South Africa 2010 - Provisional list of seeds

[Edgar]

Assuming the WC place allocation stay the same, the highest ranked teams qualify from each confederation (play-offs included) and FIFA uses the same formula (pdf file) to determine the seeds, the seeded teams for South Africa 2010 would be:

South Africa (host), Brazil, Italy, England, Germany, France, Spain and Argentina

Using the same geographical criteria used for Germany 2006, these would be the pots:

Using the WC 2006 system to determine the pots:

Pot 1: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, South Africa, Spain
Pot 2: Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine
Pot 3: Australia, Costa Rica, Honduras, Iran, Japan, Mexico, USA, Uzbekistan
Pot 4: Cameroon, Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay
Special pot: Romania

Possible draw:

Group A: South Africa, Croatia, Honduras, Uruguay
Group B: Spain, Ukraine, Japan, Cameroon
Group C: Germany, Czech Republic, Costa Rica, Nigeria
Group D: France, Denmark, Australia, Paraguay
Group E: England, Portugal, Mexico, Guinea
Group F: Italy, Sweden, Uzbekistan, Colombia
Group G: Argentina, Netherlands, Iran, Cote d'Ivoire
Group H: Brazil, Switzerland, USA, Romania

[fwc]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edgar

Assuming the WC place allocation stay the same, the highest ranked teams qualify from each confederation (play-offs included) and FIFA uses the same formula (pdf file) to determine the seeds

FIFA has annouced that it will not use the same formula and will change the rankings before the seeding for the next World Cup starts.

[Edgar]

Link?

[Fernando Torres]

This will change after the Euro and any other Continental cup.

[Edgar]

Hence the word provisional.

It can't change that much. Half of the formula is WC performance and that won't change. The other half is an average of relative FIFA Rankings (December 2007, December 2008 and November 2009).

Anyway, here's the current seeding list:

Code:

                 Total WC FIFA
1 Brazil         61.3 29.3 32
2 Italy          58.3 27.3 31
3 England        54.3 26.3 28
4 Germany        54.3 30.3 24
5 France         52.3 23.3 29
6 Spain          51.3 25.3 26
7 Argentina      51.0 21.0 30
8 Portugal       47.3 22.3 25
9 Netherlands    41.7 14.7 27
10 Switzerland   35.3 15.3 20
11 Ukraine       34.7 16.7 18
12 Mexico        34.3 19.3 15
13 USA           30.7 13.7 17
14 Sweden        30.3 19.3 11
15 Czechia       29.0  6.0 23
16 Paraguay      25.7 11.7 14
17 Nigeria       24.7  2.7 22
18 Cameroon      24.0  3.0 21
19 Denmark       23.7  7.7 16
20 Uruguay       21.7  2.7 19
21 Cote d'Ivoire 19.0  6.0 13
22 Croatia       19.0  9.0 10
23 Australia     18.3 11.3  7
24 Japan         16.3 13.3  3
25 Costa Rica    13.3  8.3  5
26 Colombia      12.0  0.0 12
27 Iran           9.3  5.3  4
28 Guinea         9.0  0.0  9
29 Romania        8.0  0.0  8
30 Honduras       6.0  0.0  6
31 South Africa   4.0  3.0  1
32 Uzbekistan     2.0  0.0  2

Top 7 + South Africa - seeded

[Guy Incognito]

I hope Portugal skips over Spain somehow, I can't see why Spain deserve to be seeded again. When's the last time they won against a decent nation in a WC game - Was it Denmark in 86?

[ampersand]

i'd say the hosts plus all the wc winners ever should be the seeds. yes, that includes uruguay if they make it. if they don't, give it to portugal or spain. finito.

[GICA]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

I hope Portugal skips over Spain somehow, I can't see why Spain deserve to be seeded again. When's the last time they won against a decent nation in a WC game - Was it Denmark in 86?

Denmark in 1986 and England in 1950 before that.

[Oak1000]

In seed 1 South Africa will replace Mexico, no more changes.
Other seeds are quite changible.
The process should depend on world ranking alone ( its not fair too, tho ) , not from which continent the team is coming.

[ampersand]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

I hope Portugal skips over Spain somehow, I can't see why Spain deserve to be seeded again. When's the last time they won against a decent nation in a WC game - Was it Denmark in 86?

if denmark is decent, so is paraguay, whom spain beat in 02. they also beat belgium in 90.

