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HajdukSplit August 23rd, 2004 18:46

2.HNL
 
Anybody know any sites the follow this league. I understand that the season started this past weekend and I am trying to follow it but no sites update anything.
Take a look at some clubs in the second league who have had success in the first in previous years: Cibalia, Vukovar 91', Hrvatski Dragovoljac (my favorite :) ) Segesta Sisak, and GOSK Durbrovnik, one of the original HNL clubs.

Cibalia are the heavy favorites for promotion after a 1-0 victory over Marsonia where they didn't record one shot on goal! Segesta Sisak and Belisce are considered the favorites according to the people back in Croatia.

Hrvatino August 23rd, 2004 21:27

I know that you have the results and table on sportnet, but I think you allready are aware of that :)

I think the best way to follow these clubs is to find the official page of their cities, and see if they wrote any reports or small notes...

HajdukSplit August 23rd, 2004 22:00

the one on sportnet is from last season, they don't update it much :(

Hrvatino August 23rd, 2004 22:20

Yeah I saw that :( Even the one from 1.HNL is from last season...

HajdukSplit August 23rd, 2004 22:28

these are all the results I know, I don't even know all the clubs from Jug and Svejer:
Cibalia 1 Marsonia 0...Graficar 0 Koprivnica 1...GOSK 1 Segesta Sisak 1...Sibenik 0 Mosor 0.

they also read some results on the radio program which broadcasts the first division games but they say them so quickly and only once in the whole program. :D

dinamovac11 August 24th, 2004 09:31

I hope Hrvataski Dragovoljac can do something in memory of Spajic. :cry:

Not sure that will happen though because they like most clubs are in financial crisis.

HajdukSplit August 24th, 2004 12:51

Hrvatski Dragovoljac were a great club and they had some great players but in only a few seasons they got some decent results: Robert Prosinecki, Boris Zivkovic, Vlatko Dologna, Frane Petricenvic, Neno Katulic, Marin Lalic and they had good young players. I was very sad when they were relegated, one reason why I liked them so much is because Hrvatski Dragovoljac was the first team I saw play live, at Siget but they lost 3-1, Bjelanovic scored two (it was a few seasons ago) :)

HajdukSplit August 25th, 2004 03:45

RESULTS KOLO 1
Sjever
Cibalia - Marsonia 1:0
Graficar - Koprivnica 0:1
Vukovar - Slavonija 0:0
Bjelovar - Cakovec 3:3
Belisce - Metalac 3:2
Valpovka - Dilj 0:1

Jug
GOSK - Segesta 1:1
Sibenik - Mosor 0:0
Pomorac - Solin 2:2
Novalja - Naftas 3:1
Uskok - Imotski 1:2
Dragovoljac - Sesvete, the match was not played because of the death to Stjepan Spajic. :(

HajdukSplit August 25th, 2004 04:05

2.HNL TABLE
Sjever
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
Belisce 1 1 0 0 3:2 3
Cibalia 1 1 0 0 1:0 3
Dilj 1 1 0 0 1:0 3
Koprivnica 1 1 0 0 1:0 3
Bjelovar 1 0 1 0 3:3 1
Cakovec 1 0 1 0 3:3 1
Slavonija 1 0 1 0 0:0 1
Vukovar 1 0 1 0 0:0 1
Metalac 1 0 0 1 2:3 0
Graficar 1 0 0 1 0:1 0
Marsonia 1 0 0 1 0:1 0
Valpovka 1 0 0 1 0:1 0

Jug
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
Novalja 1 1 0 0 3:1 3
Imotski 1 1 0 0 2:1 3
Pomorac 1 0 1 0 2:2 1
Solin 1 0 1 0 2:2 1
GOSK 1 0 1 0 1:1 1
Segesta 1 0 1 0 1:1 1
Sibenik 1 0 1 0 0:0 1
Mosor 1 0 1 0 0:0 1
Uskok 1 0 0 1 1:2 0
Naftas 1 0 0 1 1:3 0
Hrvatski Drag. -----
Sesvete----

