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February 22nd, 2002, 14:43
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Star Player
Join Date:
12 2000
Location:
South of the equator
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The Spring season
In other leagues this would mean a resumption in the league, but in the current format, it results in the autumn 12 team Nationalliga format being split into 8 top teams progressing to the championship round, and the bottom 4 joining the top 4 from Nationalliga B in a promotion/relegation series
So in summary it is kind of a resumption (rather than a whole new season), but in a different format
Anyway here are the fixtures for the first round of the spring season (starts on Sataurday 23rd February
23/02
St Gallen v Grasshoppers 15:45
24/02
Lugano v Basel 13:30
Young Boys v Sion 13:30
FC Zurich v Servette FC 15:15
The Nationalliga A table finished like this
P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Basel 22 13 4 5 52 37 15 43
2 Lugano 22 11 5 6 39 33 6 38
3 Grasshoppers 22 11 4 7 50 33 17 37
4 St Gallen 22 9 8 5 38 32 6 35
5 Servette FC 22 9 7 6 36 29 7 34
6 Sion 22 10 3 9 40 29 11 33
7 Young Boys 22 8 7 7 35 28 7 31
8 FC Zurich 22 7 9 6 24 27 -3 30
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9 Aarau 22 7 6 9 28 25 3 27
10 Neuchatel Xamax 22 6 7 9 28 36 -8 25
11 Lausanne-Sports 22 4 4 14 24 49 -25 16
12 Luzern 22 3 4 15 23 59 -36 13
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And here is the Nationalliga format (important info as it has implications on promotion/relegation)
1. Wil 22 12 5 5 53 - 32 41
2. Winterthur 22 12 3 7 48 - 48 39
3. Thun 22 11 5 6 42 - 32 38
4. Delemont 22 11 5 6 33 - 26 38
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5. Yverdon 22 10 5 7 37 - 31 35
6. Carouge 22 8 7 7 27 - 26 31
7. Kriens 22 9 3 10 28 - 30 30
8. Bellinzona 22 7 4 11 26 - 33 25
9. Baden 22 5 9 8 40 - 37 24
10. Locarno 22 6 5 11 28 - 34 23
11. Vaduz 22 5 7 10 34 - 43 22
12. Concordia 22 5 4 13 34 - 58 19
So here is how the tables line up taking into account the promotion/relegation issue
Championship group
P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Basel 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22
2 Lugano 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19
3 Grasshoppers 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19
4 St Gallen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18
5 Servette FC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17
6 Sion 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17
7 Young Boys 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16
8 FC Zurich 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15
and the Promotion/Relegation group
P W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Aarau 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 Neuchatel Xamax 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 Lausanne-Sports 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 Luzern 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5. Wil* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6. Winterthur* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7. Thun* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8. Delemont* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
*: promoted fron Nationalliga B
I'm really looking forward to the resumption of the league  and therefore, feel free to discuss anything relating to the league :hopefull:
Last edited by JamGraffiti : February 23rd, 2002 at 14:07.
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February 22nd, 2002, 15:11
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Legend
Join Date:
09 2000
Location:
Oslo, Norway
Teams: Aalesunds FK & Crystal Palace
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Well you forget something Andreas...the teams in the top league start with half the points they had in the autumn part of the season
With the lead they have already, Basel should take it home quite easily.....  Will be nice to see the Swiss league start again 
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February 22nd, 2002, 15:38
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#3
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Star Player
Join Date:
12 2000
Location:
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yes i did remember this, but i was unsure about how it worked, or to be more specific, how to put in in a league table
I guess i just leave the table as is EXCEPT divide their current points by 2
Thanks for the help
BTW, i liked "that" audio clip 
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February 22nd, 2002, 19:37
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#4
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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I also believe in Basel winning the league, but no way easy. My GC will once again be the team to beat.
And don't underestimate Lugano!
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February 23rd, 2002, 19:23
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#5
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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St.Gallen GC 2:2 (2:1)
6'Imhof, 14'Eduardo, 22'Gane, 72'Nunez.
St.Gallen: Stöckli; Winkler, Imhof,
Chaile, Jenny; Müller (77'Zanni), Jai-
ro, Di Jorio (59'Berger); Gane (86'Je-
fferson), Bieli.
GC: Borer; Schwegler, Hodel, Smiljanic,
Berner; Baturina (61'Ippoliti), Caba-
nas, Spycher; Eduardo, Nunez, Chapuisat
(69'Benjamin).
