Macedonian Lower Leagues
 

Because my favorite team is in 2nd division :depress: i will open up this new thread and invest you on all the second division scores and standings.. so here we go:

The Teams

Pelister
Tikves
Mladost
Renova
Bregalnica D.
Bratstvo
Skopje
Turnovo
Makedonija GP
Shkendija A
Teteks
Vlazrimi

1 week
 

Here are the first matches they start this Saturday

1 kolo (07.08.2004)

Teteks-Skopje
Bregalnica-Vlazrimi
Mladost-Makedonija GP
Tikves-Turnovo
Pelister-Renova
Shkendija-Bratstvo

thank you for opening this thread Ambis! i make it sticky right now.

thanks
 

Napred Pelister !!!!!

i 've heard Pelister's story could end soon :rolleyes:... have you any news ?

Vtora Liga prvo kolo:

Bregalnica D 0
Vlazrimi 2

Teteks 3
Skopje 3

Mladost 0
Makedonija GP 2

Tikves 3
Turnovo 0

Pelister 2 :smileani:
Renova 1

Shkendija A 1
Bratstvo 0


Tabela:

Tikves 1 1 0 0 3 0 3
Makedonija GP 1 1 0 0 2 0 3
Vlazrimi 1 1 0 0 2 0 3
Shkendija A 1 1 0 0 1 0 3
Pelister 1 1 0 0 2 1 3

Scores:
Vlazrimi-Bratstvo 2:0
Renova-Shkendija 2:0
Turnovo-Pelister 0:0
Makedonija GP-Tikves 2:1
Skopje-Mladost 2:1
Bregalnica-Teteks 1:2


Table:
Vlazrimi 2 2 0 0 4 0 6
Makedonija GP 2 2 0 0 4 1 6
Skopje 2 1 1 0 5 4 4
Teteks 2 1 1 0 5 4 4
Pelister 2 1 1 0 2 1 4
Tikves 2 1 0 1 4 2 3

GO VLLAZRIMI, SHKENDIJA, RENOVA!!!! :star:

Taulant i advise you to remove the "USA(united states of albania)" of your location and profile... noone here preaches for a Great Macedonia so you're not allowed to preach for a Great Albania. i suggest you to read the forum rules in which you will find something like : "no politics !"

Taulant ballist! way dont you go to the shiptaria part of this furom if you cheer for Shiptaria NT?!!! this is Macedonia part.

Teteks 0
Vlazrimi 1

Mladost 1
Bregalnica (D) 0

Tikvesh 0
Skopje 1

Pelister 1
Makedonija Gj.P. 1

Shkendija (A) 1
Turnovo 1

Bratstvo 2
Renova 1 :thmbup: :howler: :cool:

Vlazrimi 3 3 0 0 5 0 9
Makedonija Gj.P. 3 2 1 0 5 2 7
Skopje 3 2 1 0 6 4 7
Pelister 3 1 2 0 3 2 5
Teteks 3 1 1 1 5 5 4
Shkendija (A) 3 1 1 1 2 3 4
Tikvesh 3 1 0 2 4 3 3
Renova 3 1 0 2 4 4 3
Mladost 3 1 0 2 2 4 3
Bratstvo 3 1 0 2 2 4 3
Turnovo 3 0 2 1 1 4 2
Bregalnica (D) 3 0 0 3 1 5 0

The presedent of the macedonien FA wos elected withe help from the Shiptars(albaniens) and to become presedent he gett help from the albaniens clubb and he promise them 5 clubbs in the Macedonien first liga! this can only happend in Macedonia! way is it not happen in Switzerland! this is politics and can you telle my wer in the world the politicks rule how the liga will look! the have to make 20 procent of the liga otherwise they are discriminate :tongue: :tongue: exact like the rest off the politic situation in macedonia! if they are 20 procent they have to tolk albanien and macedonien! way don latvia tolk russian wen they are 50 procent of the land?? lett the talent decide who will play in the first liga and not wot 3 peaple say! this is starting to be funny wen they tolk about the 20 procent rule in soccer to! are you dogs or wot :thmbup: If you are better then 12 shiptar tim can play but we are mutch more talented and the NT results show that! Macedonia-Albania 5-1 Macedonia-Albania 1-0 and last yer Macedonia-Albania 3-1 :thmbup: :thmbup: :thmbup:

I'm afraid your right cause Vlazrimi won again today and they were crap last year now this year they are great hmmmmm smells like mestena rabota to me...