[Guy Incognito]

I was talking about Denmark 86? The side which looked like potential WC winners in the group stages.. 6-1 vs Uruguay, Beating West Germany (who almost went on to win the thing)... That's a big step up from the likes of Paraguay.

[Deano]

Champions: Italy

[Hajduk_Hrvatska]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edgar

Assuming the WC place allocation stay the same, the highest ranked teams qualify from each confederation (play-offs included) and FIFA uses the same formula (pdf file) to determine the seeds, the seeded teams for South Africa 2010 would be:

South Africa (host), Brazil, Italy, England, Germany, France, Spain and Argentina

Using the same geographical criteria used for Germany 2006, these would be the pots:

Using the WC 2006 system to determine the pots:

Pot 1: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, South Africa, Spain
Pot 2: Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine
Pot 3: Australia, Costa Rica, Honduras, Iran, Japan, Mexico, USA, Uzbekistan
Pot 4: Cameroon, Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay
Special pot: Romania

Possible draw:

Group A: South Africa, Croatia, Honduras, Uruguay
Group B: Spain, Ukraine, Japan, Cameroon
Group C: Germany, Czech Republic, Costa Rica, Nigeria
Group D: France, Denmark, Australia, Paraguay
Group E: England, Portugal, Mexico, Guinea
Group F: Italy, Sweden, Uzbekistan, Colombia
Group G: Argentina, Netherlands, Iran, Cote d'Ivoire
Group H: Brazil, Switzerland, USA, Romania

If we were unable to make it out of this group, I would jump off a bridge.

[X player]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hajduk_Hrvatska

If we were unable to make it out of this group, I would jump off a bridge.

I'll save this post for later.In case Croatia doesn't make it.We'll miss ya.

[the_fan]

woooooo Uzbekistan!

[Edgar]

October 2006 update:

Code:

          		Total	WC	FIFA
1	Brazil  	61.3	29.3	32
2	Italy   	58.3	27.3	31
2	Germany 	57.3	30.3	27
2	England 	54.3	26.3	28
5	France  	53.3	23.3	30
6	Argentina	50.0	21.0	29
7	Spain   	48.3	25.3	23
				
8	Portugal	46.3	22.3	24
9	Netherlands	40.7	14.7	26
10	Ukraine 	36.7	16.7	20
11	Sweden  	36.3	19.3	17
12	Switzerland	33.3	15.3	18
13	Mexico  	33.3	19.3	14
14	Czech   	31.0	6.0	25
15	Ecuador 	25.0	17.0	8
16	Nigeria 	24.7	2.7	22
17	Ghana   	24.3	13.3	11
18	Cameroon	24.0	3.0	21
19	USA     	22.7	13.7	9
20	Croatia 	22.0	9.0	13
21	Turkey  	22.0	10.0	12
22	Paraguay	21.7	11.7	10
23	Cote d'Ivoire	21.0	6.0	15
24	Korea   	19.7	15.7	4
25	Greece  	19.0	0.0	19
26	Uruguay 	18.7	2.7	16
27	Australia	18.3	11.3	7
27	Japan   	18.3	13.3	5
29	Iran    	11.3	5.3	6
30	South Africa	4.0	3.0	1
31	Qatar   	3.0	0.0	3
32	Honduras	2.0	0.0	2

Pot 1: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, South Africa, Spain
Pot 2: Croatia, Czechia, Greece, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine
Pot 3: Australia, Honduras, Iran, Japan, Korea Republic, Mexico, Qatar, USA
Pot 4: Cameroon, Cote d'Ivoire, Ecuador, Ghana, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay
Special pot: Turkey

Group A: South Africa, Ukraine, Japan, Turkey
Group B: Germany, Croatia, Mexico, Paraguay
Group C: England, Greece, Qatar, Uruguay
Group D: Spain, Portugal, Honduras, Ecuador
Group E: Brazil, Switzerland, USA, Nigeria
Group F: Italy, Netherlands, Korea Republic, Cote d'Ivoire
Group G: Argentina, Czechia, Iran, Cameroon
Group H: France, Sweden, Australia, Ghana

[Edgar]

November 2006 update:

Code:

                  Total WC   FIFA
 1 Brazil         61.3  29.3 32
 2 Italy          58.3  27.3 31
 3 Germany        57.3  30.3 27
 4 England        54.3  26.3 28
 5 France         52.3  23.3 29
 6 Argentina      51.0  21.0 30
 7 Portugal       47.3  22.3 25
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 8 Spain          46.3  25.3 21
 9 Netherlands    40.7  14.7 26
10 Sweden         38.3  19.3 19
11 Ukraine        36.7  16.7 20
12 Mexico         32.3  19.3 13
13 Switzerland    31.3  15.3 16
14 Czech Republic 29.0   6.0 23
15 Croatia        27.0   9.0 18
16 Ecuador        27.0  17.0 10
17 Nigeria        26.7   2.7 24
18 Cameroon       25.0   3.0 22
19 USA            22.7  13.7  9
20 Cote d'Ivoire  21.0   6.0 15
21 Korea Republic 17.7  15.7  2
22 Australia      17.3  11.3  6
23 Greece         17.0   0.0 17
24 Japan          16.3  13.3  3
25 Romania        14.0   0.0 14
26 Uruguay        13.7   2.7 11
27 Iran           12.3   5.3  7
28 Egypt          12.0   0.0 12
29 Colombia        8.0   0.0  8
30 Uzbekistan      5.0   0.0  5
31 Cuba            4.0   0.0  4
32 South Africa    4.0   3.0  1

Pot 1: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, South Africa
Pot 2: Croatia, Czech Republic, Greece, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine
Pot 3: Australia, Cuba, Iran, Japan, Korea Republic, Mexico, USA, Uzbekistan
Pot 4: Cameroon, Colombia, Cote d'Ivoire, Ecuador, Egypt, Nigeria, Uruguay
Special pot: Romania

Group A: South Africa, Greece, Korea Republic, Ecuador
Group B: Argentina, Ukraine, Cuba, Romania
Group C: France, Spain, Australia, Nigeria
Group D: Germany, Netherlands, USA, Colombia
Group E: Portugal, Czech Republic, Iran, Cameroon
Group F: Italy, Sweden, Japan, Uruguay
Group G: Brazil, Croatia, Mexico, Cote d'Ivoire
Group H: England, Switzerland, Uzbekistan, Egypt

[Edgar]

February update:

The new FIFA rankings are out for February.

Ghana/Mali/Paraguay replace Egipt/Guinea/Colombia.

Portugal no longer seeded.

Top 7 teams seeded

(South Africa automatically seeded as hosts)

Code:

 1 Brazil         60.3 29.3 31
 2 Italy          59.3 27.3 32
 3 Germany        58.3 30.3 28
 4 England        53.3 26.3 27
 5 France         52.3 23.3 29
 6 Argentina      51.0 21.0 30
 7 Spain          48.3 25.3 23
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 8 Portugal       47.3 22.3 25
 9 Netherlands    40.7 14.7 26
10 Ukraine        38.7 16.7 22
11 Mexico         35.3 19.3 16
12 Switzerland    34.3 15.3 19
13 Czech Republic 30.0  6.0 24
14 Croatia        30.0  9.0 21
15 Ecuador        29.0 17.0 12
16 Ghana          27.3 13.3 14
17 USA            24.7 13.7 11
18 Paraguay       21.7 11.7 10
19 Cote d'Ivoire  21.0  6.0 15
20 Greece         20.0  0.0 20
21 Cameroon       20.0  3.0 17
22 Korea Republic 19.7 15.7  4
23 Japan          18.3 13.3  5
24 Romania        18.0  0.0 18
25 Australia      17.3 11.3  6
26 Uruguay        15.7  2.7 13
27 Iran           14.3  5.3  9
28 Nigeria         9.7  2.7  7
29 Mali            8.0  0.0  8
30 South Africa    4.0  3.0  1
31 Uzbekistan      3.0  0.0  3
32 Cuba            2.0  0.0  2

Pot 1: Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Italy, South Africa, Spain
Pot 2: Croatia, Czech Republic, Greece, Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Switzerland, Ukraine
Pot 3: Australia, Cuba, Iran, Japan, Korea Republic, Mexico, USA, Uzbekistan
Pot 4: Cameroon, Cote d'Ivoire, Ecuador, Ghana, Mali, Nigeria, Paraguay, Uruguay

Group A: South Africa, Ukraine, Korea Republic, Paraguay
Group B: England, Greece, USA, Cote d'Ivoire
Group C: Brazil, Portugal, Iran, Nigeria
Group D: Spain, Netherlands, Uzbekistan, Ghana
Group E: France, Switzerland, Cuba, Uruguay
Group F: Italy, Croatia, Mexico, Ecuador
Group G: Germany, Romania, Japan, Mali
Group H: Argentina, Czech Republic, Australia, Cameroon

[panicos]

and will it still be held in South Africa?

[Edgar]

It seems so