ESPENMOOS: 11300
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February 24th, 2002, 14:29
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Star Player
Join Date:
12 2000
Location:
South of the equator
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HALF-Time scores: 24/2/2002 (CET ;) )
Nationalliga A (Championship group)
* Lugano 1, FC Basel 2 (Lugano were 1-0 when i first checked the score  but must have reverted back to their cup form (and Basel must have woken up as FCB scored 2 goals in 2 minutes)
* Young Boys 3, Sion 0
n.b FC Zurich-Servette still to be played
Nationalliga A/B (Promotion/Relegation group)
* Delemont 0, Lausanne Sports 0
* Lucerne 0, FC Wil 1
* Xamax 2, Aarau 0
* Winterthur 0, Thun 0
Nationalliga B
* Etoile Carouge 0, FC SC Kriens 4 (played yesterday)
* Concordia 0, AC Bellinzona 0
* FC Locarno 3, FC Vaduz 0
n.b FC Yverdon-Sports-FC Baden to be played @ 16:15 CET
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February 24th, 2002, 17:53
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Lugano - Basel 2:5 (1:2)
1-0: Sutter (4'),
1-1: Yakin M (43')
1-2: Koumantarakis (44')
1-3: Yakin H (67')
2-3: Rossi (67') (  ; must have been from the restart)
2-4: Gimenez (71')
2-5: Gimenez (83')
Lugano: Razzetti; Biaggi, Zagorcic,
Brunner; Gaspoz 68', Bullo (55'Bastida
Rota 74', Shala (77'Rothenbühler);
Sutter;Rossi, Colautti (55'Magnin J.).
Basel: Zuberbühler; Barberis, Zwyssig,
Yakin M., Atouba; Ergic, Cantaluppi,
Chipperfield (88'Savic); Yakin H.
(75'Quennoz); Gimenez (88'Tum), Kouman-
tarakis.
CORNAREDO: 6700
Red cards for Gaspoz and Rota (both Lugano). A strange game, to say the least...
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Zürich - Servette 0:2 (0:1)
0-1: Frei (33')
0-2: Frei (67')
FC Zürich: Pascolo; Jeanneret, Keller,
Fischer, Quentin; Heldmann, Magro
(78'Burki), Baumann (57'Akale);
Guerrero; Chassot, Renfer (65'Yasar).
Servette: Pedat; Londono, Mieville,
Wolf, Bah; Lombardo (92'Senderos),
Lonfat, Mitchkov, Sanou; Obradovic
(85'Marcelo), Frei (70'Robert).
LETZIGRUND: 4000
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Young Boys - Sion 4:0 (3:0)
1-0: Tikva (4')
2-0: Vardanjan (25')
3-0: Descloux (45')
4-0: Vonlanthen (89')
YB: Collaviti; Eugster, Vardanjan,
Rochat, Hänzi; Tikva (81'Nzati),
Mitreski, Petrosian, Descloux;
Häberli (75'Fryand), Patrick
(83'Vonlanthen).
Sion: Beney; Hottiger; Furo Y.
(46'Tcheutchoua) , Duruz; Deumi,
Piffaretti, Ekobo (82'Doglia), Vernaz,
Bridy, Ojong (46'M'Futi), Moreira.
NEUFELD: 9'000
Xamax 3-1 Aarau, Winterthur 1-2 Thun, Luzern 1-2 Wil, Delemont 4-0 Lausanne
Last edited by JamGraffiti : February 25th, 2002 at 11:26.
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February 26th, 2002, 08:37
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Legend
Join Date:
05 2000
Location:
Vienna, Austria
Teams: FC Barcelona, First Vienna FC 1894
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Basel strong as usual, and Young Boys obviously managed to keep their good from from the test games.
The new table:
Code:
1 Basel 1 1 0 0 5:2 25 ( 22 )
2 GC 1 0 1 0 2:2 20 ( 19 )
3 Servette 1 1 0 0 2:0 20 ( 17 )
4 Lugano 1 0 0 1 2:5 19 ( 19 )
5 St.Gallen 1 0 1 0 2:2 19 ( 18 )
6 YB 1 1 0 0 4:0 19 ( 16 )
7 Sion 1 0 0 1 0:4 17 ( 17 )
8 FC Zürich 1 0 0 1 0:2 15 ( 15 )
I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman.
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February 26th, 2002, 08:38
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Legend
Join Date:
05 2000
Location:
Vienna, Austria
Teams: FC Barcelona, First Vienna FC 1894
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And I just realize you guys started a prediction league while I was away.
Good decision. 
I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman.