HajdukSplit August 25th, 2004 04:29

Just if anybody is interested here is where the clubs play:
Belisce: Belisce, west of Osijek and many of their youth and reserve players go on loan there.
Cibalia: Vinkovci
Dilj: Second team of Vinkovci, less amount of fans than the successful Cibalia
Koprivnica: Second team of Koprivnica, Slaven Belupo play in the first division.
Bjelovar: Bjelovar
Cakovec: I think this should be considered the first team in the city and Medjimurje who are in the second division represent the region rather than the city.
Slavonija: Pozega
Vukovar 91': Vukovar! :thmbup:
Metalac: Osijek
Graficar Vodovod: Osijek
Marsonia: Slavonski Brod
Valpovka: Valpovo
*A lot of derby matches!

Novalja: Novalja is a city on the island of Pag
Imotski: Imotski
Pomorac: Kostrena, small town in Istria
Solin Gradja: Solin, a suberb of Split
GOSK: Dubrovnik
Segesta: Sisak
Mosor: Zrnovica, a small town southeast of Split, most Hajduk youth players go to loan there.
Uskok: Klis, north of Split.
Naftas: Ivanic Grad, basically half way between Zagreb and Sisak.
Hrvatski Dragovoljac: Zagreb, third club of the city behind Dinamo and NK Zagreb.
Croatia Sesvete: Sesvete, east of Zagreb.

HajdukSplit August 25th, 2004 14:26

I found a great site for the people who want to follow the second league..here is the site
http://www.cro-football.tk/
not the best but still better than nothing and at least it is updated, they show tables, scores, goal scorers and attendances.

HajdukSplit August 29th, 2004 13:29

RESULTS KOLO 2
Sjever
Cakovec - Belisce 6-2! :eek: :eek:
Slavonija - Bjelovar 3-2
Koprivnica - Vukovar 91' 6-1! :eek:
Cibalia - Graficar 4-0
Marsonia - Dilj and Metalac - Valpovka will play today

Jug
Segesta - Mosor 3-3
Imotski - Sibenik 0-4
Sesvete - Uskok 3-0
Naftas - Hrvatski Dragovoljac 1-3 :happy:
GOSK - Pomorac 0-2
Solin - Novalja, huge derby match will be played today

HajdukSplit August 30th, 2004 13:23

Sunday Results:
Sjever
Metalac - Valpovka 6-0 :eekani:
Marsonia - Dilj 1-1
*whats up with all these high scores, three teams scored six and reading the reports from the Cibalia match, it should of been 15-0! :D Meanwhile Marsonia struggle, they didn't do well against Cibalia and they drew Dilj, one of the favorites for relegation to 3.HNL

Jug Dalmacija derby
Solin Gradja - Novalja 2-3

HajdukSplit August 30th, 2004 13:27

TABLE
Sjever
Koprivnica 6
Cibalia 6
Cakovec 4
Slavonija 4
Dilj 4
Metalac 3
Belisce 3
Bjelovar 1
Marsonia 1
Vukovar 91' 1
Graficar 0
Valpovka 0

Jug
Novalja 6
Sibenik 4
Pomorac 4
Croatia Sesvete 3
Hrvatski Dragovoljac 3
Imotski 3
Segesta 2
Mosor 2
Solin Gradja 1
GOSK 1
Naftas 0
Uskok 0

HajdukSplit September 2nd, 2004 14:09

Midweek action...
Sjever
Graficar - Marsonia 1-2
Vukovar 91' - Cibalia 2-4
Bjelovar - Koprivnica 3-1
Belisce - Slavonija 2-0
Valpovka - Cakovec 1-2
Dilj - Metalac 1-1

Jug
Pomorac - Segesta 1-0
Novalja - GOSK 3-0
Hrvatski Dragovoljac - Solin Gradja 4-0
Uskok - Naftas 3-2
Sibenik - Croatia Sesvete 1-0
Mosor - Imotski 2-1

