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Juanele1973 September 22nd, 2002 20:09

Valerón out for two months.
 
Article basically says that Valerón will be out of action for 7 to 8 weeks from the injury he received in the game yesterday. Big blow for Depor as he was your main playmaker.


El Deportivo se queda sin Valerón dos meses

Juan Carlos Valerón estará dos meses de baja después de que se haya confirmado que el canario sufre una pequeña fractura del peroné sin desplazamiento. El mediapunta del Deportivo fue literalmente 'cazado' por el boliviano Peña en el partido del pasado sábado en Riazor. Desde ese mismo momento se vio que la lesión podía ser de gravedad como posteriormente se ha confirmado después de que el internacional haya sido examinado por los servicios médicos coruñeses. El doctor César Cobián confirmó el alcance de la lesión de Juan Carlos Valerón y estableció el periodo de recuperación en siete u ocho semanas.

Ahora Jabo Irureta se encuentra con el problema de no tener un sustituto para el canario después de la marcha de Djalminha al fútbol austríaco por lo que el técnico vasco deberá improvisar un mediapunta.

el niño September 22nd, 2002 21:04

Bad news for Depor indeed after that horrendous assault from Peña:( Guess they will regret the loan of Djalminha.

Time for Lendoiro to put his money where his mouth is after the "Tres Ronaldos" comments. Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut :D

Not that I like seeing Valerón out though, I always cheer on Depor (and other spanish teams) in Europa and he is always important for España. Recover soon, you hear?! :)

labas September 23rd, 2002 01:42

Just as we discussed possible replacements for Juan in the other thread... it happens:(

Looks like Toro's gonna have to step up big time now.
8 weeks isn't that bad for a broken ankle though. Seems quite short actually. Or is it planetfootball.com being themselves and not distinguishing the difference between a break, a sprain and a knock?:rolleyes:

Juanele1973 September 23rd, 2002 03:17

Quote:

Originally posted by labas
Looks like Toro's gonna have to step up big time now.
8 weeks isn't that bad for a broken ankle though. Seems quite short actually. Or is it planetfootball.com being themselves and not distinguishing the difference between a break, a sprain and a knock?:rolleyes:

It's a hairline fracture of the fibula. 8 weeks sounds about right.

Vampire Lestat September 23rd, 2002 08:45

Alternativly, and i know this is radical as Depor has played the most constant formation for so many years now (4-5-1)....

But with Makaay in this kind of form, and Tristen getting back to full fitness, why not play a standard 4-4-2, with Victor and Fran as wingers, and Tristen and Makaay upfront?

bailemos September 23rd, 2002 17:05

I don't know why you're suggesting Toro for the position, Labas, but it's time for 4-4-2 now. I'd prefer Tristan and Luque up front, Tristan as striker, Luque as forward and Makaay on the bench.

VL, Fran and Victor are almost always our wingers whatever formation we use:)

Alter Ego September 23rd, 2002 19:52

Quote:

Originally posted by bailemos
Makaay on the bench.

:eek: :eek: :dazed:
what r u smoking?
The guy just had a hat trick against on of the
biggest powerhoses in Europe
and what he gets according
to your master plan, is a piece in the bench
Come on

bailemos September 23rd, 2002 19:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Alter Ego
:eek: :eek: :dazed:
what r u smoking?
The guy just had a hat trick against on of the
biggest powerhoses in Europe
and what he gets according
to your master plan, is a piece in the bench
Come on

Everyone's praising Makaay at the moment, does that mean he works well together with Tristan?
No, they have been playing/shining separately, playing as the only striker. Makaay doesn't suit in my plan indeed ;).
Makaay is best as striker, so is Tristan but Luque can play a wider position.

