CSKA Moscow: Official Thread - Page 4

Dmitriy · June 29th, 2004, 20:01

bot how would we judge if Gusev played up to par?

Arianna · June 29th, 2004, 21:31

and how can judge him if i can't see him all the games?

Dmitriy · June 29th, 2004, 21:53

i have the same problem, so the bet is off

Arianna · June 29th, 2004, 21:58

...Otto will tell us about him btw

(right ,Otto?

)

Dmitriy · June 29th, 2004, 22:19

no way am i trusting Otto when it comes to CSKA, he's a Spartak fan. i can smell masa from 5,000 miles away.

Arianna · June 30th, 2004, 12:52

he's a Barça fan only

Dmitriy · June 30th, 2004, 16:07

Undercovr spartak fan i think.

Otto · July 1st, 2004, 12:43

I am only a Barca fan, right Ary.

As for CSKA and Spartak, I am not a Spartak supporter at all. We should just give tribute to its brilliant games of the last decade of 20th century.
As for CSKA, sorry Dim, but last year its playing didn't satisfy not only me but the whole russian football society (of course not CSKA fans). Their game was very simple as "kick and run". I saw almost all CSKA games and it really was. With fast and technique teams CSKA looked really pathetic. I thought that CSKA would prove all this year, but their first win they had only in 5th round. You can say they have a new coach but it's not only the coach's fault. CSKA's players weren't hungry of wins and goals, they were satisfied with last year perfomance. Very pity cos I really appreciate Giner.

As for the bet about Gusev, I guess he will fail this year.
In Dinamo he was the leader, last year he was the leader too. This year there are many players who can take its role. I am sure of it. Just intuition.

Arianna · July 1st, 2004, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Otto

As for the bet about Gusev, I guess he will fail this year.
This year there are many players who can take its role. I am sure of it. Just intuition.

nice to hear that

lol

Dmitriy · July 1st, 2004, 17:24

damn Otto u really like gutting CSKA huh.

Otto · July 1st, 2004, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Dmitriy

damn Otto u really like gutting CSKA huh.

Sorry Dim, but when the team plays not well, it is seen even from the furthest corner of the stadium

But I relly think that Giner will not let the things go like this.
I consider CSKA prez the best in post-soviet area. Maybe only Renat Ahmetov from Donetsk loves his team the same.

Dmitriy · July 2nd, 2004, 17:15

thanks for the kind words about Giner

i agree totally with u. i jsut hope CSKA doesn't become the new Chelsea. it's good that CSKA have become a big club with huge ambitions, but we have to spend our money wisely. a new stadium is the key to all this.

anyway, Dmitriy Kirichenko was asked about his rumored move to FK Moskva.

"I will never move to a club with no supporters, therefor i will stay with CSKA."

Otto · July 2nd, 2004, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Dmitriy

thanks for the kind words about Giner

i agree totally with u. i jsut hope CSKA doesn't become the new Chelsea. it's good that CSKA have become a big club with huge ambitions, but we have to spend our money wisely. a new stadium is the key to all this.

anyway, Dmitriy Kirichenko was asked about his rumored move to FK Moskva.

"I will never move to a club with no supporters, therefor i will stay with CSKA."

Dim, I am glad that we understood each other.
My point of view - is that a club-champion (CSKA last year

), a participant of CL is a face of the whole football of that country and is seen all over the world so we shouldn't be ashamed of its play and always be pride when our clubs take part in international games

. If in the place of CSKA were an other club, I would be so strict the same.

In CL It is not one of russian club. It is our CHAMPION

.

Dmitriy · July 2nd, 2004, 18:42

youre right. Loko's , Spartak's and hopefully CSKA's future success is for the whole of Russia and its football. and i've been syaing it for awhile now, but the Russian league is the future of European club football.

Otto · July 2nd, 2004, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Dmitriy

youre right. Loko's , Spartak's and hopefully CSKA's future success is for the whole of Russia and its football. and i've been syaing it for awhile now, but the Russian league is the future of European club football.

I am sure you are an incorrigible optimist

Dmitriy · July 2nd, 2004, 18:53

well there ar huge amounts of money pooring into our clubs. the Oil industry, bramovich with CSKA, the mafia. our league has gone threw a complete transformation, which started when Loko ended Spartak's dominance. we need world class stadiums now and good pitches, the climate will always be our main obstacle.

Otto · July 2nd, 2004, 19:13

While we have this old coaches's mentality, the things will not go better. Of course money talks, but many coaches don't use it properly and don't keep united even in honour od=f our football.

Each coach thinks he is the best and rules all by himself

Dmitriy · July 2nd, 2004, 19:17

that's true on the National Level. but domestically its not tht bad. hopefully the foreign coachs will bring new ideas to our game. look at Zenit for example. on the NT level the coaches still act like its the Soviet Union.

Arianna · July 3rd, 2004, 15:08

CSKA Moscow 3 - 3 Torpedo Moscow
33' J. Jarosik
53' Olic
67' I. Lebedenko (Torpedo)
68' I. Lebedenko (Torpedo)
70' Semshov (Torpedo)
80' Kirichenko

Oh well u were losing 3-2

u must say: "Thanks Kirichenko"!!!!

...Semshov rule

Dmitriy · July 3rd, 2004, 15:40

wtf is this, we're up 2-0 then we give up 3 in 3 minutes? wtf!!! man this is bullshit. i hope Zenit lose today, which i seriously doubt.