TABLE
Sjever
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
Cibalia 3 3 0 0 9:2 9
Cakovec 3 2 1 0 11:6 7
Koprivnica 3 2 0 1 8:4 6
Belisce 3 2 0 1 7:8 6
Dilj 3 1 2 0 3:2 5
Metalac 3 1 1 1 9:4 4
Bjelovar 3 1 1 1 8:7 4
Marsonia 3 1 1 1 3:3 4
Slavonija 3 1 1 1 3:4 4
Vukovar 91' 3 0 1 2 3:10 1
Graficar 3 0 0 3 1:7 0
Valpovka 3 0 0 3 1:9 0

Jug
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
Novalja 3 3 0 0 9:3 9
Sibenik 3 2 1 0 5:0 7
Pomorac 3 2 1 0 5:2 7
H. Drag 2 2 0 0 7:0 6
Mosor 3 1 2 0 5:4 5
Sesvete 2 1 0 1 3:1 3
Uskok 3 1 0 2 4:7 3
Imotski 3 1 0 2 3:7 3
Segesta 3 0 2 1 4:5 2
Solin 3 0 1 2 4:9 1
GOSK 3 0 1 2 1:6 1
Naftas 3 0 0 3 4:9 0

HajdukSplit September 2nd, 2004 14:18

So after three match Cibalia have been dominating play, first two matches I read were amazing wins and again they crush Vukovar 91' and honestly I don't see any team catching up to them and Cibalia already have won the Sjever :D
In Jug, it will be a tight race, Hrvatski Dragovoljac are playing well and they still have one more game to play (Sesvete game was postponed after the death of Spajic) and they have signed Dragan Vukoja! Sibenik, Pomorac and even Mosor I believe can also take the top spot. Novalja, don't know much about them so I don't know how long they can stay on top.

HajdukSplit September 6th, 2004 03:25

Kolo 4
Svejer
Graficar - Vukovar 91' 1-1
Cibalia - Bjelovar 2-0
Koprivnica - Belisce 2-1
Marsonia - Metalac 3-0
Slavonija - Valpovka 1-2
Cakovec - Dilj 1-0
Jug
Pomorac - Novalja 0-3
GOSK - H. Dragovoljac 0-5
Solin - Uskok 2-1
Naftas - Sibenik 1-1
Croatia Sesvete - Mosor 1-0
Segesta - Imotski 3-1

HajdukSplit September 6th, 2004 22:42

OK now I am able to do the table because I got all the results. :happy: :devil:
Sjever
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
Cibalia 4 4 0 0 11:2 12
Cakovec 4 3 1 0 12:6 10
Koprivnica 4 3 0 1 10:5 9
Marsonia 4 2 1 1 6:3 7
Belisce 4 2 0 2 8:10 6
Dilj 4 1 2 1 3:3 5
Metalac 4 1 1 2 9:6 4
Bjelovar 4 1 1 2 8:9 4
Slavonija 4 1 1 2 4:5 4
Valpovka 4 1 0 3 3:10 3
Vukovar 91' 4 0 2 2 4:11 2
Graficar 4 0 1 3 2:8 1

Jug
Novalja 4 4 0 0 12:3 12
H. Drag 4 3 0 0 12:0 9
Sibenik 4 2 2 0 6:1 8
Pomorac 4 2 1 1 5:5 7
Sesvete 3 2 0 1 4:1 6
Segesta 4 1 2 1 7:6 5
Mosor 4 1 2 1 5:5 5
Solin 4 1 1 2 6:10 4
Uskok 4 1 0 3 5:9 3
Imotski 4 1 0 3 4:10 3
GOSK 4 0 1 3 1:11 1
Naftas 4 0 1 3 5:10 1

*Interesting fact about Novalja..they have 5 Brazilians on the team!! :eek:
Also looks like the Hajduk junior players (mostly loaned out to Uskok) are struggling.

Kodro September 7th, 2004 06:54

Too bad that GOSK isn´t doing little better, i was at Lapad stadium couple of times when i was young, like 14-15 years ago, and watched their home games. Back then, they were a decent team in second division west of the old ex-yu ligue... Were they ever in 1.HNL?

