible adventure. But it is not finished. How is Donadoni doing? Doctor Tavana insists that further controls be performed on him. We found out that he has his jaw fractured, and while on the stretcher, inconscious, hit by stomach cramps and nausea typical of cerebral incidents, he was vomiting constantly, , making Dr. Tavana very anxious. In fact, what Roberto has is a small "edema" on his head that is quickly healed with therapy. When Donadoni finds out that Milan qualified for the next round, he cries. Sacchi pays him a visit in his hospital room, giving him the best wishes of the whole team. The player leaves Belgrade six hours later after the rest of the Milan delegation, in a plane, courtesy of Europe Assistance.

What would remain of the grave injury of Donadoni? Fortunately, for him, nothing, but to football, a lot. Indeed, because as a result of this almost near fatal incident, the Milan medical staff adopts a new resolution: from that day, on every game of Milan, at the San Siro, there's always an anesthetist present. And today, due to a law passed in 1990, after this dramatic experience, an anesthetist specialist is present on all the fields of Serie A.

First game on Wednesday 9 November 1988. Game suspended after 57 minutes due to fog and heavy snow with the score of 1-0 for Belgrade.

2nd game: Red Star - Milan 1-1 after 90 minutes, and after 120 minutes. 2-4 after pks for Milan.
Thursday 10 November 1988.
Red Star: Stojanovic, Najdoski, Vasilijevic, Sabanadzovic, Radovanovic, Juric, Ivanovic, Savicevic, Bursac (51' Mrkela), Stoikovic, Djurovic (73' Prosinecki). Coach: Stankovic.
Milan: G. Galli, Tassotti, P. Maldini, Rijkaard, Costacurta, Baresi, Donadoni (45' Gullit), A. Colombo, Van Basten, Evani, Mannari (115' Cappellini). Coach: Sacchi.
Ref: Pauly.
Penalty kicks:
Stoikovic: goal. Baresi: goal.
Prosinecki: goal. Van Basten: goal.
Savicevic: saved. Evani: goal.
Mrkela: saved. Rijkaard: goal.

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Baresi recalls a particularity of that game. Young Massimiliano Cappellini was debuting and as the others were too tired he was in charge of the last penalty. Frankie saw him white of fear and asked Sacchi to kick the penalty instead of the youth. The anecdote? Franklin had NEVER EVER kicked a penalty!

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Guys stop fighting.I think that this stories are great and we should all know them,because they are part of our rich history.This thread is the best in the forum so i think that this should be sticky.

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kat, if you find this forum is a bit slow, I understand, I'd say that very same thing. On that matter, I would love to receive cooperation from you! we're a twosome that post on this thread, if another Milanisti want to keep it alive, welcome!

One day, the great Nereo Rocco comes to the Assasino, the restaurant where Milanisti reunited, with a new suit:
Hey, Cesare, what do you think?
Pretty one, signor Rocco, says Maldini
The following day, he brings in another, prettier than the first
what about this one?
Nice one, signor Rocco, says Cesarone, very puzzled: Rocco was very careful about money, he didn't spend a lot!
The following day... before Rocco says a word, Cesarone asks, but signor Rocco, you robbed a bank?
No, they gave me four, just for taking some photographs, Rocco answered, and Nicolo Carosio, the great radio sportman of the time, said, but you've become a model! No, says Rocco, it's your sister that is a model (which at the time was fairly offensive)
The following day... Cesare sees Rocco coming into the Assasino, with a loooooooooooong face, like a beaten dog
but signor Rocco, what happens?
"They've put my photographs on the walls!!"
All Milano was full of giantographies that read "Even Rocco dresses up in Facis" Carosio had just started to joke on him!!

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payman & Yuumei,

could you please provide us some information about this Paolo Taveggia? Who he exactly is? Where did he come out this idea to organise 80, 000 tifosi from Italy to Barcelona? How did he manage this exodus? It's amazing.

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Some more interesting facts about Milan, their players, their history and their presidents to come soon...

