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post #12961 of 13226 (permalink) Old February 24th, 2019, 23:10
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Who saw Sarri not being able to sub Kepa? Bizarre as hell
Yeah, it was strange, funny, and sad at the same time.
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post #12962 of 13226 (permalink) Old February 25th, 2019, 00:00
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Are we talking about Muriel clear follow through a clear foul? really?
And since World Cup hand ball definition has changed.
The last minute one was obviously not a penalty.

EDIT: If not follow through a missed kick instead
Yes it was a clear foul. He missed the ball and kicked the opponent. It doesn't get more clear than that.

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Missing the ball while turning to shoot is as clear as a hand ball where you don't see the ball hitting your hand.

Don't want to keep arguing but there is one other point no one ever talks about, VAR says it applies when ref has made 'clear error', we are setting the bar very low for clear errors

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Missing the ball while turning to shoot is as clear as a hand ball where you don't see the ball hitting your hand.

Don't want to keep arguing but there is one other point no one ever talks about, VAR says it applies when ref has made 'clear error', we are setting the bar very low for clear errors

I can't believe we're even arguing this. He missed the ball and hit the defender (it was even a nasty tackle with his studs on his shin). Why should the intention count? He shouldn't profit for being clumsy and taking the defender out in the process.
Where do we draw the line? What's next? "Well he tackled the player but his intention was to play the ball so no penalty".

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Our city cousin is feeling the pressure

So now it becomes a race for 3rd and 4th


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Yeah, it was strange, funny, and sad at the same time.


Feel sorry for Sarri.
WTF moment.


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post #12967 of 13226 (permalink) Old February 25th, 2019, 06:41
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Just saw that Kepa incident. What a piece of shit. Players should never disrespect their manager like that, let alone a manager under pressure.

Looks like @Johan was right, the fact that it happened is a very clear sign that he's lost the dressing room.

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They both denied any drama immediately after, seems honest
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post #12969 of 13226 (permalink) Old February 25th, 2019, 09:38
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They both denied any drama immediately after, seems honest


Not two people believed its a “misunderstanding” story...thats just BS Sarri came up with to preserve dignity with the world which he already lost....look in the pic at faces of Willian and Giroud at his tantrum - how do you respect such a figure after today...

A sensible manager would go to touchline and signal to Kepa who is very young to come to speak to him on touchline , put an arm on the kid and say “are you okay to continue?” , a beserek clown personality would undermine a £72mn talent who is first choice keeper for many years to come , who even saved a penalty in semi final to take the team here, and kill his confidence about penalties by sending a 36 year old keeper out of contract this summer, and then do a show to the world by pretending to be storming out of tunnel and stadium altogether, he is an embarresement really...

And for some reason, Sarri never comes to the fans after the game home or away to do the customary clap round and thank the fans for support, he even didnt console any player after losing a final! always storms into tunnel, wtf!
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Not two people believed its a “misunderstanding” story...thats just BS Sarri came up with to preserve dignity with the world which he already lost....look in the pic at faces of Willian and Giroud at his tantrum - how do you respect such a figure after today...

A sensible manager would go to touchline and signal to Kepa who is very young to come to speak to him on touchline , put an arm on the kid and say “are you okay to continue?” , a beserek clown personality would undermine a £72mn talent who is first choice keeper for many years to come , who even saved a penalty in semi final to take the team here, and kill his confidence about penalties by sending a 36 year old keeper out of contract this summer, and then do a show to the world by pretending to be storming out of tunnel and stadium altogether, he is an embarresement really...

And for some reason, Sarri never comes to the fans after the game home or away to do the customary clap round and thank the fans for support, he even didnt console any player after losing a final! always storms into tunnel, wtf!


I can’t believe what I am reading here.

Sarri was diplomatic with that after match comments. He could go and blow up the whole situation and burn the bridge.
Many of us would in fact.