HajdukSplit September 7th, 2004 13:14

yeah they were one of the "original" teams. They played in the top flight from 1992-1994 (3 seasons) and since then they haven't been up.

HajdukSplit September 7th, 2004 15:53

top goalscorers

4- Mario Kuzmanovic (Cibalia) Robert Mesic (Segesta Sisak) Srdjan Lakic (Hrvatski Dragovoljac) Zeljko Domjanic (Cakovec) Hrvoje Bedekovic (Bjelovar)
3- Ante Moric (Novalja) Miro Matokovic (Belisce) Santino Debelec (Cakovec) Igor Bajtl (Koprivnica) Tihomir Nosek (Bjelovar)

HajdukSplit September 10th, 2004 19:44

Hrvatski Dragovoljac and Croatia Sesvete played their match which was postponed in the first weak. The match ended in a 1-1 draw.

zoki September 12th, 2004 17:04

Nice to see that there are people outside Croatia following our league. Just a few corrections, if you don't mind:
1. Kostrena is not in Istria, it's a little town east of Rijeka and, by the way, officially the richest province in the country.
2. GOSK is not one of the original members of the HNL in 1992, it was NK Dubrovnik which is another club.
Unfortunately domestic football is followed rather poorly on the Internet, hopefully it will get better.

HajdukSplit September 13th, 2004 19:32

Round five results: Cibalia lose their first match while two draws in a row for Dragovoljac are bad for their hopes of promotion :(
Sjever
Vukovar 91' - Marsonia 0-1
Bjelovar - Graficar 2-2
Belisce - Cibalia 3-0
Dilj - Slavonija 3-0
Valpovka - Koprivnica 1-0
Metalac - Cakovec 0-0

Jug
Sibenik - Solin Gradja 1-1
Mosor - Naftas 4-0
Novalja - Segesta 2-0
Hrvatski Dragovoljac - Pomorac 2-2
Uskok - GOSK 1-0
Imotski - Croatia Sesvete 1-0

HajdukSplit September 13th, 2004 19:37

Sjever
Cibalia 12
Cakovec 11
Marsonia 10
Koprivnica 9
Belisce 9
Dilj 8
Valpovka 6
Bjelovar 5
Metalac 5
Slavonija 4
Graficar 2
Vukovar 91' 2

Jug
Novalja 15
Hrvatski Drag 11
Sibenik 9
Mosor 8
Pomorac 8
Sesvete 7
Uskok 6
Imotski 6
Segesta 5
Solin 5

zoki September 14th, 2004 16:49

Novalja are looking very strong, they have 5 Brazilians in the team. But I would like to see Dragovoljac back in the top division!

HajdukSplit September 18th, 2004 19:15

yeah me too Zoki! :)
here are the results from today:
Sjever:
Graficar - Belisce 1-1
Cibalia - Valpovka 4-0
Slavonija - Metalac 3-1
Koprivnica - Dilj 1-0
Vukovar 91' - Bjelovar 3-1
Marsonia - Cakovec (tommorow)
*Vukovar are finally off the bottom with a huge win and Cibalia regain their form after their first loss with an easy win over Valpovka.

Jug:
Solin - Mosor 1-4
Naftas - Imotski 1-0
Segesta - Sesvete 2-0
GOSK - Sibenik 2-2
Pomorac - Uskok and Novalja - Hrvatski Dragovoljac (tommorow)
*If Sibenik want promotion they need to win these kind of matches..According to reports Segesta dominated and it should of been more than 2-0 and tommorow is a big match between Novalja and Dragovoljac.

HajdukSplit September 19th, 2004 18:34

3 Results from today..
Sjever:
Marsonia - Cakovec 4-1

Jug:
Pomorac - Uskok 2-1
Novalja - Hrvatski Dragovoljac 1-1
*ahh perfect chance for Dragovoljac to gain some ground but they were only able to get a draw in Novalja.