First, I was browsing through the archives of this site and other Milan related material and stumbled upon something that made me almost fell off my chair. This is dated to August of 2000, when Milan was about to play Dinamo Zagreb in the CL qualifying rounds. It says that at that time, San Paolo had played 62 CL games. That is a remarkable feat, however, what makes that an even more important fact is that San Paolo, alone has played more games in the CL/Champions Cup than Inter in their whole history!!!! That was in August of 2000. So by now, San Paolo must have played, I would guess about 70-75 CL games??? Is that the exact number? Does anyone know the exact number?

Can you believe that????MALDINI HAS PLAYED MORE CL/CHAMPIONS CUP GAMES THAN INTER IN THEIR WHOLE HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!

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World Club Cup. Milan-Estudiantes. Not a soccer game. Maldera comes to replace a highly injured teammate and Rocco stresses "get close to your man" Maldera is strangely away from him. Rocco calls him back, shouts out "what are you doing? I said, stick to your man!" Maldera, scared, said "Sir, I can't... e pinches!" Madero, his target, had a long wool needle which he stuck on Maldera's thigh whenever he got close to him...

March 1957,Viani's Milan on top, cousins at -8, Ferrero on the bench, that came from a 1-5 at the hands of Torino (yesss ) Viani jokes that he'll send the youth team. Benito Lorenzi, Inter forward nicknamed Poison, writes enraged to Guerin Sportivo on March 7, 1957 betting one milion to Inter: whoever loses will give it to charity. 70000 came and saw Milan advantage with a Gastone Bean goal (22') and the equalizer from Invernizzi (43') The milion? Angelo Moratti sent it to a foundation for the handicapped.

15th october 1956. Milan Padova, Appiani stadium: Padova wins 2-0, trainer Nereo Rocco. Viani, (Milan coach of the time) very shaken, gives his dimmission to President Rizzoli, who dismisses them and backs his trainer. The scudetto came on that very season.
1961. Milan Samp at San Siro stadium, Milan loses. Nereo Rocco, new trainer, resigns ("My sirs, I've taken the wrong squad, you have taken the wrong coach. This is your contract, goodbye, thank you ") Always Rizzoli commanding., that repeats his gesture with Viani: Milan is not used to change trainer when the season is running. That very same season arrives yet another scudetto.

1967.
Derby. Gianni Rivera scores, amid a protest from Inter players pointing out that the ball had bounced ouside the goal line. Rai TV operators have the idea of repeating the action at high speed (strangely it's called "slow motion") to see if it was a goal. It wasn't! but of course, the referee had said it was , and thanks to that 'goal non-goal' of Rivera, the goal replay was born!


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Mixer numbers.
Rivera, the archetype of number 10, debutted with #8, because Dino Sani owned that number.
Even if Baresi with Liedholm got number 6 on the enth scudetto year, the Baron was very superstitious and made him change numbers. At least on the season 86-87 he played with #4

Mythic Nereo Rocco almost always reserved a number for the last minute, most of times #11. But when preparing to play against Asparoukhov's Lewski Sofia, he changed the rule from #11 to # 1!!
He named the team from #2 to # 11 and left suspense until 20 minutes to playing time, between Cudicini and Belli. "Prepare their things, I'll think about it now".
He entered and exited the dressing room, amid the jokes and laughter of the rest of the players to the two goalies, always repeating "I haven't decided yet". He didn't realize that actually it was time to go up until Rivera, captain, askes "But this afternoon we play without a goalie?"
"What time is it?" Rocco demands. Silence. So he took the #1 and walked to Cudicini saying "Well, I'm sure I'll do a silly thing, but you play, only for a reason. Cos y'are tallie and for that Asparoukhov's head I **** on my pants"

Technical decision eh!

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Inter was born from a group of Milan fans who wanted more foreign players in the team. (they got their wish hahahahahaha ) They did so in a Monday morning 'because the week has to start properly' (what do they understand by 'proper start'? yoghurt and flakes? )The 'stemma' (shield) was that FCIM thingy they still have today, and old Milanisti laughed at them: "La societa che gh'a el distintiv che se poo minga legg" (the team that has the unreadable symbol )

1960's Milan-Padova, friendly. Rocco calls aside Trapattoni, "you see that number 8? " The Trap sees him, ready to bite on his legs. Rocco continues "Well, you touch him, I kill you" It was Bruno Rocco, his older son.

