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post #101 of 203 (permalink) Old June 2nd, 2019, 23:46
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Giampaolo's time at Empoli warrants a shot at a big club imo. If we are looking for the "next" Conte or Allegri, this is a good gamble.

He has a ton of managerial experience.
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Let's hope for the best.

I have not seen enough of Sampdoria, but his results there certainly don't seem to justify Milan going after him. Midtable results with Sampdoria are no more no less than should be expected. Maybe the way they play and his tactical knowledge do stand out as particularly impressive -- but they haven't particularly stood out whenever I've watched them the last few seasons.

His Empoli campaign before joining Samp is probably his biggest achievement though, building from Sarri's work but in fact improving their results (unlike with Sampdoria, midtable with Empoli is a big achievement) while also keeping the identity.
His biggest achievement is 10th place with the neo promoted Ascoli in 05-06, a team that didn't know it was supposed to play in Serie A until really late. Obviously this result was helped by point deduction of Lazio and the relegation of Juventus. Nevertheless it was a great achievement for a team that was initially build for Serie B.
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His biggest achievement is 10th place with the neo promoted Ascoli in 05-06, a team that didn't know it was supposed to play in Serie A until really late. Obviously this result was helped by point deduction of Lazio and the relegation of Juventus. Nevertheless it was a great achievement for a team that was initially build for Serie B.

Good memory. I didn't even know that one, at all.

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I also remember Galliani tried getting him before Berlusconi vetoed the move and appointed Brocchi.

All in all, not what we would have liked but in the absence of the desirable, he's the next best thing we can get in Italy.

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2. While this squad isn't spectacular, a very good coach can do better than what we saw both in the league and EL.

4. An Inzaghi or Giampaolo is okay by me. They are far better than hanging onto Rino.
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Two statements that hard to find basis in fact, pure subjective opinion which is ok.

What suggests that this squad is better than 5th, when its highest point tally for a while. All of us didnt predict to finish above Roma last August and 1 below Inter, lets be honest.

Why is inzaghi “far better” than Rino? Every coach’s pedigree is questionable unless he is a proven winner of titles and across different clubs even, neither of these guys are.

Milan is in limbo until its sold to a long term owner, i dont know many clubs winning titles whilst owned by a hedge fund, and now run by a CEO who led clubs that won jack shit on the pitch.

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So Maldini say yes and Giampaolo will be our next manager.

I am glad that Maldini took the offer but for Giampaolo I have my reservation.


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Giampaolo's time at Empoli warrants a shot at a big club imo. If we are looking for the "next" Conte or Allegri, this is a good gamble.



He has a ton of managerial experience.


A gamble that we hope to turn out well


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Amen to that. The options are extremely few and narrow. Inzaghi has renewed with Lazio. That leaves Allegri, Mourinho, Giampaolo, EDF, De Zerbi. Let's see if they will surprise us with one of the first two.

Otherwise it's either Giampaolo or EDF.

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That would be true if the Italian peninsula was the whole extent of the “known world”. Which to be fair seems to be the case when picking managers for Milan.

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Yes, right. It's just that I don't think they will go for a foreign coach. And personally I feel a foreign coach is too risky.

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More risky to go with the kinds of unexperienced managers we've been going so far, IMO. I really thought we were going to go all in aggressively and try to recruit the possible manager for once, but it's clearly not the case.

At any rate, if it's him indeed, Giampaolo seems like a clear improvement over all those before. I'm willing to make my peace and get behind him 100%.

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Giampaolo is an excellent coach from a tactical point of view but not the kind of coach who obtains the 101% from players. After having had both Sinisa and him I'm pretty sure the better coach was overall the former. You have had Sinisa so you know what you can expect from Giampaolo. Increasing the quality of your team will be crucial.
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Thanks for your input, Toni.

From seeing Mihajlovic's Milan and Giampaolo's Samp, the latter looked the more tactically adept team. Miha's tactics were mediocre. Yes, the squad was equally mediocre, but the fundamentals were not there in the way the team played.