HajdukSplit September 20th, 2004 01:00

TABLE after Round 6:
Sjever
Team P W D L GF:GA GD PTS
1. Cibalia 6 5 0 1 15:5 +10 15
2. Marsonia 6 4 1 1 11:4 +7 13
3. Koprivnica 6 4 0 2 11:6 +5 12
4. Čakovec 6 3 2 1 13:10 +3 11
5. Belišće 6 3 1 2 12:11 +1 10
6. Dilj 6 2 2 2 6:4 +2 8
7. Slavonija 6 2 1 3 7:10 -3 7
8. Valpovka 6 2 0 4 4:14 -10 6
9. Metalac 6 1 2 3 10:10 0 5
10. Bjelovar 6 1 2 3 11:14 -3 5
11. Vukovar ’91 6 1 2 3 7:13 -6 5
12. Grafičar Vodovod 6 0 3 3 5:11 -6 3
*Basically it will be Cibalia, Marsonia, Koprivnica and Cakovec will be fighting for the top spot. What is happening with Vukovar and Bjelovar?? :(

Jug
Team P W D L GF:GA GD PTS
1. Novalja 6 5 1 0 15:4 +11 16
2. H. dragovoljac 6 3 3 0 16:5 +11 12
3. Mosor 6 3 2 1 13:6 +7 11
4. Pomorac 6 3 2 1 9:8 +1 11
5. Šibenik 6 2 4 0 9:4 +5 10
6. Segesta 6 2 2 2 9:8 +1 8
7. Croatia Sesvete 6 2 1 3 5:5 0 7
8. Uskok 6 2 0 4 7:11 -4 6
9. Imotski 6 2 0 4 5:11 -6 6
10. Solin 6 1 2 3 8:15 -7 5
11. Naftaš Ivanić 6 1 1 4 6:14 -8 4
12. GOŠK 6 0 2 4 3:14 -11 2
*Novalja and Hrvatski Dragovoljac are the early favorites, Mosor, Sibenik and Pomorac are outside chances while GOSK Dubrovnik..:scared:

HajdukSplit September 20th, 2004 01:14

Lets have a look at some players in the 2.HNL who were good/great players in the 1.HNL in past seasons.
Vedran Kukoc (Solin Gradja): played for Sibenik when they were in the top division and came close to signing with Hajduk this season.
Kaja Kalinic (Solin Gradja): In CM he played in the Dutch first division but not sure about real life :D
Igor Koretic (H. Dragovoljac): Was supposed to be a top prospect with Dinamo, well now he is one of the better players with Hrvatski Dragovoljac.
Dragan Vukoja (H. Dragovoljac): Played abroad many seasons and returned to the HNL in the winter break last season and played with Osijek.
Boris Leutar (Cibalia): Played with Dinamo Zagreb a while ago and moved to Cibalia, one of the few players to stay with the club when they were relegated.
Ronald Grnja (Graficar): Played many seasons with Osijek, now he comes off the bench regularly for Graficar.
Marin Lalic (Bjelovar): One of the top scorers in all of the HNL, played for Hrvatski Dragovoljac and Inter Zapresic in recent seasons but has yet to score in the second league.
Tihomir Nosek (Bjelovar): Top scorer at NK Zagreb and Cakovec when they were in the first divisionm now he is ranked third in scoring in the second league.

HajdukSplit September 20th, 2004 01:20

Non-Croatian players in the 2.HNL
Novalja: Ricardo Andrade (Brazil) Clenio (Brazil) Sergio De Oliviera (Brazil) Claudio Salazar (Brazil)
GOSK: Edin Mujkic (Bosnia) Nihad Mujkic (Bosnia) Adnan Kadric (Bosnia)
Cibalia: Mislav Saric (Australia)
Marsonia: Admir Alic (Bosnia)
Metalac: Chago Mathias (Cameroon)

Kodro September 22nd, 2004 07:52

Dubrovnik is a waterpolo city (current champions of Croatia if i´m not mistaken?) but still, GOSK should be higher on the table. This is an big disappointment, i believe :(

