Serie A 2019, Week 25. FRIDAY 22/02. Milan - Empoli, 20:30 CET, at San Siro - Page 2 - Xtratime Community
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post #21 of 128 (permalink) Old February 21st, 2019, 07:18
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I also just think we've also been a bit lucky if I'm honest. We have been far from impressive in many of these wins.

But the improvement in individual performances (except Suso) does lead to give credit to Gattuso. That's why I mentioned the mental aspect. He's managed to give these guys confidence. He doesn't change the lineup up too much, which can be frustrating, but this is one of pros of that approach. Donnarumma is the most obvious among several examples (Calabria, Musacchio, Bakayoko); hopefully Calhanoglu will be the next one. Last season he showed he is a streak kind of player, and even already last game after scoring he seemed like a different, more effective player.
You know going through the discussion that's exactly what I wanted to say but I felt some might misunderstand.

We've been lucky, really. Simply because we were not impressive and we actually don't even dominate opponents. But PornTech and Paquette were instrumental. Especially the former. The guy is simply too clinical. Great signings, even if Paquette is yet to hit full gear. And in any case, we've been unlucky in some previous games so this even out 😁.

We should also commend Gattuso. He is doing good of recent, I hope he's learnt some things.
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Gazzetta has Samu v. Lord Borini at 55/45% chance to start. We all know who will be starting right? 😉 #when45isbiggerthan55

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PS I would LOVE to see Biglia instead of Kessie, but won’t happen. Biglia w in form Bakayoko and Paquetta with Suso/Samu and Hakan on the wings ... with that Polish Kid up front ... could be really special. But ... Rino prefers the 0,5-0,00 wins

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Why so obsessed with Biglia? It's not like he has done anything special for us yet...That said he for sure is better than Kessie..
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I agree with bono, on the basis that;

- Biglia can show his best form from last season (IMO he played a big part in our run of form after the halfway point last season)
- Bakayoko can play just as well as CM as he does as DM

Both these things are realistic. However, Rino clearly values Kessie and in general he is relatively averse to making changes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Regarding Kessie, IMO he played well against Atalanta and even before that game showed some good things. Personally I think the criticism for him is overblown.
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I'm not sure about Bakayoko as a CM. He only started to shine after he took Biglia's spot and I'm worried he would get lost in another position. He is a huge reason our defense improved.

I don't know what Gattuso should do about this. He sees them in training every day, I'll respect his decision.
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I agree with bono, on the basis that;

- Biglia can show his best form from last season (IMO he played a big part in our run of form after the halfway point last season)
- Bakayoko can play just as well as CM as he does as DM

Both these things are realistic. However, Rino clearly values Kessie and in general he is relatively averse to making changes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Regarding Kessie, IMO he played well against Atalanta and even before that game showed some good things. Personally I think the criticism for him is overblown.
I agree that Kessié was decent against Atalanta, although he still has trouble making simple things, mostly because of his poor technique to control and pass. I do think criticism is justified. He cost a lot of money, always gets to play, and has done very little to justify either. I am more and more certain that part of it is the role. He's just not suited for what is expected of him in this mezz'ala role. As said before, he's more suited to a Kanté under Conte type role -- play in the center alongside another DM or regista, with plenty of freedom to roam and press and attack players defensively and even make runs, not just stuck on one side, defensively running up and down in a straight line in a more tactically disciplined way, and depending on his technique and creativity to contribute offensively in fairly small spaces. We saw some of that against Atalanta, where he was all over the place, I'd say in a good way.

I wouldn't touch Bakayoko for now. Far out as this may sound, I might even prefer to see Biglia in Kessié's position (again, for now) or switching with Paquetá. Bakayoko seems to have the skillset for the CM role, but really he sucked when he had to play in that position at Chelsea and is excelling at DM. Biglia on the other was not excelling at DM and covers as much ground as Kessié if not more (according to stats), and can do more than Kessié with the ball. I still think that with these guys, in the long run, it seems like 4-2-3-1 might be the way to go.

At any rate, Biglia should get minutes sooner rather than later. Likely he'll come in later against Empoli if possible and perhaps then start against Lazio? If he performs then, we can talk.

