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post #61 of 78 (permalink) Old January 28th, 2019, 02:36
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By the way, this has been been making the news. It makes me feel old as **** but it's nevertheless interesting and probably good: against Napoli, we fielded only players born after 1990.
Our team core is extremely young, with Suso probably being the oldest at 25.

Donnarumma (19)

Conti (24) - Caldara (24) - Romagnoli (24) - Calabria (22)

Suso (25) - Kessie (22) - Paqueta (21) - Calhanoglu (24)

Cutrone (21) - Piatek (23)

The above average age is 22.7 years old

Others:

Bakayoko (24)
Castillejo (24)
Jose Mauri (22)
Plizzari (18)

with the veterans of the squad:
Biglia (32)
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Rodriguez (26)

We have a very good core, but is meaningless if you see how Arsenal were in the past.

Still need one or two "big players" (supposed to be Higuain and Bonucci...) for us to compete in the future. Obviously need more big players to compete now.

By the way, I like Borini - just not as the first (or second, third or fourth....) option off the bench.
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I'm sure Borini is a very nice guy, I like him too... Just not on a football pitch
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I'm sure Borini is a very nice guy, I like him too... Just not on a football pitch [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.xtratime.org/forum/images/smilies/originals/lol.gif[/IMG]
Honestly, right now I’d probably start Borini over Hakan as LW. I think Hakan might be better coming off the bench (and not necessarily for LW) and Borini at least may score and get defenders tired (well defenders and Milan fans ) is more if a physical presence (if nothing else ).

Also Castillejo, Laxalt... Rino has to start playing Hakan elsewhere or just drop him, because it’s been a while and we can’t attack at from the left.

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Honestly, right now I’d probably start Borini over Hakan as LW. I think Hakan might be better coming off the bench (and not necessarily for LW) and Borini at least may score and get defenders tired (well defenders and Milan fans [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.xtratime.org/forum/images/smilies/originals/biggrin.gif[/IMG]) is more if a physical presence (if nothing else [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.xtratime.org/forum/images/smilies/originals/howler.gif[/IMG] ).

Also Castillejo, Laxalt... Rino has to start playing Hakan elsewhere or just drop him, because it’s been a while and we can’t attack at from the left.
Dear God no!

Dont you guy watch him play? Her drop the ball over the line just due to bad technique, he misses passes with a 10 meter margin. His defense is either being dribbled or fouling his opponent or about the level I saw from Higuain in that department. But the less noticable thing is how he dont show himself well on his side, so much that his side seems to be completely dead with him there.

Hakan at least show good combinations and crosses the ball over well to Suso, he just can't score at this time.

I'da take basically anyone in the squad before Borini on the lest side. Only role I would give Borini with us is 6th choice striker as at least he get into position in the penalty area.
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Hakan is contributing very little, it's not just that he is not scoring. He made a couple decent moves, but he also wasted a very easy 4 vs 2 counter, he can't put in a proper cross or set piece, and goes from very energetic to completely lethargic.

IMO the way we play, we could have used a inside forward type there for a while -- André Silva for example. Someone who can basically finish chances in the far post and create space for Rodriguez and now Paquetá, and run like crazy for 90 minutes.

Borini is poor but above all very clumsy, which IMO makes him look worse than he is, and some fans see those kinds of players as particularly useless. I don't think Borini is starting material, don't get me wrong, and I'd prefer Castillejo, but right now Hakan really has got on my nerves in that position, and I see him as one of the main reasons we can't seem to create good chances. I'm happy to see him in other roles though.

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Borini has zero technique, he simply can't play as part of a team. Hakan had some nice touches and combos with Paqueta, stuff Borini only does in his dreams.

I honestly think Borini would have trouble breaking into Chievo starting line up. He's that bad. He should be nowhere near the pitch for us, it's embarrassing every time he plays.
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Hakan is contributing very little, it's not just that he is not scoring. He made a couple decent moves, but he also wasted a very easy 4 vs 2 counter, he can't put in a proper cross or set piece, and goes from very energetic to completely lethargic.
Actually Hakan put in a great cross I think the previous game, one towards the far post, which the player there messed up. Problem with his crossing is that he do it to seldom, he instead take to many blocked shots.
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Actually Hakan put in a great cross I think the previous game, one towards the far post, which the player there messed up. Problem with his crossing is that he do it to seldom, he instead take to many blocked crosses.

He also played that excellent crossfield pass, which we have seen from him on occasion. His technique is excellent, just his application of it is inconsistent.

He's going through a bad patch right now but it could just be confidence. We know he is capable of better, he showed better form last season. Borini is a lost cause.
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calhanoglu is good, he just needs some time imo, i really wish we had a couple proper LWs so hakan could sit for a bit and just focus on training and freshen up his techs
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I like Hakan. I agree the position is probably big part of the problem, but he still should be doing much, much better, considering he's basically the manager's pet, and LW is not a crazy role for a player of his characteristics in the modern game either. What he needs is bench time, indeed.

He was booed on his way out too, which is terrible from the fans, though. I'd never do that, especially as the guy works hard and tries, and given the problem evidently has to do with with confidence... Anyway, let's hope he improves.

I'd still play Borini instead of him next time.

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Hakan is mediocre. By now we know that much. Players like him could be an OK bench players for reaching ucl spot regularly but can never be a player that makes a difference for a top club especially in a creative midfielder position. He could be useful for us if he recovers part of his form due to lack of alternative; but don’t kid yourself - he is a mediocre player.
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Hopefully soon we'll have a new LW to bash.
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Borini has zero technique, he simply can't play as part of a team. Hakan had some nice touches and combos with Paqueta, stuff Borini only does in his dreams.



I honestly think Borini would have trouble breaking into Chievo starting line up. He's that bad. He should be nowhere near the pitch for us, it's embarrassing every time he plays.


I don’t disagree with you.
But he knows to get into position inside the penalty box when the right side is about to cross in. He scored the goal against Genoa due to that.
But I can’t say the same to our RW is who wants the ball at his feet most of the time.


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Hakan is mediocre. By now we know that much. Players like him could be an OK bench players for reaching ucl spot regularly but can never be a player that makes a difference for a top club especially in a creative midfielder position. He could be useful for us if he recovers part of his form due to lack of alternative; but don’t kid yourself - he is a mediocre player.


Playing amongst the forward 3 in formation of 4-3-3, I expect players to contribute to goal tally. As simple as that.
How many free kick he scored?

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can't waste a chance to bash Suso

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Some of you talking about playing out of position.
But an advocate that formation is just a formation


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I am a fan that prefers ceilings than good stable low or middle. Hakan’s ceiling (the best he could be) is not that high. Same for Bona. I can live with stable medium with defenders or even DMs. But not with creative midfielders and forwards. We need stars there - which means people that have high ceiling, that can decide games with one touch, that can take over a game. I see something special in Piotek and a bit in Paquetta (and Conti) already. Suso has bigger ceiling than anyone else we have up front but needs few other top players around. I like Biglia a lot because of his conductor’s role. That’s all about Hakan really.

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