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February 26th, 2002, 13:26
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#10
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Star Player
Join Date:
12 2000
Location:
South of the equator
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Nice table MxPx  . The rows and columns are prefectly straight which is no easy task in my experiences
Abt the prediction league: Feel free to join :hopefull: (as a certain saying goes, "the more the merrier" ). I will get hold of the fixtures for this weekend once they come out 
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February 26th, 2002, 14:41
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Legend
Join Date:
05 2000
Location:
Vienna, Austria
Teams: FC Barcelona, First Vienna FC 1894
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fixtures:
Code:
Basel - FC Zürich 02.03. 16.45
GC - YB 02.03. 17.30
Servette - Lugano 03.03. 16.15
Sion - St.Gallen 03.03. 14.30
Aarau - Delémont 02.03. 17.30
Thun - Luzern 03.03. 14.30
Lausanne - Xamax 03.03. 14.30
Wil - Winterthur 03.03. 14.30
And count me in, of course. 
I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman.
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February 26th, 2002, 17:35
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Basel - FC Zürich 3-1
GC - YB 5-2
Servette - Lugano 1-1
Sion - St.Gallen 1-1
Aarau - Delémont 0-0
Thun - Luzern 2-0
Lausanne - Xamax 1-2
Wil - Winterthur 3-0
Tie-breaker?
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February 27th, 2002, 01:43
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Star Player
Join Date:
12 2000
Location:
South of the equator
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Thanks for the fixtures MxPx. I did find them in some of the Swiss newspapers, so i'll know where to look from now on
Viola, i thought it would be best if we made a seperate thread for each prediction round as this thread would end up becoming cluttered and having new threads for each round would make it easier for New players to join.
Also, i thought we were playing the 1-X-2 system. We can predict "scores" if that is what everyone would prefer  , but then there would be no need for a tiebreaker. The winner would be the person with the most correct results and best predicted scores 
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March 2nd, 2002, 20:03
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Round 2
Sorry, I'm just used to the Austrian pl....
Basel : Zürich 1:0 (0:0)
1-0: 60' Koumantarakis.
Basel(4-3-1-2): Zuberbühler; Barberis, Yakin M.,
Zwyssig, Atouba; Ergic, Cantaluppi,
Chipperfield; Yakin H. (86'Tum); Gime-
Gnez(70'Quennoz), Koumantarakis.
Zürich(1-2-3-1-2): Pascolo; Fischer; Keller, Quen-
Qtin;Jeanneret, Burki, Hellinga, Akale;
Guerrero (67'Baumann); Renfer (56'Cha-
ssot), Yasar (80'Nef A.).
ST.JAKOB: 25871
Grasshopper Club : Young Boys 1:1 (0:0)
0-1: 57' Wardanjan,
1-1: 69' Chapuisat.
GCZ(4-5-1): Borer; Berner (62'Tararache), Ho-
del, Smiljanic, Schwegler; Dos Santos
E. (65'Mwaruwari), Baturina (71'Pe-
tric), Cabanas, Spycher, Nunez; Chapuisat.
YBB(4-4-2): Collaviti; Eugster, Vardanjan,
Haenzi, Rochat; Mitreski, Descloux, Pe-
trosian, Eseosa (75'Vonlanthen); Tikva
(60'Sermeter), Haeberli (87'Fryand).
HARDTURM: 6100
Last edited by JamGraffiti : March 3rd, 2002 at 12:46.
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March 3rd, 2002, 01:25
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Rising Star
Join Date:
02 2002
Location:
CH
Teams: FC St. Gallen
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These results are of no use for GC obviously, who are losing ground again...(not that I'd care...)
St. Gallen are playing FC Sion in their home ground on Sunday. Sion supporters are renowned for their great home support, while FCSG supporters' best away support usually is in Sion, too...
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March 3rd, 2002, 19:38
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Sion - St.Gallen 0:2 (0:0)
0-1: 65' Gane
0-2: 90 'Gane.
Sion (3-5-2): Beney; Furo Y. (53'Ojong), Hotti-
ger, Tcheutchoua; Perdichizzi D.
(63'MFuti), Piffaretti, Ekobo, Vernaz,
Duruz; Akgür, Moreira.
St.Gallen (4-4-2): Stöckli; Winkler, Imhof,
Chaile, Jenny; Müller, Guido (62'Dal
Santo), Jairo, Di Jorio (82'Zanni);
Bieli (71'Mokoena), Gane.
TOURBILLON: 4900
Servette - Lugano 1:0 (0:0)
1-0:62' Londono.
Servette (4-4-2): Pedat; Jaquet, Hilton, Wolf,
Fournier; Lombardo/64', Londono, Mit-
schkov, Bah (61'Sanou); Frei (79'Marc-
elo), Robert (85'Oruma).
