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Juve fans will never get it. Decades after decades everyone is telling them they cheat and thrill still come back to argue like “oh but it’s a 50/50 call” ... it’s pointless. They got caught and sent to jail and they are still innocent on 50/50 calls. Blasphemy.
Yet we're dominating way better without Moggi. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't with you peeps.

I agree on the awful refereeing. They're not on Juve's payroll. Lousy calls happen in *every* other non Juve Serie A game.

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post #102 of 130 (permalink) Old April 7th, 2019, 13:19
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Every Italian paper (even La Republica) and commentator acknowledges this was a robbery. According to Corrierre even Rizzoli the referee chief concluded that Fabbri ****ed up.

I've been following this league for 20 years and this happens over and over and over again. But no matter what, it is only the Juve fans who refuse to acknowledge they are favored. I wonder why.
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I don't think the refs are on Juve's payroll Rhizoid but it is undeniable they are favored. I think it has to do with the weird obsession of Italian refs to please the 40k fans in the stadium, as if there are not millions watching at home. Since Juve built their stadium the reffing situation has gotten worse because none of them want to be booed. They are ****ing pussies.

Even when Juve plays away, many Italians are such losers that they support Juve over their local club. So the weak minded refs are always trying to appease these people because they are everywhere.

I honestly don't see this ever changing and it sometimes gives me the desire to simply stop following the league.
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Every Italian paper (even La Republica) and commentator acknowledges this was a robbery. According to Corrierre even Rizzoli the referee chief concluded that Fabbri ****ed up.



I've been following this league for 20 years and this happens over and over and over again. But no matter what, it is only the Juve fans who refuse to acknowledge they are favored. I wonder why.


Nothing will change even this is being acknowledged. Will there be a rematch or poring deduction.
So what will be the next point of action. That’s what we need to see. AIA need to walk the talk.


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I don't think the refs are on Juve's payroll


This is Italy and Juve we’re discussing. The reality often exceeds expectations.

I remember when discussing Man United pen vs. PSG some weeks ago, Toni mentioned that this type of handball always results in a pen in Serie A. Therefore I was curious to see whether this applies for Juve. Unsurprisingly, there are different rules for them. But all Juve fans see is a 50/50 call. As frank mentioned earlier, a tale as old as time.
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This kind of handball has been given more and more in the era of VAR, so I can understand Milan fans feeling screwed by this ref. The use of VAR in this match again was inconsistent, which is the most frustrating thing with this tool. I would say Milan were robbed in the process of this refereeing yesterday.

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"Referee Michael Fabbri’s performance was criticised by all the major sports papers in Italy, above all for the decision not to award a penalty after viewing Alex Sandro’s handling offence on the VAR monitor."
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Please go back to your forum to enjoy all this kind of crucial referee "mistakes" that often come to Juve's way to save it whenever it legs behind/struggles in Serie A games.

There must be some causality that Juve has only 2 CL while you have 30+ Serie A titles, unlike RM, Barca, Bayern, etc. who dominate their respective domestic championships while also have the most CL titles under their belt among their respective domestic clubs.
The only causality is that we don't win as many CL finals as they do, which doesn't prove anything, does it?

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You still didn't answer. Was the 95th minute penalty you received a correct decision?

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You're comparing apples to oranges.

The Milan player is upright and does not make an attempt to remove his arms out of the possible trajectory of the ball, of course it's a penalty, he has control over his limbs in this situation.

In this position you're supposed to put your arms behind your back which he doesn't do.

Alex Sandro has fallen during a tackle and trying to regain his position when the ball hits him, he has absolutely no control over his arm, as he tried to upright himself.

I know that in this hyper-sensitive era there have been penalties given for less, but it doesn't make it correct.

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You're comparing apples to oranges.

The Milan player is upright and does not make an attempt to remove his arms out of the possible trajectory of the ball, of course it's a penalty, he has control over his limbs in this situation.

In this position you're supposed to put your arms behind your back which he doesn't do.

Alex Sandro has fallen during a tackle and trying to regain his position when the ball hits him, he has absolutely no control over his arm, as he tried to upright himself.

I know that in this hyper-sensitive era there have been penalties given for less, but it doesn't make it correct.
On the first penalty contest, Alex Sandro chose to slide on the ground. He was no where near stopping the cross if it wasn't for his arm. Somehow ref goes to VAR and doesn't give the penalty.

In the last block with the arm, the ball comes from a shot and it is stopped in the area. Should definitely have gone to VAR. The fact alone it didn't is robbery.
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You're comparing apples to oranges.

The Milan player is upright and does not make an attempt to remove his arms out of the possible trajectory of the ball, of course it's a penalty, he has control over his limbs in this situation.

In this position you're supposed to put your arms behind your back which he doesn't do.

Alex Sandro has fallen during a tackle and trying to regain his position when the ball hits him, he has absolutely no control over his arm, as he tried to upright himself.

I know that in this hyper-sensitive era there have been penalties given for less, but it doesn't make it correct.
You are seriously talking about apples and oranges
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Mussachio was pretty decent apart from the tackle on Dybala.
Calabria and Suso are bad.


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Incredibly unfair rating for Suso. IMO one of our best players yesterday. He created two extremely good chances that Piatek and Kessié missed.

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You're comparing apples to oranges.

The Milan player is upright and does not make an attempt to remove his arms out of the possible trajectory of the ball, of course it's a penalty, he has control over his limbs in this situation.

In this position you're supposed to put your arms behind your back which he doesn't do.

Alex Sandro has fallen during a tackle and trying to regain his position when the ball hits him, he has absolutely no control over his arm, as he tried to upright himself.

I know that in this hyper-sensitive era there have been penalties given for less, but it doesn't make it correct.
Wow... just wow

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That same exact penalty is given constantly in Serie A against the non-Juve teams.
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I've been following this league for 20 years and this happens over and over and over again. But no matter what, it is only the Juve fans who refuse to acknowledge they are favored. I wonder why.
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Juve-Fiorentina same incident, no penalty given to Juve.. only difference is that there was no "scandal"


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Juve-Fiorentina same incident, no penalty given to Juve.. only difference is that there was no "scandal"

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Watch how Piatek pulls Mario to the ground inside the box

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Incredibly unfair rating for Suso. IMO one of our best players yesterday. He created two extremely good chances that Piatek and Kessié missed.
LOL they gave Hakan 1.5 rating over Suso, thats insanity, the turk barely did zip except fail at freekicks, while Suso had several attacking movements he created.

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Juve fans will never get it. Decades after decades everyone is telling them they cheat and thrill still come back to argue like “oh but it’s a 50/50 call” ... it’s pointless. They got caught and sent to jail and they are still innocent on 50/50 calls. Blasphemy.
Yet we're dominating way better without Moggi. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't with you peeps.

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I just checked the Serie A table we are 5th with same points as Atalanta but shouldn't we be ahead on head to head?
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Incredibly unfair rating for Suso. IMO one of our best players yesterday. He created two extremely good chances that Piatek and Kessié missed.

Dribble and shot at goal?
He is one of the 3 forward on a 4-3-3 formation.
He is not getting anywhere near the opponent box due to his weakness and predictability.

That’s where I have mentioned Borini capability being able to get into the penalty box an shot on goal. Still both are average players.
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