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I can't believe we're even arguing this. He missed the ball and hit the defender (it was even a nasty tackle with his studs on his shin). Why should the intention count? He shouldn't profit for being clumsy and taking the defender out in the process.
Where do we draw the line? What's next? "Well he tackled the player but his intention was to play the ball so no penalty".

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The other angle showed it better. This is a collision, not a tackle. In fact the inert player came to block him and got his leg instead of the ball. You can't call a foul on this, or at least it is not as clear as you make it sound.
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Not two people believed its a “misunderstanding” story...thats just BS Sarri came up with to preserve dignity with the world which he already lost....look in the pic at faces of Willian and Giroud at his tantrum - how do you respect such a figure after today...

A sensible manager would go to touchline and signal to Kepa who is very young to come to speak to him on touchline , put an arm on the kid and say “are you okay to continue?” , a beserek clown personality would undermine a £72mn talent who is first choice keeper for many years to come , who even saved a penalty in semi final to take the team here, and kill his confidence about penalties by sending a 36 year old keeper out of contract this summer, and then do a show to the world by pretending to be storming out of tunnel and stadium altogether, he is an embarresement really...

And for some reason, Sarri never comes to the fans after the game home or away to do the customary clap round and thank the fans for support, he even didnt console any player after losing a final! always storms into tunnel, wtf!
Kinda like he stormed out of the stadium and didn't shake hands with pepe after the 6-0, and you were on with that?
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Clearly Sarri could have handled it better, but this is all on Kepa. You see the board and you get out of there, period.

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post #12974 of 13226 (permalink) Old February 25th, 2019, 15:59
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Let in a easy Kun penalty too

If no other reporting existed on Trump/Russia, the fact that the FBI started a CI investigation to determine whether or not the sitting president of the US was either comprised by or an agent of Russia, it would be the biggest political story...ever.

Soros is very, very rich and funds every SJW-cause imaginable. Those are facts, not a conspiracy.

I agree with him that this was a total setup
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A good point was made about Caballero's PK saving ability and the fact he is more likely to second-guess which way the City players would go with their penalties. Just the fact that he may know can sow a seed of doubt into a City player's head, and penalties are as much a mental challenge as anything else.
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Isn't that beside the point though? There's a reason most of us watch dozens or hundreds of football games a year and have almost never seen this happen before. Players yell, insult, refuse to shake hands, even fight their managers, sometimes say they don't want to leave for a few seconds... but flat out refusing to obey orders is a first to me. I'm thinking the captain of the team should have intervened, and also wonder whether the referee could have done something or what he said to Sarri.
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Isn't that beside the point though? There's a reason most of us watch dozens or hundreds of football games a year and have almost never seen this happen before. Players yell, insult, refuse to shake hands, even fight their managers, sometimes say they don't want to leave for a few seconds... but flat out refusing to obey orders is a first to me. I'm thinking the captain of the team should have intervened, and also wonder whether the referee could have done something or what he said to Sarri.
Wonder what people would think if the ref carded him for time wasting.

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Isn't that beside the point though? There's a reason most of us watch dozens or hundreds of football games a year and have almost never seen this happen before. Players yell, insult, refuse to shake hands, even fight their managers, sometimes say they don't want to leave for a few seconds... but flat out refusing to obey orders is a first to me. I'm thinking the captain of the team should have intervened, and also wonder whether the referee could have done something or what he said to Sarri.

True, it is beside the main point (i.e. - regardless of Sarri's rationale, Kepa should have come off immediately, no questions asked).
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I'd imagine an old-school captain like John Terry would have basically carried Kepa out of the field himself.

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Isn't that beside the point though? There's a reason most of us watch dozens or hundreds of football games a year and have almost never seen this happen before. Players yell, insult, refuse to shake hands, even fight their managers, sometimes say they don't want to leave for a few seconds... but flat out refusing to obey orders is a first to me. I'm thinking the captain of the team should have intervened, and also wonder whether the referee could have done something or what he said to Sarri.
The ref cannot do anything if a player refuses to leave the field.
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