Lugano (3-4-1-2): Razzetti; Biaggi, Zagorcic,
Brunner; Shala, Bullo, Bastida,
Rothenbühler (66'Colautti); Sutter
(85'Malgioglio); Magnin J., Rossi.
CHARMILLES: 3947
Last edited by JamGraffiti : March 4th, 2002 at 12:58.
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March 4th, 2002, 14:05
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Star Player
Join Date:
12 2000
Location:
South of the equator
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NLA (Finalrunde) - Table
1. Basel 2 2 0 0 6:2 28 (22)
2. Servette 2 2 0 0 3:0 23 (17)
3. St. Gallen 2 1 1 0 4:2 22 (18)
4. Grasshoppers 2 0 2 0 3:3 21 (19)
5. Young Boys 2 1 1 0 5:1 20 (16)
6. Lugano 2 0 0 2 2:6 19 (19)
7. Sion 2 0 0 2 0:6 17 (17)
8. Zürich 2 0 0 2 0:3 15 (15)
No surprise with Basel still out in front and looking in great shape. No surprise that Servette have moved into second after their great UEFA cup run. St Gallen and Young Boys also seem to be showing good form (the latter has carried this over from the winter break friendlies), but Grasshoppers are again disappointing and underachiving so far (and negative if their continued reliance on a 4-5-1 is anything to go by). Lugano have also been disappointing so far with 2 losses in a row (although they have played the top 2 teams)
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NLA/NLB
1. Thun 2 2 0 0 6:3 6
2. Wil 2 2 0 0 4:1 6
3. Xamax 2 1 1 0 4:2 4
4. Delémont 2 1 0 1 4:2 3
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5. Aarau 2 1 0 1 3:3 3
6. Lausanne 2 0 1 1 1:5 1
7. Luzern 2 0 0 2 3:6 0
8. Winterthur 2 0 0 2 1:4 0
Amazingly, Xamax is the only side from NLA to be in the top 4 (a promotion position). Still early days though with only 2 rounds played
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NLB:
1. Yverdon 2 2 0 0 9:3 24 (18)*
2. Locarno 2 2 0 0 7:3 18 (12)
3. Kriens 2 1 0 1 5:2 18 (15)
4. Bellinzona 2 1 1 0 3:2 17 (13)
5. E. Carouge 2 0 1 1 1:5 17 (16)
6. Concordia 2 1 0 1 3:3 13 (10)
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7. Baden 2 0 0 2 3:7 12 (12)
8. Vaduz 2 0 0 2 3:9 11 (11)
No surprise that Yverdon are leading here (as they should be), but things are not looking good so far for the little battlers from Lichtenstein, Vaduz  who are looking very shaky at the back
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March 6th, 2002, 21:26
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Zürich : Sion 2:1 (1:1)
5'Magro (P), 12'Piffaretti, 26'Yasar.
Zürich (3-4-3): Pascolo; Chihab, Fischer, Quentin; Jeanneret, Hellinga, Magro, Baumann; Yasar (56'Pallas), Renfer (46'Chassot), Akale (90'Nef A.).
Sion (4-4-2): Beney; Hottiger, Deumi, Tcheutchoua, Duruz; Marazzi (71'MFuti), Piffaretti, Ekobo, Bridy; Akgür (65'Yemweni), Moreira.
LETZIGRUND: 3100
Lugano : GC 1:0 (0:0)
87'Biaggi.
Lugano (3-4-1-2) : Razzetti; Biaggi, Zagorcic, Kaba; Gaspoz, Bullo, Bastida, Shala(74'Muff); Sutter (32'Moresi); Magnin J., Rossi.
GC (4-5-1): Borer; Schwegler, Hodel, Smiljanic/53', Spycher; Tararache, Cabanas (75'Gerber), Benjamin, Nunez (56'Ippoliti); Petric, Chapuisat (81'Dos Santos E.).
CORNAREDO: 2400
YB : Servette 3:1 (1:1)
15'Sanou, 45'Petrosjan, 89'Descloux,
92'Sermeter.
YB (4-4-2): Collaviti; Eugster (64'Geiser),
Wardanjan, Rochat, Hänzi; Sermeter,
Mitreski, Petrosjan (53'Patrick),
Descloux; Häberli (82'Burri), Tikva.
Servette(4-5-1): Pedat; Jaquet, Hilton, Wolf,
Fournier; Frei, Londono, Marcelo,
Mitschkov; Sanou (69'Oruma), Robert
(72'Bah).
NEUFELD: 9000
Last edited by JamGraffiti : March 7th, 2002 at 14:01.