Altafini arrived to Italy sure of being a Roma player. But in the test he did, he colapsed and fainted. Gipo Viani - the great Milan manager of the time- saw that and started saying to other managers that Josč was epileptic. Roma refused the Brazilian and Milan got him.

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Dane Johannes Ploeger, that together with John Hansen and Karl Praest got on juve's eye at the London Olyimpics of 1948, was contacted while he was arriving by train to Milano to sign for... Milan!!! Juve managers paid his manager and made him sign for juve, in a moment when mr Giannetti, Milan's manager, was sleeping his nap... under his very noses!

When Nordhal was at Milano, he wanted to speak to Umberto Trabattoni, then president, and his son in law, wily manager Toni Busini - ex milanista- and said: "I know two swedish players that will make their mark here at Milan. I suggest you to buy them"

Busini listened to the Fireman (after selling a non alcoholic drink, svagdrich, Nordhal worked at a firestation to earn a living) and took those Swedes. That were Gunnar Gren "the Professor", and Nils Liedholm "the Baron"


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Il Pepe, Juan Alberto Schiaffino, is the only player ever to have taken his wife to the Italian National team's retirement. A polemic and ill-tempered player, he was also very money-conscious, somewhat mean. Milan was at an away game, Viani went to talk to him and asked him for a coffee. He refused. "Away games are at the society's charge" he reminded: no one was going to get HIM to pay a coffee!!

23-04-78, Milan-Verona, Franco Baresi debuts. At the end of the match, the Piscinin (little one) enters the dressing room and finds Rocco. 'Hey, silly, you played too?" At the time, the gap between the starting XI and youths was huge. And trainers made it felt: earn your grades, earn respect. His teammates just laughed and Franco... just wanted to hide somewhere.

Sacchi, arriving to Milan, asked his players to be addressed as Arrigo. Only two did: Virdis & Massaro. "Sorry Arrigo, this is not working", they usually said while training

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First game for Maurizio Ganz with Milan. 5-0 for Milan, derby in Italian cup, 97/98, with Capello. (Coppa Italia is almost always a disaster for Inter, eh? )

He had just celebrated his third day of Milan air, and Ganz comes to the field. Inter gave him always a tribute: a flag which read "EL SEGNA SEMPER LŮ" (he always signs there) And he scored!!

As always... the flag appeared!!!... but this time, proud and cutting the air in the midst of the Curva Sud!!

Some boys play soccer in the street. One of the teams lacks a player. A bald man, a passer-by, over 50, came and asks to fill the place. "Better this than playing without one" So the boys picked him as a playing goalkeeper. First ball he took, he went up, jumps the whole rival squad, prepares and shoots a Scud-like shot that gets under the 7 of the goalpost, unseen for the other goalie.

The balding individual was none other than Giovanni 'Basletta' Lodetti, ex Milan winger and unknown to many youths at the time. (Now he comments at TeleLombardia and is far better known)

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To illustrate the difference between his two most charismatic trainers, Liedholm & Rocco, Gianni Rivera said that the Parňn (Rocco) gave more responsibilities, the Baron was cooler and distanced. The difference he showed with this anecdote.distaccato e persino freddo. Ma la differenza la illustró cosí:

Rocco was late to arrival to the dressing roome and Altafini got the idea of doing a joke. He stripped and got into Rocco's closet, when the coach opened it, he jumped out yelling. Rocco stood there totally surprised and scared by a brief moment, then he began to yell insults at him. It was a rite: Altafini nude into the closet, Rocco that opens it, jump, yell, insults, laughter (Josč was very appreciated by Rocco because he took good humour to the dressing room)

Rocco went to Torino and Liedholm took his place. Altafini decided not to leave his joke undone, so off he went to the closet. Liedholm opens, Altafini jumps out yelling. General waiting (they were teammates in the 1950's Milan squads). But the Swede looks at him brows arched and says " Josč, this closet is mine, yours is over there"

This one is SO mythic - I can even imagine it -I recall it whenever I'm in a bad mood!!

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