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I think he shouldn't be exempt from criticism, but IMO it has got to the point where it seems to overshadow anything good that he does.

Regarding his technique, he is similar to Hakan in that his technique isn't bad but his application of it is inconsistent (not saying he is technically on Hakan's level, but they both suffer from this in different ways). Some of Kessie's touches and moves are actually very good, but what always sticks in the mind with him are those occasions where he is in a good position and makes the wrong decision. It's a mental thing more than a technical one. It's also a physical problem, as the energy he expends covering so many kms is always going to compromise his decision making and technique.

Agreed that Biglia needs some minutes. Needs to get match fit and his sharpness back then Rino can see what he wants to do with him.
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My reason is more of seeing Paqueta higher up field playing nearer to Porntek.
Biglia could play alongside Bakayoko in a 4-2-3-1 setup. He strings passes around well and could take a better role than Kessie. Milan imposing our games to the opponent is better than having two tanks.

Conti to take Suso place is realistic.

We need to shake our mids! Lets see what Gatusso will do but I won’t hold my breath on this.


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To tinker a bit:

Donnarumma

Conti-Musachhio-Romagnoli-Rodriguez

Kessie-Biglia-Bakayoko

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I think he shouldn't be exempt from criticism, but IMO it has got to the point where it seems to overshadow anything good that he does.

Regarding his technique, he is similar to Hakan in that his technique isn't bad but his application of it is inconsistent (not saying he is technically on Hakan's level, but they both suffer from this in different ways). Some of Kessie's touches and moves are actually very good, but what always sticks in the mind with him are those occasions where he is in a good position and makes the wrong decision. It's a mental thing more than a technical one. It's also a physical problem, as the energy he expends covering so many kms is always going to compromise his decision making and technique.

Agreed that Biglia needs some minutes. Needs to get match fit and his sharpness back then Rino can see what he wants to do with him.
The decision-making is poor, but recently I've been impressed by how poor his technique has been. I've honestly failed to see the very good touches -- so far he seems closer to Gattuso, at best Ambrosini-like in that regard. Hopefully you're right and it's confidence, but it doesn't seem like it.

The movement is a different matter. I do think he can move well, hence I think a positionally freer role, focused on pressing all over the pitch and making surprise runs, would make sense. Right now as mezzala he is playing like a tower playing in the position of the horse. I don't know what Kanté would be in chess (maybe the queen) but I want to see Kessié do that. I think his physicality would be best used all over rather than almost exclusively on one side of the pitch. The only caveat would be if we start using Conti often and he becomes an attacking monster; I guess in that case it would make sense to keep Kessié there to cover him.

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Couple of things for this game:

Small chance that Conti could start reported.

More importantly, Strinic returns to the squad, which is heart-warming good news given he faced career-threatening health issues.

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I like hT and jani's thinking with the different formations. On paper they have potential.

As you said van, we saw Kessie with a freer role against Atalanta, so could be something we'll see again.

Just to add one fine example of Kessie's ability, which unfortunately we don't get to see often enough. Do you recall his move against Koulibaly? He was on the right flank and beat him with a great combination of touch, balance and strength. I can recall other occasions where he's also made good moves and link-ups, but as we know there are plenty of examples of the bad (picking the wrong pass in the final third and poor shot technique being the usual suspects).
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Conti to start indeed!

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---------------Donnarumma

---Conti---Musacchio---Romagnoli---Rodriguez

------Kessie-----Bakayoko----Paquetá----

----Castillejo-----Piatek----Calhanoglu----

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Good to see Conti and Castillejo starting. The former deserves it for his great performance as a sub (2 assists I think?) and the later because Suso needs a rest to come back to his senses.

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PAQUETA!!! Nice play, great cross from Rodriguez

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Good to see Conti and Castillejo starting. The former deserves it for his great performance as a sub (2 assists I think?) and the later because Suso needs a rest to come back to his senses.

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Suso is suspended though. Still, I agree. Suso is not doing great at the moment.

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WTF no goal... Everybody was offside....

VAR takes way too long though, very poor communication

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