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March 10th, 2002, 14:33
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Basel : YB 2:0 (2:0)
37'Gimenez, 45'Cantaluppi.
Basel: Zuberbühler; Barberis, Yakin M.,
Zwyssig (23'Quennoz), Cravero; Varela
(59'Degen P.), Chipperfield, Cantalup-
pi, Atouba (75'Savic); Koumantarakis,
Gimenez.
YB: Collaviti; Mitreski, Wardanjan,
Rochat, Hänzi (70'Vonlanthen); Häberli
(77'Geiser), Sermeter, Petrosjan,
Descloux; Patrick, Tikva (70'Burri).
ST.JAKOB: 30521
Servette : St.Gallen 2:2 (0:1)
5'Wolf (Eigentor), 53'/71'Robert,
79'Jenny.
Servette: Pedat; Jaquet, Hilton, Wolf,
Fournier; Bah, Mitschkov, Londono,
Lombardo; Frei (76'Oruma), Robert.
St.Gallen: Agosti; Jenny, Imhof, Chai-
le, Dal Santo; Müller (74'Zanni),
Mokoena (88'Walker M.), Guido, Berger;
Nixon (84'Oberli), Bieli.
CHARMILLES: 4018
Grasshoppers : Zürich 3:0 (2:0)
40'Hodel, 43'Chapuisat, 69'Eduardo.
GC: Borer; Schwegler, Hodel, Tararache,
Jaggy; Eduardo (82'Mwaruwari),
Baturina (89'Morales), Cabanas,
Spycher; Chapuisat (82'Petric), Nunez.
Zürich: Pascolo; Jeanneret, Keller,
Fischer, Quentin; Hellinga, Magro,
Baumann (60'Chassot); Guerrero (68'Pa-
llas), Akale, Yasar (46'Kawelaschwili).
HARDTURM: 9400
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March 15th, 2002, 21:53
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Legend
Join Date:
02 2000
Location:
Avusturya
Teams: Lazio - PAOK - BMG - Atleti - HJK - River - FAK
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Servette : GC 1:5 (1:1)
43'Robert, 45'Schwegler, 57'Nunez,
69'Dos Santos E., 72'Nunez, 78'Baturi-
na.
Servette: Pedat; Jaquet (38'Oruma),
Hilton (64'Mieville), Wolf, Fournier;
Bah, Londono, Mitschkov, Lombardo;
Frei, Robert (74'Sanou).
GC: Borer; Schwegler, Hodel, Jaggy;
Gerber, Baturina, Spycher (51'Smilj-
anic), Tararache ('); Dos Santos E.
(77'Kulaksizoglü), Nunez, Chapuisat.
CHARMILLES: 3791
The only number 1 is back!
Basel : Sion 4:0 (2:0)
18'/36'Yakin H., 60'Chipperfield,
74'Ergic.
Basel: Zuberbühler; Barberis, Yakin M.,
Zwyssig, Atouba; Varela, Cantaluppi
(63'Ergic), Chipperfield; Yakin H.
(79'Savic), Gimenez, Koumantarakis
(56'Tum).
Sion: Beney; Furo Y., Hottiger/21',
Grichting; Bridy, Piffaretti, Deumi,
Duruz; Ojong (46'Marazzi), MFuti
(82'Vernaz), Moreira (46'Akgür).
ST. JAKOB: 24407
Zürich : St.Gallen 1:0 (1:0)
24'Kawelaschwili.
Zürich: Pascolo; Keller, Fischer, Quen-
tin; Jeanneret (46'Chihab), Hellinga,
Magro (58'Burki), Baumann; Renfer, Ka-
welaschwili, Akale (79'Yasar).
St.Gallen: Stöckli; Jenny, Imhof, Chai-
le (81'Walker M.), Dal Santo (60'Win-
kler); Müller, Guido, Jairo (46'Jeffe-
rson), Berger, Di Jorio; Bieli.
LETZIGRUND: 5900
Lugano : YB 2:1 (0:0)
49'Bastida, 63'Rossi, 84'Sermeter (P).
Lugano: Razzetti; Kaba, Biaggi, Rothen-
bühler; Gaspoz, Rota, Bullo
(58'Moresi), Shala (72'Morf); Bastida
(79'Brunner), Magnin J.; Rossi.
YB: Collaviti; Eugster, Wardanjan
(46'Malacarne), Rochat, Hänzi; Tikva
(77'Burri), Mitreski, Petrosjan,
Descloux; Sermeter; Patrick
(71'Häberli).
CORNAREDO: 3400
The Argentine connection struck again.. 
Last edited by Viola : March 17th, 2002 at 21:11.
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