I can't do nothing else but laugh at some of you. What's wrong with a club succeeding. Just because they're albanian it doesn't mean that they're getting help in winning the games. It's sports people and may the best prevail. You macedonians try to discredit albanians at any given oppurtunity. So what if they have 5 teams in the first league next season. Many of the teams have macedonian players as well. Are you guys so racist, jealous and hateful? And why are only the comments of an albanian attacked here by the moderator? I've seen worse from some of you macedonian ultras. Chill out and support your teams, but don't be idiots.

On a more on-topic note. Can someone list the cities from which each team originates. I'm also interested in the first league teams about this. I would appreciate your help.

Ok, Benny, I will:

Teteks - Tetovo
Pelister - Bitola
Vlazrimi - Kicevo
Bratstvo - Resen
Kumanovo - Kumanovo
Skopje - Skopje
Tikves - Kavadarci
Bregalnica - Delcevo
Makedonija Gjorce Petrov - Skopje
Turnovo - Turnovo (not a city, a village)
Skendija - Aracinovo (not a city, a village)
Renova - I have no idea :confused:

Its not because they are Albanian team and i have a problem with them getting in the first divison its the point of how the Albanian teams are getting help from the political situation in the country and they must have 5 teams in the 1 st divison or they will start a war.First it was Bashkimi then Shkendija and now its Vlazrimi im sick of this crap just because they are 20% of the population it doesnt mean they have to be 20% in everything in the country.By the way Benny you dont understand the situation in our country so i wont even try to explain cause most of you western block heads just believe the garbage propaganda of CNN and BBC.

Plain and simple because this is a Macedonian Soccer thread he has his own Albania soccer thread he can go talk shit over there.

Renova - Dzepcishte (also a village :rolleyes: )

Thanx for the listing of the home cities of each team guys. Good luck to each of your teams

Results from the 2 liga today.

Mladost 0
Vlazrimi 2 :frustrat:

Tikvesh 2
Teteks 1 :)

Pelister 1
Bregalnica (D) 0 :)

Shkendija (A) 2
Skopje 2 :)

Bratstvo 0
Makedonija Gj.P. 0 :) :) :)

Renova 3
Turnovo 0 :skull:

Don't kill yourself just because albanian teams are winning LOL. What a character.

Its no problems, Its god that at least 1 albanien team will go to the first liga wen Sloga and skendija will be eliminate from the first liga. bay the way, sloga is not a albanien team, 7-8 macedoniens have playd in the first team but now stankovski,jovanovski and nikolovski will leave the clubb so i think they will go to 2 liga. I think they will lose againts rabotnicki with 5-0 today in the first liga.

MANEVSKI MU DONESE POBEDA NA PELISTER :happy:
PELISTER-BREGALNICA (D) 1:0 (0:0)


Pettoto kolo mu donese na Pelister pobeda i tri novi bodovi so koi "Pelisterci" se zacvrstija vo gorniot del na tabelata so 8 osvoeni bodovi. Tie ja imaa igrata vo tekot na celoto prvo poluvreme no ne mo`ea da postignat gol i so toa da go probijat "bunkerot" na Bregalnica. So takva igra se prodolzi i vo vtoroto poluvreme, a "Pelisterci" go otkrija rezultatot vo 79 minuta koga mladiot Borce Manevski go postigna svojot vtor gol ovaa sezona koj na Pelister mu donese tri boda.

-Najva`no e deka gi osvoivme bodovite, iako se #nama~ivme# da postigneme gol. Nekolkute {ansi koi gi imavme vo tekot na prvoto poluvreme ne gi iskoristivme i so toa da go otkrieme rezultatot mnogu porano. Vakvata lo{a realizacija se dol`i samo na nemaweto iskustvo kaj pomladite i sekako retkite treninzi koi gi imaat poiskusnite. Trenirame malku vo tekot na nedelata i so tolku treninzi ne mo`e da se odr`uva natprevaruva~ka forma, veli trenerot na Pelister Tome Dimitrovski.