So, if Tristan is fit to play, I'd like to see
Victor------------------------------------------Fran

-------------------------------Luque
-------------------Tristan

Alter Ego September 24th, 2002 00:33

there is something in the world
of sports that u cant never understimate
and thats MOmentum,,, I dont care if
u got a master plan or u are just play
mr genius doing something so ilogical,
stuff like this is the first cause of
manager s dissmisal this early in the
season.

bailemos September 24th, 2002 09:42

Acuña will play. I don't see how he could replace Valeron. He has played very little and almost every time as Victor's substitute/replacement. Is that really better than a Tristan-Luque duo that works?

labas September 28th, 2002 04:36

Quote:

Originally posted by bailemos
Is that really better than a Tristan-Luque duo that works?
Works? Based on what? They're in the same team for one month, and that's enough to bench Makaay., who's on fire?

bailemos September 28th, 2002 19:15

Makaay is statistically on fire. His finishing has improved greatly and he was given excellent assists but no more genial passes are given... before 2-3 months. Luque and Tristan have had 2 matches together (they both come from Mallorca, so they know each other well but that's not the case). And they are very creative, unlike Makaay, and now that we lost one super-creative player, he needs to be replaced by 2.

Also Victor Sanchez is injured, so things are not well...

labas October 2nd, 2002 20:05

bailemos, no offense, but sometimes I see you're completely full of sh*t.

Luque and Tristan do not know each other. Since you make such ridiculous claims, be so humble as to figure out why, now that I've told you:tongue:


And still what exactly is your point for them playing instead of Makaay? That Valeron is out? Since when is Luque creative?:wth::wth:

Rubbish my friend. Plain rubbish.

bailemos October 3rd, 2002 17:44

Quote:

Originally posted by labas
bailemos, no offense, but sometimes I see you're completely full of sh*t.

Luque and Tristan do not know each other. Since you make such ridiculous claims, be so humble as to figure out why, now that I've told you:tongue:


And still what exactly is your point for them playing instead of Makaay? That Valeron is out? Since when is Luque creative?:wth::wth:

"completely full of sh*t"? For suggesting Luque and Tristan up front? I have already explained why they should play that way.
About Luque being creative, that's true. He knows how to play as attacking midfielder just behind the striker and has done that, successfully. Makaay and Tristan aren't that good together.
It's you who's ridiculous here suggesting Toro to replace Valeron...

Luque and Tristan certainly know each other. They are teammates for the second time now and although their relationship hasn't been so good, they have improved it a lot now playing for Deportivo. Tristan was one of the first who visited Luque at the hotel when he first arrived to greet him.
Quote:

Originally posted by labas
Rubbish my friend. Plain rubbish.

I know it isn't meant like that but still... don't call me your friend.;)

labas October 3rd, 2002 23:37

No, Tristan and Luque have not played together before. I thought you'd catch on:tongue: Whilst Tristan was at Mallorca, Luque was on loans to Malaga and some other club.


I'm not being revolutionary, because I am sticking to obvious facts here... Irureta hasn't changed his tactic for years now, so I don't expect him to suddenly do it now. And wether you wanna put Luque as a attacking midfielder (which I don't remember him ever playing), or not, has little significance, because everyone knows what this guy really is.

Replacing the playmaker spot will be very hard, and there's two ways out of it:
a) playing Toro there, because HE DOES have experience in this role
b) changing the whole tactic... which might happen, heck I don't know. But why you insist on Luque and Tristan so bad is just beyond me! I can't see any reasonable explanation for your fascination with this duo? Heck, it might even work, but the way you're gossipping about it at this forum, you'd at least think Irureta has given a hint it might happen...

this isn't Champ Manager man:tongue: You don't have much control in the real life:D;)

bailemos October 4th, 2002 20:15

What will happen is that Makaay is the striker and Tristan the playmaker. I don't think Makaay is as good as a striker as Tristan is, and I don't think Tristan can handle the playmaker role better than Luque who actually has played as attacking midfielder.
Toro isn't offensive enough to take the role, nor creative enough.

I didn't say Tristan and Luque have played together at Mallorca because I don't remember seeing that. But they were teammates there ;)

labas October 6th, 2002 16:35

For the third time - they have not even been in the same team. Understand this.


And when did Luque play AM?:confused:

bailemos October 10th, 2002 14:53

Quote:

Originally posted by labas
For the third time - they have not even been in the same team. Understand this.


And when did Luque play AM?:confused:

You, Real Madrid fan Labas, you surely know more about Luque than himself, right?

Quote:

Interview with Albert Luque
Q: In Mallorca, you had great matches in the midfield position. Valerón has not returned yet. Do you think you could play in his position?

A: No, I know it. I played sometimes in that position in Mallorca, but when I leave requests to me that it does not lower to receive, that I have left there above, that works. And one is only for obeying when manager and doing what he requests to you.



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