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Old December 28th, 2003, 15:37   #1
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Feyenoords victorious youth teams

Here in this thread, you'll find the latest about Hollands best young hopefuls. Its now the winterbreak so no glorious reports of our victories for 3 or 4 weeks but here is the latest table to glance and admire

Beloftencompetitie (Eredivisie)

1.Jong Feyenoord 11-28
2.Jong Ajax 11-23
3.Jong Heerenveen 11-19
4.Jong FC Twente 11-17
5.Jong Excelsior 11-17
6.Jong FC Utrecht 11-16
7.Jong Volendam 12-16
8.Jong RKC 11-12
9.Jong Willem II 11-11
10.Jong AZ 11-10
11.Jong PSV 10-9
12.Jong NAC 10-9
13.Jong Vitesse 11-9

The table of our B youth

1 Feyenoord B1 12 9 3 0 30 37 11
2 PSV B1 12 9 0 3 27 26 7
3 Ajax B1 12 7 2 3 23 23 14
4 FC Utrecht B1 11 6 2 3 20 28 19
5 AZ B1 12 6 2 4 20 23 34
6 SC Heerenveen B1 12 5 3 4 18 20 12
7 Willem II B1 11 5 0 6 15 27 24
8 ADO Den Haag B1 12 4 3 5 15 14 17
9 Emmen AV B1 12 2 2 8 8 12 38
10 Vitesse B1 10 2 1 7 7 12 21
11 NEC B1 10 1 3 6 6 8 21
12 Fortuna Sittard B1 12 1 3 8 6 17 29

and the D youth

D1 (Topklasse)

1 Feyenoord D1 12 12 0 0 36 70 7
2 Sparta D1 12 9 1 2 28 54 16
3 Excelsior R. D1 13 6 4 3 22 26 21
4 RVC/RIJSWIJK D1 11 6 2 3 20 27 19
5 ADO Den Haag D1 12 6 2 4 20 29 18
6 Excelsior M D1 12 5 3 4 18 19 22
7 Spartaan'20 D1 12 4 5 3 17 23 24
8 Alphense Boys D1 12 4 3 5 15 25 29
9 Spijkenisse D1 12 3 3 6 12 21 24
10 Barendrecht D1 12 2 1 9 7 13 33
11 UVS D1 13 1 2 10 5 9 53
12 SHO D1 13 1 2 10 5 8 58
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 09:46   #2
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Good start for Jong Feyenoord after the winterbreak. With only Acuna and Swerts from the first team, we managed to beat Willem II 3-0 with Harbuzi, Swerts and Jardim all scoring.

Still top of the tree

Other competitions resume later this week.
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Old January 24th, 2004, 16:42   #3
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Hey Wally

In which of these teams does Hossam Ghaly play ?

Got any stats about him ?

Thanks in advance.
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Old January 24th, 2004, 17:06   #4
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Hey Wally

In which of these teams does Hossam Ghaly play ?

Got any stats about him ?

Thanks in advance.
Hossam usually plays in Jong Feyenoord (our under 23 team). He has only played one game for the full team, coming on as a sub in the game against PSV. Played as a right back

Media says he has difficulties in adapting. Hope to see him for real in the African nations cup where he'll feel more at ease. Will he be in the starting eleven for sure btw? hope so that I could see him

Good luck btw in it
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Old January 24th, 2004, 17:54   #5
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Hossam usually plays in Jong Feyenoord (our under 23 team). He has only played one game for the full team, coming on as a sub in the game against PSV. Played as a right back

Media says he has difficulties in adapting. Hope to see him for real in the African nations cup where he'll feel more at ease. Will he be in the starting eleven for sure btw? hope so that I could see him

Good luck btw in it
Thanks for the info. At right back ? He never played at this position with Al-Ahly or Egypt. He plays at Sweeper, Stopper, DM and sometimes as on offensive midfielder.

Sadly he isn't a starter, well at least he isn't a SURE starter. He played like 15 minutes in Egypt's last friendly match at home to Burkina Faso.

Thanks for the wishes, we need them
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Why didn't you post the standings of the A1 Wally?
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Why didn't you post the standings of the A1 Wally?
Not important

Jong Feyenoord = the next generation of Oranje
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Ooh yeah? Name the great Dutch talent then who are in Jong Oranje. Remember, Swerts is from Belgium.
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Labinot Harbuzi! but he's Swedish and that guy we got from Willem II but yeah we have to thank Pardo, Bomba and Swerts and co for most of the results.

and specially for you Chivu, Feyenoords a1 result:

Feyenoord A1 3 - NEC A1 2

hopefully also to be repeated on Wednesday
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Iemand die het moeilijker heeft dan Danko Lazovic is Hossam Ghaly. De Egyptenaar verkoos de Africa Cup boven zijn club en daarmee heeft hij geen goede beurt gemaakt bij trainer Van Marwijk. Zeker nu blijkt dat er in de ploeg van Egypte vooralsnog geen plaats is voor de middenvelder. Tijdens het eerste duel zat Ghaly namelijk negentig minuten lang op de bank. ‘Ghaly kan maar niet begrijpen dat hij nog veel moet leren. Het lijkt of hij zichzelf beter vindt dan de rest van de groep. Voor zijn ontwikkeling was het beter geweest wanneer hij elke dag met ons zou meetrainen. Door om de haverklap voor een vertegenwoordigend elftal te kiezen, wen je nooit aan het Nederlandse voetbal. Ik ben er van overtuigd, dat wanneer Ghaly sinds zijn komst naar Feyenoord iedere training mee had kunnen doen, hij nu tachtig procent beter was geweest. En door de blessure van Ono was dit tijdstip ideaal geweest om hem speelminuten te geven. Als hij terugkomt, zal ik hem nog wel een keer vertellen dat het beter is dat hij meer voor zijn club kiest.’
Yeah it's in Dutch but Feyenoords trainer said that Hossam Ghali doesn't understand that he needs to learn to become better. It is as if Hossam thinks he's already better than the rest. The trainer also then says that Hossam would have now go playing time now that Shinji Ono is injured and he should have stayed in Holland instead of going to the Africa Cup since he will never adapt to Dutch football if he continues being absent. The manager is sure Ghali would be 80% better if he attended all training sessions and he wants to emphasize that it'd be better for his development if he chooses more for his club.