Koga poiskusnite "zabusavaat" so treninzite ova e prilika mladite da se dokazat i poleka, no sigurno da im go zazemat mestoto. Za perspekti-vata na mladite Dimitrovski veli:

Mene posebno me raduva toa sto mladite poleka no sigurno se izgraduvaat kako fudbaleri i kako zreli licnosti koi mo`at da ponesat i pogolem tovar, odnosno so odli~en poteg da go recat natprevarot, a taka be{e i vo sabotata koga Bor~e Manevski vo edna mesanica postigna re{ava~ki gol. Bez osnovni uslovi, strija, topla voda, oprema da se ocekuva kojznae kakov napredok e preambiciozno, no sekako i ova sto go imame e dobro.

:proud:

Ambis! wot has happen with your team? it wos one of Macedonias best clubbs in the yers 1994 to 1996 and have one yugoslav cup final in ther history and playd 2 times in the yugoslav first liga. Now thats nothing to compare with Vardar who has 1 liga titel and ones nummber 3 and ones nummber 4 in yugoslavia and with 39 season in yugoslavia first liga, and vardar have also 1 yugoslav cup title and one more final and 2 semifinales in the history of yugoslavia. Now Pelister can not compare with Vardar but in Macedonien standards is realy tedious to see wot have happen to Pelister! you play in the 2 liga and wot i can se of the pic your players look like a bunch of not to serious players who have fun at the spare time :happy: :excited: :happy:

now i understand why Pelister lost againts a divission 4 clubb (village region liga) in this yers Macedonien cup :D

Well my friend thats what happens when you have a PEDERSKA UPRAVA and they steal money, but i wouldnt get very happy if i were you cause Vardar are not that great this year either after that 5-0 beating you took from Shalke its been all downhill..

I would not say that everything is downhill Ambis! after last yers win against CSKA Maskva(CL) we won against a Cyprus team and the Belgien team AA Gent this yers in intertoto cup and that is god. In the liga we are in 2 place and if we beat Rabotnicki in the cup on Wednesday we will win the cup so its not to mutch downhill :smileani: at least auer players dont look like a bunch of amateur who have fun in the spare time :happy:

Results of the 2 liga in Macedonia today!

Vlazrimi 1
Turnovo 0

Makedonija Gj.P. 2
Renova 2

Skopje 1
Bratstvo 0

Bregalnica (D) 2
Shkendija (A) 0

Teteks 2
Pelister 1
keep up the god work Pelister and you will soon bee in the 3 liga :excited: :excited: :excited:

Mladost 2
Tikvesh 0

**** OFF YOUR VARDAR MAY GET TO THE UEFA CUP BUT WILL AGAIN GET A PETARDA LIKE THEY DID AGAINST ROMA AND SHALKE 5-0 5-0...

How can you say this kind of shit? Every real football fan in Macedonia is disgussed from the things that happen to Pelister. :mad: :mad: :mad:

I now that Pelister shuold bee in First liga and the 2 biggest city in Macedonia deserve to bee in the first liga and they have a great stadium too, its sad for macedonien clubb soccer that peaple of Bitola havent act better in this affair and let Pelsiter Bitola go under as a soccer club.The games between Pelister-Vardar Vardar-Pelister wos like the games Hajduk-Zagreb, Partizan-Zvezda and of course Vardar and skopje is missing Pelister its like an Hate-Love thing. Bitola "uprava" should be ashamed that this bigg name in macedonien sport is on a brink to play in the 3 liga.

Комисија за молби и жалби: Влазрими-Братство, службено 0-3

Комсијата за молби и жалби ја разгледа и позитивно ја оцени жалбата на ФК Братство за настапот на фудбалерот Зоран Попанев на средбата Братство-Влазрими во рамките на 2.коло иако истиот бил на отслужување на воениот рок. За ова е доставена и потврда од Министерството за Одбрана на Р. Македонија со што победата му се доделува на ФК Братство со службен резултат од 3-0. Да потсетиме средбата на зелениот терен заврши со победа на ФК Влазрими со 2-0.

haha :excited:

What a shame. Some will go to any measures to take a win from the best team just because of xenophobia.