Didn't pay much attention to Miha's Torino, but I cannot remember him getting many plaudits for his work there.
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Sacchi strongly approves of Giampaolo, that's good enough for me. 👍
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While it's a powerful endorsement, Sacchi says a lot of things. I remember not long ago Montella was "painting a masterpiece", "Milan should stick with Inzaghi", "Gattuso has restored the club's identity", etc.
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Giamp is meeting with Ferrero in order to resolve the contract.

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Giampaolo is an excellent coach from a tactical point of view but not the kind of coach who obtains the 101% from players. After having had both Sinisa and him I'm pretty sure the better coach was overall the former. You have had Sinisa so you know what you can expect from Giampaolo. Increasing the quality of your team will be crucial.
Other than Conte and Sarri I don't think anyone else gets 101% from their players. The exclusion applies to Gasperini who's able to get 150%.

Since coming back from Serie B. With Miha you guys had the better season and ended up 7th with 56 points, but Giamp has been able to get 53 and 54 points the last 2 years. And IMO during Giamp 1st season you had the best team on paper yet that was the weakest result he got.
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Other than Conte and Sarri I don't think anyone else gets 101% from their players. The exclusion applies to Gasperini who's able to get 150%.

Since coming back from Serie B. With Miha you guys had the better season and ended up 7th with 56 points, but Giamp has been able to get 53 and 54 points the last 2 years. And IMO during Giamp 1st season you had the best team on paper yet that was the weakest result he got.

Mihajlovic was tactically more flexible than Giampaolo. The stubborness of Giampaolo sometimes was our strength, other times our weakness. I think most of players who joined Giampaolo's Sampdoria and disappointed could partially blame Giampaolo for it. Gabbiadini is the biggest example of it. Mihajlovic found the way to make the most of him, Giampaolo couldn't. Another example is Jankto. In this case we are talking about a player who was overrated (and overpaid) but there is no doubt that at Udinese he played in a different position.
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Mihajlovic was tactically more flexible than Giampaolo. The stubborness of Giampaolo sometimes was our strength, other times our weakness. I think most of players who joined Giampaolo's Sampdoria and disappointed could partially blame Giampaolo for it. Gabbiadini is the biggest example of it. Mihajlovic found the way to make the most of him, Giampaolo couldn't. Another example is Jankto. In this case we are talking about a player who was overrated (and overpaid) but there is no doubt that at Udinese he played in a different position.
I find both overrated Manolo and Jakub. But both should have been able to deliver for Samp. Anyway other than Romagnoli and Donnarumma none of the other players have performed to their expectations so we're used to underperforming players. If he teaches basic football to Kessie and Hakan we're good.

Miha wasn't a bad manager, but he had a weak ass Milan squad, probably the weakest of the Berlu era.
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Mihajlovic was tactically more flexible than Giampaolo. The stubborness of Giampaolo sometimes was our strength, other times our weakness. I think most of players who joined Giampaolo's Sampdoria and disappointed could partially blame Giampaolo for it. Gabbiadini is the biggest example of it. Mihajlovic found the way to make the most of him, Giampaolo couldn't. Another example is Jankto. In this case we are talking about a player who was overrated (and overpaid) but there is no doubt that at Udinese he played in a different position.
If he can do two things, I would forgive his other weaknesses - teach our mids how to play football without that sterile lateral possession and the team how to press opponents when not in possession. These were criminally lacking in the last few seasons.

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No white smoke yet on Giampaolo, and no official news of any kind really, just the same rumors intensifying -- Giampaolo, Maldini, maybe now Boban as SD, Praet and the Danish CB.

Apparently official news on Giampaolo are not expected until next week.


Really curious about what decision will be made if we do get Giampaolo. Will he try make it work for Suso? Who would join for the midfield positions? I guess we'd have finally solved the left winger problem.

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