Our manager has a point in some way but then again we knew that we were signing a player who was going to be away for the African nations cup (which is his full right).
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Yeah it's in Dutch but Feyenoords trainer said that Hossam Ghali doesn't understand that he needs to learn to become better. It is as if Hossam thinks he's already better than the rest. The trainer also then says that Hossam would have now go playing time now that Shinji Ono is injured and he should have stayed in Holland instead of going to the Africa Cup since he will never adapt to Dutch football if he continues being absent. The manager is sure Ghali would be 80% better if he attended all training sessions and he wants to emphasize that it'd be better for his development if he chooses more for his club.

Our manager has a point in some way but then again we knew that we were signing a player who was going to be away for the African nations cup (which is his full right).
I Agree that if Ghaly stayed in Holland he would have got a bigger chance to play with Feyenoord. I dunno if you know Nader el-Sayed, Egypt's goalie. He was voted as Africa's best goalkeeper in 98, then he moved to Club Brugge. He used to be a regular there, but he lost his place as a result of call-ups to the NT. The problem with Ghaly's case is that if he opts to stay in Holland, he'll be massacred by the Egyptian media. They'll call him names like traitor etc..

What realy pisses me off is that he wasn't even on the bench against Zimbabwe !!
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Old January 28th, 2004, 15:04   #12
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I Agree that if Ghaly stayed in Holland he would have got a bigger chance to play with Feyenoord. I dunno if you know Nader el-Sayed, Egypt's goalie. He was voted as Africa's best goalkeeper in 98, then he moved to Club Brugge. He used to be a regular there, but he lost his place as a result of call-ups to the NT. The problem with Ghaly's case is that if he opts to stay in Holland, he'll be massacred by the Egyptian media. They'll call him names like traitor etc..

What realy pisses me off is that he wasn't even on the bench against Zimbabwe !!
Is that the goalie who injured himself during a game saying that he had been hit by a projectile from the crowd during an African CL game?

Not even on the bench?! real waste then are the guys ahead of him better then? or is it cos he doesn't get regular football at Feyenoord as I think it'd probably be?
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Is that the goalie who injured himself during a game saying that he had been hit by a projectile from the crowd during an African CL game?

Not even on the bench?! real waste then are the guys ahead of him better then? or is it cos he doesn't get regular football at Feyenoord as I think it'd probably be?
Naah. You are mistaking him for Tunisian goalie Shukry el-Waaer, Esperance player. That happened in the 2000 CAF Champions league final and it's true btw

Well, I guess it's because of the lack of playing time at Feyenoord AND the game plan.Ghaly mainly isn't a ball winner and our coach prefers to use one ball winner with Hazem Emam [more talented than Ghaly, ex-Udinese flop] who plays the role of the playmaker.
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 17:50   #14
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Hossam Ghaly might start tomorrow against Cameroon.
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Old February 2nd, 2004, 18:46   #15
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Wholesale changes for Egypt then I guess! it's a must win game, isn't it after the loss against Algeria?

Good luck in it! maybe Cameroon will take the foot of the pedal and be overconident after their thrashing in the last game!
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Well we're out, despite being one of the teams that played the best football so far in the tournament !

Anyway, Hossam Ghaly played realy well. He played for the full 98 minutes. In the first half, he was playing next to a pure ball winner. His role was similar to that of Andrea Pirlo with Milan. In the second half, he played as the sole defensive midfielder.

I Hope the guys at Feyenoord watched this match. Ghaly was all over Mbami and Djemba-Djemba.
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Ghali has already played again for our u23s team coming in as a sub. we won btw! beating RKCs u23 team 3-1 and we still are top of the league in this category

Doelpunten
Feyenoord 34. Anthony Lurling 1-0
56. Anthony Lurling 2-1
74. Dustley Mulder 3-1

Doelpunten
RKC Waalwijk 39. Chris Gyan 1-1 (e.d.)

Malkowski; Gyan, Van den Berg, Breinburg, Brown; Van den Ouweland, Swerts (46.Ghaly), Mulder; Harbuzi, Lazovic (77. Jean), Lurling.
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Swerts, Lazovic, Lurling.
I Thought those guys are all regular first team players ?!

Are they making comebacks from injuries or something ?

Hopefully Ghaly will play with the senior team and prove his worth. But not at Right-back.
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I Thought those guys are all regular first team players ?!

Are they making comebacks from injuries or something ?

Hopefully Ghaly will play with the senior team and prove his worth. But not at Right-back.
Yeah Lurling was coming back from injury as was Swerts I think. Lazovic is only a reserve player though even though we spent 6 million euros for him

Didn't see what you wrote before, I must have been sleepy but thats great news the current "ball winner" we have right now, Alfred Schreuder is as slow as a tortoise and Ghalis young legs would be ideal. Lets hope he manages to convince the trainer by training well our manager can be a bit stubborn though
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Lost to jong AZ 0-1 already a few weeks ago but our last fixtures in the compeition have been cancelled cos of poor pitches, weather etc.

We'll play jong PSV in the Amstel cup for kiddies I think if I remember correctly and Ajax are in the other one against someone else.
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