Yeeeeeees :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: Ambis you now that my pedigree is from Resen,Bratstvo is my 2 team and i'm soooooooo happy now.

FFM destroyed Bratstvo last yer and is maybe theirs way to pay back. It's a regular decision from FFM and rule is a rule. Vlazrimi-Bratstvo 0-3 :excited: :excited: :excited: My cousin go to every Bratstvo game and he can not wait for the Vlazrimi homegame. :ass: :ass: :ass: Vlazrimi :ass: :ass: :ass:

Benny tts nice to see that you can read Cyrilic :)

By the way koj se ovje FK Skopje od Железарница ??? i proslata godina a i ova se dosta dobri Pelister dva pati go tepaja.

Ambis, hehe, ofcourse I can read it man. I heard that the same player played in all the matches for Vellazerimi and that all the other teams that got beat have petitioned to the commission for the same thing. Is this true, and is it possible that they will take all the wins away from Vellazerimi. But I also heard that Vellazerimi would appeal the decision, because that player is being paid by the Army and should be there only up to 3:00 pm and afterwards he's free to practice etc. I don't know the rules pertaining to this but I guess they will try to do anything to not let Vellazerimi be the league champions. I mean come on, it's not like they won those games with fraud or whatever. But hey what can you do. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

Ambis, perhaps now your team Pelister has a chance to advance. It looks like the commission is missing Pelister from the first league.

Ambis! it looks like our Albanien friend are born in Macedonia!! at least his parents :D Not only that he understand cyrilic but Macedonien cyrilic too ;) the lier told that his grandfather wos from balkan and the rest wos born in holland :D or can it bee that he have big passion for the Macedonien language that he study it in private time :dielaugh: for me its fairly obvious that he presumably live in Macedonia. Its also fairly obvious that he have multiple accounts wich is against the rules off this forum. He use one for the Macedonien Part and the others for the rest!!!! no way that an Albanien will only post on the Macedonien part and never on the Albanien or the rast parts in extratime as well. He use this account Benny for provake here and i will tell xtratime that he have multiple accounts and so they can look for the same IP-adress.

:D :D :D

I would not count on it its been 3 years now and i still dont see a first class team that can play in 1st division if we are going to be the Bregalnica Delcevo of last year and lose to every team when we get in 1st division then i would rather not get in until we have a good team that can be at least in the middle pack

Today's results, round 7 (25/09/2004):


Tikvesh 0 Now, you've gone and made Vellazerimi mad hehe.
Vellazerimi 4

Pelister 2
Mladost 0

Shkendija (H) 1
Teteks 2

Bratstvo 0
Bregalnica (D) 0

Renova 2 Oh yeah, Skopje still can't catch Vellazerimi, Perhaps Renova will. ;)
Skopje 0

Turnovo 2
Makedonija Gj.P. 1


Standings:

team play. win tie lost + - points
Vlazrimi 7 6 0 1 12 4 18
Skopje 7 4 2 1 12 9 14
Makedonija Gj.P. 7 3 3 1 11 7 12
Teteks 7 3 2 2 10 9 11
Pelister 7 3 2 2 8 7 11
Renova 7 3 1 3 12 8 10
Bratstvo 7 2 2 3 5 7 8
Turnovo 7 2 2 3 7 9 8
Bregalnica (D) 7 2 1 4 5 7 7
Mladost 7 2 1 4 4 8 7
Tikvesh 7 2 0 5 7 12 6
Shkendija (A) 7 1 2 4 6 12 5

Tikvesh 0
Vlazrimi 4

Pelister 2
Mladost 0

Shkendija (A) 1
Teteks 2

Bratstvo 0
Bregalnica (D) 0

Renova 2
Skopje 0

Turnovo 2
Makedonija Gj.P. 1

Tikvesh-Vazrimi 0-4,strange :rolleyes: ! Tikvesh won the cup game 1-0 this Wednesday and now 0-4? maybe it was like give us the cup game and we give you the liga game :thmbup: It look like Vlazrime is on it's way to Prva liga, lets hope that Sloga and Skendija will leave first league.