HajdukSplit September 25th, 2004 21:00

today's results:
Sjever:
Belisce - Vukovar 91' 4-0
Dilj - Cibalia 0-1
Cakovec - Slavonija 2-0
Bjelovar - Marsonia 3-1

Jug:
Croatia Sesvete - Naftas 0-4
Imotski - Solin 0-4
Mosor - GOSK 3-2
Sibenik - Pomorac 2-1

tommorow in Sjever: Metalac vs. Koprivnica and Valpovka vs. Graficar
Jug: Uskok vs. Novalja and H. Dragovoljac vs. Segesta Sisak

zoki September 26th, 2004 11:59

Now you can find results and tables on HRT teletext:
http://www.hrt.hr/teletext/index.htm
Just go to page 304!

dinamovac11 September 26th, 2004 12:39

HS, don't forget Vranjic who is still with Cibalia and is still the under 21 NT keeper.

Also, Jasmin Samardzic is with Pomorac and would have probably been a starter at Rijeka this season but had a disagreement with the management and left.

I have some recent line ups so will have a look for other familiar players..

HajdukSplit September 26th, 2004 13:42

thanks for the site zoki! there is also another good one with stats and tables but it isn't updated as fast, usually midweek.
http://www.cro-football.tk/

D11, Tomislav Vranjic has only played one match so far this season. Our backup for the U21's is Vidakovic and he is a regular for Marsonia.

HajdukSplit September 27th, 2004 01:26

Sjever
Valpovka - Graficar 1-1
Metalac - Koprivnica 0-2

Jug
Hrvatski Dragovoljac - Segesta 2-1
Uskok - Novalja 1-1

HajdukSplit September 27th, 2004 01:31

TABLE
Sjever
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
1. Cibalia 7 6 0 1 16:5 18
2. Koprivnica 7 5 0 2 13:6 15
3. Čakovec 7 4 2 1 15:10 14
4. Belišće 7 4 1 2 16:11 13
5. Marsonia 7 4 1 2 12:7 13
6. Dilj 7 2 2 3 6:5 8
7. Bjelovar 7 2 2 3 14:15 8
8. Slavonija 7 2 1 4 7:12 7
9. Valpovka 7 2 1 4 5:15 7
10. Metalac 7 1 2 4 10:12 5
11. Vukovar ’91 7 1 2 4 7:17 5
12. Grafičar Vodovod 7 0 4 3 6:12 4

Jug
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
1. Novalja 7 5 2 0 16:5 17
2. H. dragovoljac 7 4 3 0 18:6 15
3. Mosor 7 4 2 1 16:8 14
4. Šibenik 7 3 4 0 11:5 13
5. Pomorac 7 3 2 2 10:10 11
6. Segesta 7 2 2 3 10:10 8
7. Solin 7 2 2 3 12:15 8
8. Naftaš Ivanić 7 2 1 4 10:14 7
9. Uskok 7 2 1 4 8:12 7
10. Croatia Sesvete 7 2 1 4 5:9 7
11. Imotski 7 2 0 5 5:15 6
12. GOŠK 7 0 2 5 5:17 2

HajdukSplit September 28th, 2004 22:56

Cibalia -6 points??!! that would give them 12 points and they would go down to 6th in the league. They are clearly the best team in the league but they are punished for the transfer of Bartolovic a few seasons ago :eek:
This gives great chances for Koprivnica, Cakovec, Belisce and Marsonia. Note, I do not know if this is 100% true, maybe the other guys know.

HajdukSplit October 2nd, 2004 18:33

Sjever
Vukovar 91' - Valpovka 3-0
Cibalia - Metalac 1-0
Bjelovar - Belisce 2-0
Graficar - Dilj 1-0
tommorow: Koprivnica vs. Cakovec...Marsonia vs. Slavonija

Jug
GOSK - Imotski 2-2
Solin - Sesvete 4-3
Segesta - Naftas 6-2 :eek:
tommorw: Hrvatski Dragovoljac vs. Uskok...Pomorac vs. Mosor...Novalja vs. Sibenik


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