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Old August 25th, 2011, 14:28   #101
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Any info about the draw? Is it tonight? What possible opponents? Are there seeded teams etc (like for the play off draw)?
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Old August 25th, 2011, 14:31   #102
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Is it tonight?
Well, at least I can answer this question my self. The Group stage draw is tomorrow at 13.00.

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/management/newsid=1651736.html

And the games will be played:

Group stage, Matchday 1 15/09/11
Group stage, Matchday 2 29/09/11
Group stage, Matchday 3 20/10/11
Group stage, Matchday 4 03/11/11
Group stage, Matchday 5 30/11-01/12/11
Group stage, Matchday 6 14-15/12/11
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Old August 25th, 2011, 14:34   #103
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Any info about the draw? Is it tonight? What possible opponents? Are there seeded teams etc (like for the play off draw)?
And this is also from the homepage (not sure if it ads that much):

"Group stage
The 38 play-off round winners join the ten losers from the UEFA Champions League play-offs. The clubs are split into 12 groups of four teams, playing home and away against each of their pool opponents between September and December. Two sides from each section advance, proceeding into the round of 32 alongside eight third-placed teams from the UEFA Champions League group stage."


This would suggest some sort of seeding, dividing the clubs in four "levels". But it might just be a straight up draw? Also, I suppose teams from the same country can't be drawn against each other?

EDIT: Just checked. And, no, teams from the same country can't end up in the same group. Also the rules mention seeding (determined by UEFA-coefficent rankings). Seems like half the teams will be seeded and the other half not before the draw.

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Old August 25th, 2011, 14:37   #104
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Certainly there will be some kind of seeding, but probably they'll release it after all the playoff matches tonight.

Really looking forward to it, my ultimate wish is a match in Portugal, in or close to Benelux and one far away in Eastern Europe, at best a country I haven't been to yet.

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Old August 25th, 2011, 14:44   #105
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What possible opponents?
The 27 possible opponents that win tonights 2nd leg aren't determend yet (obviously), but the ten teams that were knocked out from the CL qualifying round are known:

Wisła Krakˇw, Maccabi Haifa FC, Malm÷ FF, Odense BK, FC ZŘrich, Udinese Calcio, FC Twente, FC K°benhavn, SK Sturm Graz and FC Rubin Kazan.

PS. Sorry about spamming the thread with a little Q & A of my own.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 14:48   #106
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PS. Sorry about spamming the thread with a little Q & A of my own.
Don't worry it's usefull info.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 15:05   #107
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Guys from what I have reading we will probably be in pot n║3 in the draw tomorrow. We need 5 or 6 teams (depending on the source) above us in the UEFA rankings to loose today in order to reach the pot n║2 in tomorrow's draw.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 15:16   #108
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Hmm that means at least two good opponents, that's going to be hard but we can beat several ones who're higher in the ranking, I'm sure of that.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 17:31   #109
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Guys from what I have reading we will probably be in pot n║3 in the draw tomorrow. We need 5 or 6 teams (depending on the source) above us in the UEFA rankings to loose today in order to reach the pot n║2 in tomorrow's draw.
I guess it's possible to cross-check the ranking list with current Europa League contenders to find out for sure. But it is a lot of work, so let's leave that for the paid journalists out there.

The list:

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociatio...lub/index.html

EDIT: Maybe high-ranked Spartak Moscow will lose to Legia. Agg. is at 4-4 right now...

Also a few higher-ranked-then-Athletic-teams (like Schalke 04, CSKA, Sparta Praha, AZ, Salzburg, Sevilla , Roma, Rangers, )are in trouble. Others (Celtic, PSV, Braga, Metalist, Sporting, Club Brugge) drew the first game and might lose tonight...

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Old August 25th, 2011, 17:59   #110
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Maybe high-ranked Spartak Moscow will lose to Legia. Agg. is at 4-4 right now...
And they did. Lost to Legia! One down and four-five to go!
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Old August 25th, 2011, 19:49   #111
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17 AtlÚtico Madrid
18 Hamburger SV
20 AS Roma Ita
22 Sevilla
24 Sporting CP Lisbon
26 Schalke 04
27 PSV Eindhoven
28 Tottenham Hotspur
30 Dinamo Kiev
31 Sporting Braga
33 Panathinaikos
39 Spartak Moscow OUT
40 FC K°benhavn
41 Glasgow Rangers
42 FC Twente Enschede
45 Fulham FC
46 Paris Saint-Germain
50 Anderlecht
52 Metalist Kharkiv
53 Standard LiŔge
54 Rubin Kazan
55 Besiktas
57 Celtic
59 Club Brugge
60 AZ Alkmaar
61 Hapoel Tel-Aviv
62 Udinese
67 Sparta Praha
74 FC Salzburg
75 AEK Athens

12 teams per pot = We have to be on the top 24 teams.

30 teams above us = We need 7 teams to loose.


Very difficult but...

1. Spartak
2...
3...
any candidates?

Celtic is loosing 1-0 and playing with 10, but actually I want them to win.

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By the way, how can we can the same points as Racing Santander???? who makes those rankings??
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Braga (vs Young Boys)
Schalke (vs Helsinki)
Celtic (vs Sion)
AEK Athens (vs Dinamo Tblisi)
Rome (vs Slavia Bratislava)

currently in trouble
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Braga scores the second
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Old August 25th, 2011, 20:32   #115
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Sevilla are 3-1 down on aggregate against Hannover!
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AEK scores on overtime and is almost qualified.

Our hopes:

Sion (vs Celtic) 1-0 up and Celtic with 10 men. 0-0 in the first leg
Helsinki (vs Schalke) 3-1 down, 2-0 in the first leg.
Hannover (vs Sevilla) 0-1 up, 2-1 in the first leg
FC Vaslui (vs Sparta Praha) 1-0 up, 2-0 in the first leg
Maribor (vs Rangers) 0-0, 2-1 in the first leg

We need one more appart from these 5

Edit: Shit, now Schalke makes the fourth
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Sparta Praha out, we need 5 more
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Update:

(this is quite exciting considering we are not playing..)

1. Spartak Moscow
2. Sparta Praha
3. Celtic? (3-1 down, 0-0 in Scotland)
4. Panathinaikos? (0-1 down, 3-0 in Tel Aviv)
5. Sevilla? (1-1, 2-1 in Hannover)
6. Rangers? (1-1, 2-1 in Maribor)
7. Salzsbourg? (0-0, 2-1 in Nicosia)
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Bursaspor to the post in the 90th!!! Sad as they would kick Anderlecht out with one more goal, that would be great news!

Salzburg scored.

Celtic lost.

4 more for pot n║2.
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Update:

(this is quite exciting considering we are not playing..)

1. Spartak Moscow
2. Sparta Praha
3. Celtic? (3-1 down, 0-0 in Scotland)
4. Panathinaikos? (0-1 down, 3-0 in Tel Aviv)
5. Sevilla? (1-1, 2-1 in Hannover)
6. Rangers? (1-1, 2-1 in Maribor)
7. Salzsbourg? (0-0, 2-1 in Nicosia)
Rangers out! And Celtic!
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