Young Marriage. - Page 5

Ronaldwho? · August 25th, 2011, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Liternit

Your mom is what we call a whore with morals, she must like to **** a lot but is too prune to do it without gods blessing.

Nah, she's had 100's of boyfriends.

She is a bit of a prune, though.

Liternit · August 25th, 2011, 22:42

Must be hard to have a mom like that, how do you feel about it?

Ronaldwho? · August 25th, 2011, 22:46

I left home when I was 17.

The Man with No Name! · August 25th, 2011, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Pila

The other 3/4 of the time she's sane, we often discuss if we got married too young, and the consensus is 'no' - we needed the early fighting out of the way, this just means we got over the first hurtle sooner, and in time to be young enough to truly enjoy eachother's company. Besides, I think those early trials test one's commitment. We learned early on just how seriously we took it - never did any of us threaten to end the marriage despite the fighting. And it paid off.

My only regret is not having the children a little earlier.

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Originally Posted by ToniSamp

yeah, pretty much agree with you (btw I also got married pretty late)

I concur, would have been cool to have had our first in my early 20's.

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Originally Posted by Liternit

the point is, if some people want it who the **** cares?

I just don´t understand why people would bother if someone married at 22 or 55 its their choices, some people are happier with another person others like to be alone for most of the time its a personal choice.

kat · August 26th, 2011, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Firdaus

Wait, is 50% just an example or is 50% the presumed share of one of two parties for joint tenancy?

Anyway, where do you draw the line? If you let a friend stay over indefinitely and they contribute to your expenses (which would include servicing the mortgage), do they get to claim a share of your house as well?

So what happens to the housewife upon divorce?

Good god, it's done case by case to get fair result.

and she gets a job? Or goes back to her dad?

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 10:54

According to what you say (which must be verified) a person from... Napoli would likely handle the Estonian legal system at his pleasure. You are lucky Napoli is more appealing than Estonia even with the garbage in the streets.

kat · August 26th, 2011, 11:22

Few Italians have tried and they have been kicked out faster than they realize. Don't jump, ok. You can keep your Napoli and garbage, we have clean streets and more tourists than we can already handle.

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 11:25

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Originally Posted by kat

Few Italians have tried and they have been kicked out faster than they realize.

1- probably your legal system is not so dumb as you have described it
2- surely Estonia is less appealing than Germany, who have a strong problem with Italian mafias ('ndrangheta in particular)

MarieL · August 26th, 2011, 11:39

Northeners are honest folk, too bad about your countrymen.

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 11:43

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Originally Posted by MarieL

Northeners are honest folk

They are not good enough at being dishonest or they are very good at not appearing for what they really are.

MarieL · August 26th, 2011, 13:01

And that's a bad thing? You'd rather have honest crooks than crookedly honest people? I find the latter better for everyone.

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 13:33

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Originally Posted by MarieL

You'd rather have honest crooks than crookedly honest people?

I have never talked about these honest crooks and crookedly honest people you are talking about now. I can't even say they have a meaning since a person is either a crook or honest. The honest crook is what? A person who steals all your things but leaves your socks? And the crookedly honest? Robin Hood? Try to write things which mean something, FFS.

MarieL · August 26th, 2011, 13:52

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Originally Posted by ToniSamp

they are very good at not appearing for what they really are.

Well what did you mean by that exactly? I thought you meant that they're dishonest on the inside, but act in a seemingly honest way, which would make them crookedly honest. The end result still makes everyone's life easier, unlike people who just abuse every system as much as they possibly can with no shame. But hey at least they're "smart", when it comes to fullfilling their selfish desires of course. Those I call honestly crooked. Russians are like that, and before someone gets their panties in a twist, I live with one and she's always mentioning that, since it's such a fundamental difference between Finns and Russians. She seems to find us naïve and submissive, even if she's not exactly complimenting Russians for their behaviour either. But she still acts that way herself, since "that's how we are". Honest crooks, the lot of them.

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 14:00

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Originally Posted by MarieL

Well what did you mean by that exactly? I thought you meant that they're dishonest on the inside, but act in a seemingly honest way, which would make them crookedly honest. The end result still makes everyone's life easier, unlike people who just abuse every system as much as they possibly can with no shame. But hey at least they're "smart", when it comes to fullfilling their selfish desires of course. Those I call honestly crooked.

How would you define Berlusconi?

MarieL · August 26th, 2011, 14:08

Honest crook.

From my point of view it's unbelievable that he could stay in power for so long, but when there are enough people around who are honest crooks themselves, or at least find it a justifiable way to be and act, then... well it's understandable. It wouldn't be here. He'd be laughed out the door before he got anywhere near any position of power.

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 14:11

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Originally Posted by ToniSamp

They are not good enough at being dishonest.

oh, btw, I wonder how this group of people suits your definition of honestly crook. It can't infact I didn't offer two alternatives which were necessarily antithetical, yours are.

ToniSamp · August 26th, 2011, 14:15

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Originally Posted by MarieL

Honest crook.

From my point of view it's unbelievable that he could stay in power for so long, but when there are enough people around who are honest crooks themselves, or at least find it a justifiable way to be and act, then... well it's understandable. It wouldn't be here. He'd be laughed out the door before he got anywhere near any position of power.

how did you think he got the power? Thanks to the honest crooks around him or thanks to the people who thought he could change the country for the better... who thought that he was honest in what he did because this was the message they got?

MarieL · August 26th, 2011, 14:18

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Originally Posted by ToniSamp

oh, btw, I wonder how this group of people suits your definition of honestly crook. It can't infact I didn't offer two alternatives which were necessarily antithetical, yours are.

Well weren't you giving two alternatives for why Northeners appear honest? I was talking about Italians as honest crooks and Northeners as crookedly honest (according to your logic). So what exactly are you trying to say? And it does suit the definition of crookedly honest (don't get it twisted

) They want to cheat thus are crooked, but they fail, so the end result is honest.

Firdaus · August 26th, 2011, 14:24

Just admit the terminology doesn't cover all the ground you want it to.

And it sounds awful.

MarieL · August 26th, 2011, 14:24

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Originally Posted by ToniSamp

how did you think he got the power? Thanks to the honest crooks around him or thanks to the people who thought he could change the country for the better... who thought that he was honest in what he did because this was the message they got?

I don't know how one could get that message. I mean just look at him!

Well maybe he was less of a freak back in the day, I wasn't old enough to remember. But the issue isn't how he got into power, anyone can fool people for a short period of time. How they stay in power despite being so totally... crooked... well it's something else entirely. People must be able to turn a blind eye, for whatever reason.

Firdy, shuddup.